Tyler Dibling shows glimpses of quality against Burnley

Forest need points and I believe that Forest have got a much better team than where they currently sit in the table.

First, we will need to match them right the way across the middle of the park, and I'm not sure Dibling is up to speed defensively. We simply can't afford to be easy to play against on Tuesday night because I expect Forest will be very aggressive.

I know we want more and we want to see us take the game to the opposition but, looking at us yesterday, against one of the weaker teams in the Premier League, then I'm not sure we have currently got the players to do this.

Definitely he should be preferred to start ahead of McNeil.
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McNeil is not the future of Everton Football Club, Dibling should be, we have invested in him to as such.

I don't want to see Alcaraz anywhere near the team, he is awful.

Dibling could be the future at the present time he still a £42M learner and I'd prefer McNeil to start on match days.

The players in question have been mentioned here but others are only average.

McNeil and Mykolenko are two who have been lolling along lately and certainly Alcaraz has made very little contribution of late when needed.

We don't have exceptional players at left- or right-back but we have very little else making a claim at the moment.

Getting a point at awful Burnley was nothing to write home about but their keeper made some excellent stops late on and the post saved us at the end.

Having dispatched Forest recently at Hill Dickinson Stadium, we can expect that they will be out for revenge, and they played quite well against Man City yesterday.

We will still be missing some strength and need to improve greatly from the get-go to get anything from Tuesday's game.

I cannot understand why all the home teams from the weekend get the benefit of another home game in midweek and also that Liverpool get an extra day's rest before they play Leeds!!!

Ndiaye out: straight swop.
Dewsbury-Hall out: Ndiaye into the centre, Tyler on the right.
Grealish out: Ndiaye to the left, again Tyler on the right.

He was bought to be a future starter, McNeil and Alcaraz are, and will only ever be, squad players.

Looked poised and confident, not at all shy or out of place.

A loan for Ben Chilwell as well. Back fit, and would upgrade our left-back spot.

I would still start with McNeil, more because its an away game and we will likely be under the cosh from the off. I'm pretty sure Moyes will also pick McNeil.

Betting- Forest 11/10 Everton 11/4 Draw 9/4 approx. odds

I'd definitely take a point right now, because I think this is going to be a really difficult game.

Chilwell is at Strasbourg. Signed in September and settled in.

I'm a world leading pessimist so don't take any notice of me folks.

The biggest concern at times was how we vacated the middle of the pitch, and with Forest having a better team, and a few more clinical players than Burnley, then I’m sure they will make us pay if this isn’t tightened up on Tuesday.

Tony, agreed, we left some huge holes that Burnley walked through. I assume Davey has had a bit to say about it. And agreed also on our speed. That's one area where we haven't improved at all. None of our new players is particularly pacey.

I hadn't noticed him at Southampton.

Lets face it in todays world of third world debt transfer fees, £40m isn't and doesnt get you a Cruyff. Add a 1 in front of that 4 and maybe we should rightly expect a bit of magic.

In a pathetically weak squad, still full of relegation regulars, it isn't right for the ludicrous weight of expectation to be pinned on him, as some kind of footballing genius who can solve the clubs player crises and goal dearth.

Apart from loaning the kid out, which due to lack of numbers, we cant do, he is going to have to serve his apprenticeship in front of us highly demanding and critical supporters, with the selective alloted minutes Moyes allows.

Good luck Kid

I think a number of people believe he is quite a good defender.

Dibling did okay but nothing more.

Mykolenko is an excellent defender but not good going forward, especially with McNeil in front of him.

I have had enough of Beto and Barry and would like to see Alcaraz tried as a false 9 and midfield beefed up. Charly always has an eye for goal and is a much better passer of the ball than Beto or Barry.

We have a run of winnable games after Forest and can only hope for Grealish and KDH to return asap and I hate to say it but an early exit for Senegal. That could be the difference between a bottom half or 8th place finish.

I couldn't agree more on Mykolenko and I'm really hoping he doesn't get a new contract.

I hear people say he plays Salah well; he doesn't. Salah's record against him and us is excellent.

The simple eye test tells you everything you need to know about him, we regularly get murdered on his side, he can't stop crosses, is slow with no positional sense, isn't aggressive, is useless in the air, and his forward play is virtually non-existent.

But he doesn't know how to support Beto or Barry.

Similarly, it's not Nathan Patterson's fault that we paid what we did for someone who was worth a punt for half what we paid, but was never Premier League-ready. (Injuries didn't help.)

I'm still fine with paying big money for Dibling. He'll be worth it in a couple years time, though we have to figure out a way to get him on the pitch when Grealish, Ndiaye and Dewsbury-Hall are all healthy. If Jack comes back next season, it's an even bigger problem. Dibling needs to play.

The Barry fee is the one that really bothers me. On the small chance he comes good, it still didn't make sense to buy a striker over a right- or left-back. It should've been someone like Evan Ferguson on loan or even Vardy for a season once we couldn't get Delap.

They obviously thought Barry could replicate the 11 goals from last season and bed in more quickly than a young and unproven forward from a lesser league or the Championship but, either way, it neglected our biggest areas of need.

We desperately, desperately, need some sort of right-back next month. Someone who can get us through the season whose name is not Jake. We need Jake available for central defence and Garner for the middle.

It's fucking stunning that this TFG recruitment team did not get us a right-back over the summer. I don't give a shit what this ventriloquist dummy Kinnear says about what we should expect. His is the first defence of a weak window.

Do your job, lad, and get us a right-back with the help of those two new... erm, ace recruiters who came on board after -- after -- the last window closed.

Give Barry shit by all means but he plays in a team that create nothing -- at least he is available. Plus, after watching Beto on Saturday, I hope that is the last time I see him in a blue shirt, he was an embarrassment.

And I also feel the same about McNeil, he.was absolutely dogshit on Saturday, as he has been every time he's played this season.

TFG and their ace recruitment team have put us in a position where Afcon and injuries that they knew were coming have made McNeil -- who is shite -- an option for Moyes.

Barry might come good but, as it stands, it looks like he'll be moved on at a loss. Beto isn't good enough, that's clear, and will be moved on at a loss.

Dibling? I'm worried we could have a Daniel James type player on our hands. We'll get something back though.

This is the answer to that question, that I posted on the Burnley thread:-

“My answer is move Grealish into the centre, play Ndiaye on the left and Dibling on the right, and Dewsbury-Hall back into his favoured position as a central midfielder. I think Grealish needs to be given more responsibility. Alcaraz can replace him if, as I suspect will happen, he runs out of steam after 60 minutes.”

And while it's clear that Gana is aging, we will still have a tough time replacing how well he snuffs out attacks. Plus it's not clear it's Garner's best position, and right now he's one of our best players.

I'm fine with your plan, the problem being that Moyes clearly isn't.

Dibling has done nothing to suggest that 4 of our best players should sacrifice their position just to fit him into the side. He had an average game, against one of the worst sides in the Premier League.

I've absolutely no idea why some Evertonians have a thing about trying to get average players like Barry and Dibling into the side. Ndiaye is far and away our best player this season, and some people want to make him play on his opposite side where he can't cut in? I'm honestly baffled.

In fact, many of the strikers we coveted in the summer -- or watched enviously as others signed for huge money -- have been busts.

$168m Isak, $99m Sesko, $60m Wissa, $40m Delap and $34m Kalimuendo have scored 6 league goals among them. That's $400 million worth of strikers producing on essentially the same pace as Barry and Beto.

Of the big money striker transfers only Woltemade, Ekitike and Gyokeres have worked out.

My point is that splashing the cash on a striker brings no guarantees. You never know what you're gonna get. I think just about all of us would have preferred to see the club snap up Delap or Ferguson rather than Barry. But in retrospect we wouldn't have done one bit better.

On reflection, Everton did carve out a few good chances and even Alcaraz had a half-decent overhead kick but that natural finisher is still needed and I would take Toney for at least one season if the terms are right.

As for favourite positions I think Dewsbury-Hall has said is favourite position is as a box to box midfielder. Ndiaye played all last season on the left and was moved to the right to accomodate Grealish on the left.

I like Jake O’Brien but he is a centre half and at this stage Garner offers more than him as a right back.

Jonathan # 36 - I take your point about Gana but I do think Moyes is improving Iroegbunam.

Maybe no choice, but Alcaraz at his best has been bang average and in his last games has been awful.

Funny that one of the stats gang did not add that both Delap and Ferguson have played significantly less minutes than Coco and Jellybean and that Ferguson has also scored twice in the Europa League.