Season 2012-13
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Everton 8 - 0 Southampton
Hi everyone on Toffeeweb, first time poster here. I desperately need your help as Saturday's match against Southampton has brought back memories of my very first Everton match which was against Southampton all those years ago.
The thing is I now remember very little about the actual match itself. The score I could never forget as it was 8-0, 5-0 at half time and the pitch was covered in snow and so an orange ball was used.
I have a memory of Alan Ball picking up the ball deep in his own half running the lenght of the pitch and scoring a fantastic individual goal, made all the more amazing by the fact that it looked like he had no feet due to snow on the ground and his all white boots.
As I have said it was a long time ago (1972 or 73) and I`m not 100% sure about the Alan Ball goal.
Since then I have never heard a mention about the game, so I'm asking fellow Toffeewebbers to share their memories of the game as it must be one of our biggest victories and best games.
I also think based on what I`ve seen so far that we could get near that scoreline against some team this season.
Incidentally the Southampton keeper (Jim somebody or other) went on to concede 5 the next match at home against Man Utd and then 7 against Leeds the next match which is 20 goals in three matches — must be some sort of record.
Neil Davies, Posted 24/09/2012 at 12:05:33
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636 Posted 24/09/2012 at 13:53:30
640 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:03:18
It was played in a snowstorm all the game and hard to see the Park End most of the time - we only knew what was happening down there `cos of the cheers and the illuminated scoreboard
When we got into the Winslow and took our coats off we looked like woad-painted ancient Britons - so wet our coats had soaked though our lucky '66 Cup Winners shirts and dyed us all blue
Happy days
643 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:09:43
644 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:19:44
645 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:11:58
The house was in a suburb of East Manchester and I remember going to school carrying my books in an Everton "adidas" bag. In fact, when I was old enough to go to grammar school I used to get the bus across town to Salford. Not that wearing a grammar school uniform and carrying an Everton bag would make you a target or anything. I think my Dad must have been trying to toughen me up!
It's not always easy being an Evertonian (as if you didn't already know)
646 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:22:21
647 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:27:44
648 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:28:39
651 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:30:23
sorry - made me smile
I was at Southampton in Autumn 68 (actually sitting next to Mrs J Gabriel, whose husband was adorned with blue scarfs on the pitch before kick-off by the travelling fans) and we were losing 1 - 0 or 2-1 (I think) at half-time
I was told by a mate who was at Anfield that a big roar went up there when the half-time score was known
Not so big at the end though, Southampton 2 Everton 5
652 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:41:11
653 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:43:26
655 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:50:20
After the match, walked with my (late) father back to my nan's in Tuebrook (Meade Rd) and had egg and chips, followed by a Topic and a big beaker of Alpine lemmo (this was my post-match routine from the age of about 7 until the discovery of the 'brown bitter' and The 'Hermie' in about 1976)
Days (back then) simply didn't get any better.
Actually, I'll leave it at that before I turn into Billy Butler and give it the full "Yeah we had lice, Rickets and TB but we were happier weren't we Wal"
656 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:09:11
Was in the Winston pub (next road to my flat on Silverdale Road, 100 yards from the old Dell stadium - yes, a dump!) on the Sunday evening wearing my Everton scarf when this old Scots guy starts asking me about the match. He turned out to be be Jimmy Gabriel's dad, top guy, we got pissed together, with him telling me that his son really missed being back at Everton. Both true blues
658 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:23:07
659 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:23:14
663 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:29:35
664 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:29:33
Not a bad first game to go to.
668 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:28:42
669 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:47:57
The Southampton fans were class as well, singing various comedy songs, in particular referencing their 6-3 defeat of Man United a couple of weeks earlier.
671 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:53:56
672 Posted 24/09/2012 at 16:03:35
674 Posted 24/09/2012 at 16:03:51
The weather was that bad me dad decided we wouldn't go. I have never let him forget it since.
676 Posted 24/09/2012 at 16:05:46
679 Posted 24/09/2012 at 16:14:05
I'm starting to feel sorry for our opponents already.
FEAR THE MIGHTY BLUES.
694 Posted 24/09/2012 at 16:37:35
698 Posted 24/09/2012 at 16:46:03
702 Posted 24/09/2012 at 17:31:50
There's an Argentine boxer called Matthysse (possibly a welterweight) but don't know much about him.
705 Posted 24/09/2012 at 17:46:11
Alan Whittle – what a player he should have become for us!
John McLaughlin – who on earth ever thought he was a top class full back?
Back to Bally: it makes me smile when fans say Arteta is the best midfielder ever in an Everton shirt... Alan was in a class of his own and Silva, Gerrard, Scholes etc should never be mentioned in the same breath.
RIP Alan!
706 Posted 24/09/2012 at 18:06:15
711 Posted 24/09/2012 at 18:46:37
Before the game.
Curry and chips from here...
http://statics.192.com/estreet/original/large/1047/10477771.jpg
Bet in here...
http://statics.192.com/estreet/original/large/1047/10477971.jpg
Pint in here...
http://statics.192.com/estreet/original/large/1047/10477755.jpg
Enjoy.
714 Posted 24/09/2012 at 19:03:51
Anyway, you see his name on upcoming fights, check him out. Fun to watch.
721 Posted 24/09/2012 at 18:58:00
At the moment following Tony 'Bomber' Bellew (him being a blue and stuff).
VERY good wins for Burns over Mitchell at the weekend and for Barry McGuigan's young fighter (Carl Frampton) over former 2 time champ (Canadian) Molitor.
I usually check in with boxrec.com once a day (good forum - the TW of boxing).
723 Posted 24/09/2012 at 19:37:47
727 Posted 24/09/2012 at 19:32:20
The magazine cost 7p(old money)
731 Posted 24/09/2012 at 19:57:16
Everton: Southall (46 Gerrard), Barrett, Hinchcliffe, Unsworth, Watson, Stuart, Speed, Barmby, Kanchelskis, Parkinson, Grant.
Scorers: Stuart 12, Kanchelskis 22,35, Speed 30,32,72, Barmby 57
I remember it well as I missed it all as I moved house that day.
733 Posted 24/09/2012 at 19:51:19
Stats show it was the highbpoint of a season in which we came 15th and only 2 years after winning the League we were already sinking to the epths of buying of Belfitt, Harper and Bernie the Bolt!
Luckily for me, I wasn't quite aware of Everton at the time, my first recollections are late 1973 and by then we were a pretty good team and should have won the League again in 1975 and could have done in 1978 with a decent defence.
735 Posted 24/09/2012 at 20:08:43
4-6-0, years before Barca? Joe Royle ahead of his time.....
749 Posted 24/09/2012 at 20:42:47
Remember that week well.....first visit home the week before, someone had got me a derby ticket. I think David Johnson scored in the Street end with a header.
Lad I was in digs with was a real Saints fan ( but a gold plated gobshite ). He went to the game and I didn't bother. We all gave him loads when he got back that night pissed wet through and his team hammered. It left me with an uneasy feeling though....at least he went to see his team that day, he'd made the effort. Like I said he got on my tits but he was a proper fan.
Wierd time....the transition from the footballing heights of 1968 - 69 and the glory of 1969-70 to the disintegration throughout the 1970's. Guess we all saw the writing on the wall that Xmas period end of 1971 with the departure of Bally. This continued with the swapping of Johnson for Belfitt. Unhappy times
755 Posted 24/09/2012 at 21:24:57
I don't remember there being snow on the pitch though. It was a great memory better than the one of us losing to an, I think already relegated So'ton, a few years later 0-3 at home last game of the season.
763 Posted 24/09/2012 at 22:14:27
I remember telling my dad that I would never forgive Harry Catterick for selling him. Of all the players I have seen at Goodison since my first game in 1959, he is THE epitome of an Everton player AND he loved us too. What a player in a superlative team that had skill, bite, desire, energy and characters.
778 Posted 24/09/2012 at 23:53:46
Took possession from a dodgy back pass, around the flying pig, and knocked it in. Thank you very much Alan. Could you just imagine the sort of wages he could command today...
803 Posted 25/09/2012 at 07:32:13
A word about Southampton - the following week they lost 2-5 at home to Man United. And it was around March time that they lost 0-7 away at Leeds United. The Elland Road game was on MoTD and I remember that Giles and Bremner started playing their back heels and other party pieces - much to the delight of the BBC commentator Barry Davies. As a 14 year old then I felt that it was not really good to make fun of your oppoonents like that. I can't recall Everton doing that to Southampton and to their credit I don't remember Southampton resorting to trying to kick us and that was when they had people like John McGrath!!! I reckon Southamptom must have conceded 90+ goals that season - but in spite of some heavy defeats I don't think their manager faced any threat of the sack.Didn't big Sam get the sack at Blackburn cos of that 7-1 defeat at Man United ?
807 Posted 25/09/2012 at 07:41:36
We were all going on to little wadda's ( he was 6ft 7inches and called little coz his 2 brothers were even bigger than him) 21st after the game via an hour or 2 in the Fountains Abbey for chip sarnies and footie echos.The landlady had a standing order every week ( one week for the Blues and next week for the reds from St Ambrose ) to butter 2 loaves of bread, 4 loaves on Derby Days.
A number of us ( most ) had bought a bottle of spirits to take to the do and when Ball scored his wonder goal and our 5th before half time, well celebrations had to be in order didn't they.
One of the Sunday papers had the Headline ' Humbled Hero ' refering to Johnsons 1st Hatrick being Trumped by Royles 4.
Considering the state we must've been in by the time we got to the actual party it's a wonder I remember anything ( ah the resiliance of youth ).
As to Johnson and Whittle they were moved out pretty sharpish ( with a.n. other ) when the Holly Lodge School Girls scandal broke ( some people have all the luck, playing for the Blues and shaggin Skoolies )
808 Posted 25/09/2012 at 08:25:53
811 Posted 25/09/2012 at 08:38:38
Maybe I played against you in a Speke RC schools local derby? If so, you'll probably remember me: I was the 10/11 year old inside forward who dribbled to no real effect and spent a disproportionate amount of the game pulling up his socks.
814 Posted 25/09/2012 at 09:02:14
So that was you eh, we still laugh about that game even now,,,,nah not guilty, my earlier years were in Garston.
Though Sunday night after Mass St Ambrose rocked, well the upstairs room did any way, down stairs was for the Arl arses with alf on the organ and Loggsie on the drums. Guinness bitter ( 15p ) with large sherry chasers ( 12.5p / half a crown )
816 Posted 25/09/2012 at 09:21:44
820 Posted 25/09/2012 at 09:37:36
821 Posted 25/09/2012 at 09:41:44
Father Monty christened me in 1971 so I am maybe a few years behind you too
885 Posted 25/09/2012 at 13:21:44
For me the 25-yard screamer against Newcastle in 1968(?) was better.
893 Posted 25/09/2012 at 13:48:16
Never forget that one, but I have to say having been at the Swansea game we had more chances on Saturday than we had that day in 1971! The weather was better too! I also have to say that 41 years later, I am struggling to recall a better all round performance than I saw on Saturday.
905 Posted 25/09/2012 at 14:34:17
The 1968 game saw him get an early bath. That game some hair gel company was giving out free samples and the pitch was inundated with them thrown by angry fans.
God how I loved that goal he scored against the Reds in that cup game in 1967. Happy days!
916 Posted 25/09/2012 at 15:04:56
925 Posted 25/09/2012 at 15:48:12
941 Posted 25/09/2012 at 17:01:23
Small world indeed, my other half was born in 63 and grew up and lived in Lovell Rd until she moved out around 85. Given her Irish Catholic mother she was a regular in St Chrisies, she even worked behind the bar in the club for a few years !!
948 Posted 25/09/2012 at 17:14:35
Funny story: when it was time to get "confirmed" (don't get me started on the RC church), I was asked what name I wanted. It had to be the name of a saint. I said "Christopher" but was told that officially there was no such Catholic saint. I pointed out - quite politely, as I was always a bit cheeky and wanted to avoid getting the ruler on my hand - that this very conversation was in fact taking place in St Christophers school. I was informed that the church had since decided that St Christopher was a bit of a myth. A bit rich, don't you think? I mean, it's all a bit of a myth, surely? Also, why didn't they change the name of the school and church and stop selling all those medallions depicting St Chrissie carrying Baby J across the river? Mad.
Anyway, Christopher was out the window, so I had to have a rethink. Man City were on the up at that time (late 60s), with a young Malcolm Allison backing up Joe Mercer and seeming a million times cooler than the usual manager type. So, ridiculously, I plumped for Malcolm as my confirmation name! However, I was told that HE wasn't a saint either. Thank the lord for that, it would have been a terrible blunder! Third time lucky, I opted for Stephen and was told that was OK - as long as I didn't spell it "Steven" because that wasn't the RC way to do it. What a palaver, what a palaver.
066 Posted 25/09/2012 at 22:44:05
093 Posted 25/09/2012 at 23:54:29
We lost 3-0 and they were already relegated! My clearest memory of the game bizarrely is Mick Channon!
I do remember my Father telling me my all time favourite Joe Royle had scored four and then cutting the score out of the paper eventually losing it.
096 Posted 26/09/2012 at 00:05:48
I remember a couple of years later looking at it and seeing on the other side there was the remnants of a story about Dixie Dean having his right leg amputated. Hell of a coincidence as the cutting was only a 1 cm high and 3 cm wide... I'm sure I still have that one somewhere.
319 Posted 26/09/2012 at 17:25:48
The next season, we went the Soton game, and as an expectant 10-year-old, I was dreaming of a repeat scoreline.... Saints won 1-0.
Nothing changes, does it?
380 Posted 26/09/2012 at 21:27:02
Happy Days.
392 Posted 26/09/2012 at 23:09:04
I remember the 8-0 clearly, as it was one of the few highlights of my first season ticket (Gwladys St Stand, none of this 'Upper' and 'Lower' crap). £13 for the whole season, part of dad's redundo. I think the crowd was actually only 29,000 not the 33,000 mentioned above, but I could be wrong.
Bally's screamer v Newcastle was sometime that season, I think. It was on ITV on Sunday, but in all probability the tape at Granada will have been wiped.
Oh fuck, these nostalgia-fests ain't good for you.....
394 Posted 26/09/2012 at 23:45:32
http://www.evertonresults.com/197172.htm
I can't recommend this site too highly - it answers just about every niggling question on individual games, scorers, crowds.
616 Posted 28/09/2012 at 09:26:12
Many memories of the day. The foul weather so walking through the streets, mad dash up on into the wind, turn right, gentle stroll out of the bad weather, turn left another mad dash. Bally's goal. One from the by-line floated over the goalie by Joe Royle. Street end sheltering under the stand until about 5 minutes from the end then they stormed down to the wall around the pitch. And that we had been on a club tour the Thursday before and the club refused our request to walk on the pitch before every home match.
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635 Posted 24/09/2012 at 13:50:45
EVERTON: 1. Gordon West; 2. Tommy Wright; 3. John McLaughlin; 4. Howard Kendall; 5. Roger Kenyon; 6. Peter Scott; 7. David Johnson; 8. Alan Ball; 9. Joe Royle; 10. John Hurst; 11. Alan Whittle; 12. Jimmy Husband
GOALS: Johnson (3) [13, 28, 85]; Royle (4) [16, 40, 60, 72]; Ball [44]
Seconds before the interval came Ball’s moment of brilliance. Scampering a full 60 yards upfield with Whittle alongside, the midfielder slid the ball past Martin to make it a nap hand at the end of 45 wonderful minutes for the Blues.