Moyes 'set to be named' new United boss

Laudrup in.

Hope this Porto manager gets the job at least he knows how to win things.

Yet today I have heard unbridled platitudes nonsense about consistent attacking style of football, youth policy, no ego.......

We should wish him well and keep our fingers crossed that we do not fuck up his replacement.

In reality, this was planned, it's no coincidence that things just fall into place so smoothly. Everton won't be afforded any compensation or an official approach from Utd. You don't just hold out and the Utd job suddenly becomes available. Do us a favour Moyes and give the club the 4mil back you 'earned' this year.

No doubt Utd won't be paying you anything like that!

Over to you Bill.

I honestly do not blame DM for taking the post if it is offered. He has gone as far as he can with our side with the total lack of financial support he has had of late. I believe he had enough when the January window came and went without strengthening the squad for a final push.

He has been our best manager since we came into the Premier League and deserves the respect of all the fans for improving the side from the debris left by previous managers. The board are to blame for knocking the stuffing out of a man who I believe is honest in his quest to better EFC. I'm certainly frustrated at this board as I'm sure he is.

I don't know of a 'real' manager who would be interested in taking over the reins with the financial restraints he would be expected to work with. Perhaps Martinez as he is at a club which has just been relegated.

Thanks DM for saving us from relegation and building a competitive team without dosh!!

Give back the 4 Mil? What part of the season do you feel he tanked as a result of this (admitted) backroom deal? Sounds like sour grapes to me.

Again Everton was competitive and the ability to have little bit of quality to turn half of those draws into wins was missing... DM going to Man U and Man U going with DM is probably one of the riskiest things either of them could do...

I've wanted him to go for years as I've never liked his style and always thought him as a 'nearly man'.

I was one of those who thought he'd never get a bigger job than Everton, well I'm wrong about that. Being that no bigger club have come for him over the years and he didn't win any trophies I'm amazed one have come for him now.

That said, I'm very happy he's gone there because I don't see him winning the Champs league or even the Prem league despite the huge head start he's been given. We will now see just how good he is and in the future have the feeble "I told you so" light hearted arguments.

For the replacement, I want us to put everything into going for Laudrup, I'd said his name on this site 1-2 years ago. I think he will take to us to the next level.

A final point on Moyes. When he took over we were a poor relegation side and I'd like to thank him for making us a far more respectable top 10 team. It's a big shame he couldn't have rounded it off with a trophy.

Couldn't agree more.

What will you now do on Saturday or Sunday?!!!

You will have to moan about something else!!!

I totally appreciate everybodys opinion is as valid and as credible as mine but he was a GOOD manager.

Lets see what happens next, we have no money, a chairman who may think 'Fuck it', lets be grateful for all he has done.

I cant wait for next season, we may touch lucky and a new manager may stabalise us?!

I for one are disappointed to see him go and the abuse he has received on this site in particular is an absolute fucking disgrace.

The bigger question is whether certain players will want to move elsewhere now Moyes has gone. Whatever I eat drink smell or do tonight... all I can sense is that horrible uncertainty feeling!

The other question is who will going out of the exit door with him, Baines must be high on the list to follow him, he is the highest goal scoring creator in the Premier League and trusts in Moyes – that has his first signing written all over it, Fellaini has been a cert all season to go, again with no Moyes there is nothing that will stop him and I think there maybe a few more as well.

For all those who think this is a good move for Everton, I cannot see who you think will come in a do a better job than what he has done??

Good luck Davey Moyes – you deserve your shot at the big time.

Let's face it, we need a striker like Fellaini needs a barber. It would not surprise me come July to see that we have swapped Rooney and either Valencia or Cleverly for old mop head and Baines with a bit of cash for the new manager to spend on the side.

Who is the new manager going to be? I would rather hack my willy off with a penknife than see any of the following and their ilk at the helm: O'Neill, Martinez, Lambert, Lennon, Hughes, etc. I'd personally like to see Zola take on the job. I loved him as a player and I have watched him turn around Watford, albeit with the help of 421 Italian loan signings.

In any case, if the Moyes move goes through, then the ToffeeWeb "MOB" get their hearts desire. I've thought that their venom toward Moyes over the last 6 months (while being valid personal opinion) has been a bit OTT and I find it interesting that football's greatest ever manager has hand picked this man (who the "MOB" think is the world's greatest turnip) to succeed him.

If we're in the bottom half of the table with the new manager next year, I wonder how many will put their hands up and say they were wrong. Or maybe they'll still blame Moyes... for taking our two best players to Manchester!

One things for sure, this off-season may be the most interesting for an Everton supporter for many years.

Who will we go for? Martinez? Laudrup? I'm sure BK will want a young, malleable manager a la Moyes of 11 years ago.

A new era dawns ... what the Toffee Web anti Moyes brigade wished for ... but as they say, "be careful what you wish for".

I'm so surprised... I thought Helen Chamberlain from the telly had as much of a sniff as our boy! Incredible!

I really thought the Mancs would get Mourinho or that fella who Pep pushed out of Bayern... I never imagined for a moment they'd be daft enough to get David Moyes!

We get nothing out of it, of course – because he didn't sign a new deal, of course. And obviously a Mr Rooney is tapping up anywhere they'll pay the freight.

I hope Martinez / Laudrup is coming. I wanted Adkins, but Davey dithered just long enough to fuck that up. Anyway, to the end of an era, and the start of a better one!

Don't be afraid of change.

COYB.

I'm hoping we somehow keep him but it looks increasingly unlikely.

Martin O'Neill??? Bottles it and runs away when the going gets tough (and theres every chance things are going to getty fairly tough at Everton over the nexy year or 2!!)

Martinez?? Flavour of the month just as Rogers was last year. Wigan may play lots of pretty football in midfield but my god have you seen them defend?? Surely that reflects on a mangers ability??

Big European name?? Why would they come. Most are in it for the big EPL money. I doubt theyll get that at Everton anytime some despite that infamous '24/7 search for investment'

Who's left?? Please don't entertain ideas of ex- blues of the likes of Peter Reid, Dave Jones etc

Which leaves us where exactly? Im not saying I would welcome it but I just feel it will come from within. If Neville doesnt go with Moyes to Utd I can see him taking over (probably with an old head to assist). Alternatively Stubbs will step up from the U21 team.

Realistically its probably all we can afford

Thanks a bunch Bill!!

http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2013/5/8/4313384/bill-kenwright-is-astonishingly-clueless-according-to-report?

It is you who are the disgrace deriding Evertonians who have the temerity to disagree with you. We are all entitled to our opinions and it is the fans who are the club (particularly those who pay for their season tickets) not a man paid 3 million a year to do a job who are the club.

I wish him well but he is gone now and he has had less positive influence on the club than truly great Everton managers such as Catterick and Kendall so get over yourself.

"I'd be hugely underwhelmed if this is the direction we're taking. Ferguson going is the perfect opportunity to modernise our football, not bring in someone who has spent the last few years setting up teams to boot it up the field to a big, dirty, curly haired fuck.

He'll probably bring that useless c**t here with him.

Fuck this shit."

...And who can blame him - a unique opportunity to manage a club at the very top of world football; Hell if I were him - I would.
While I love Everton I accept that we can never be a major force without a billionaire owner

Anyway, I for one wish him well and express my gratitude for 11 years of (generally) overachievement.

What we all fear of course is that we will now sell BIG in the summer and not reinvest; new manager will take months to appoint etc etc. which means back to relegation battles for next season - I have so missed them (not!)

BTW many were predicting Baines and Fellaini would be going this Summer anyway, so bringing this up in the context if Moyes going seems like a red herring.

If you think the abuse that Moyes has received on this site is a disgrace, then don't read anything about Bumbling Bill - that might upset you.

I am sure Moyes would have stayed if it weren't for the odd supporter thinking that perhaps it may have helped if we had actually gone to Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, The Emirates and Anfield sometime in the last 11 years and tried to win - rather than trying to keep it tight and nick one - which we didn't manage to do in over 40 games.

He steadied the ship, got rid of Walter Smith's old timers and got us back into the respectable bit of the league. Yes he was a good manager doing his best to build a quality cheap squad.

He's also chosen to leave (when he'll be out of contract so no compensation for us either).

But those who assume that we are going to be relegation fodder now it looks like he's going is ridiculous when we don't know who might be coming. As long as it isn't someone like Harry (who needs tactics?) Redknapp, Martin O'Neill or Mark Hughes.

Martinez has been mentioned. I'd like to think that our defenders are a bit better than those at Wigan and wouldn't make the howlers that have littered their season. Is it time to try someone from left field? Solskjaar?

A good comment tonight on TalkSport suggested how successful would Sir Alex had of been at Everton over the last 11 years with minimal funding, a very small squad and very little support from the board — I think Fuck All would be the outcome!

I actually think David Moyes will do very well at Man Utd once he is free of the shackles of the board of Everton FC; I also think we have some very bleak times ahead once he's gone as the current pool of so called Prem Managers is shit.

I'll be there on Sunday and I won't be embarrassed to applaud David Moyes for the energy and effort he's put in to our great club over the last 11 years.

Best of luck Davey!

In my opinion, Moyes salary alone undermines the 'shoestring budget' theory.

Just a handful of clueless idiots, around 20 I would say.

Moyes has done a great job at EFC, theres no other manager that can push us up further in the league.

Time will prove this and we will see Moyes further development into one of the new great managers of his time.

Most Evertonians already know this of course.

Good luck Davey Moyes, thanks for putting us back on the map.

Over to you Bill, Jon Woods, Robert Earl... Lord Grantchester.

Moyes: Ok Bill, just let me sleep on it...

(Call to Fergie)

... then it will be upon the recommendation of SAF and with his blessing. Regardless of what anyone on here thinks, DM is hugely respected among his peers, and by many others 'in the game'. He's won the LMA annual award more than once. But what do they know!?

When DM came here, it was a huge step-up and he achieved. He'll quite likely do so again.

Anyway, he turned us around. The season he came we finished something like 37 points behind the Red Shi*te. This season, barring a slip up, and for the first time since 1937, we'll finish above that other lot in a second, successive season.

DM did give us a go in the CL, after our best ever finish in the Prem. He took us away from being a group of supporters praying each year we could avoid the drop - now we have some who bitch that he let us down, having just missed out on the CL places, again!

He's crap really, we deserve so much better, bring back Mike Walker, all is forgiven....

Good luck Davey. I'm a little surprised myself but obviously the most successful ever manager in English football believes you're worth a shot at replacing him. And being a long-term friend of yours, I know he's not done this just to see you fail - to underline how important he (SAF) was to Manyoo - 13 titles and 2 CL trophies shows he'll never need to do such a thing.

Jeez, the shit never stops.

Moyes was likely on strict orders to keep shtum, and I fancy Billy was advised of the position ages ago too, and has been looking for a replacement. ManU has been good to us in some respects in recent seasons (loans and purchases, Neville, Howard, Saha) and I suspect BK doesn't want to queer the pitch with them, especially if Davey is going to OT where he can do his old club more than the odd favour!

More than a handful of "clueless idiots".

I bet his sons Hibbert and Ossie are sad tonight!

I wonder if he will take Round with him and Neville as backroom staff?

Please, Mr Moyes, don't take Naismith coz he is boss. [Slap myself!!!]

How can you possibly respect all opinions, but some are a fucking disgrace?

Are you bi-polar?

I have mixed feelings over Moyes going, and I thought he was a better man than the man who has strung along the club for only he knows how long.

The thought of Kenwright selecting a new manager fills me with dread.

Let him inform the players at Finch Farm and say his goodbye's but to have him taking charge of the team - contracted or not - once he confirms he is going that should be it.

Don't forget once he becomes the United manger to be, any problems with idiotic supporters will be hyped-up to the nth degree and Everton FC will suffer as a result.

Let's see if the decision they have made is the correct one. Man Utd may not finish closer to first next season than Everton do to 6th but it's down to the manager isn't it?

Maybe whoever comes in will release the shackles and by playing 2 up front and leaving 3 up front when defending corners, you never know we might just win a trophy.

I do hope it's not another Scot. I mean, I like the Scots, but we've been there and done that, haven't we?

Thankfully, I'm not in that group.

Shame on Bill and the board for not putting their hands in their pockets and supporting Moyes more. I truly believe that with more financial support from our greedy self important board, Everton would have featured regularly in the Champions League over the past 11 years. Without Moyes getting us punching above our financial weight for years I think we are doomed.

Those looking for pretty football and give it a go at all costs attitude, please remember Blackpool. Sure we will probably be playing them in a couple of years again anyway. An outside shout for new manager: Stuart McCall.

Life-long left-winger, heart still in those docks, refused to open the door when the current chancellor came canvassing. And one hell of a manager and personality.

The greatest ever footie manager in Blighty. One of the bright spots of our near two decades without a trophy for me is watching Man-U leap-frog the shite. If we don't win the Prem, cough, I want Man-U to win it, and that will remain the case with Moysey taking his trip down the East Lancs. Thanks for that SAF.

Man-U are no fools. The longest serving manager in the Prem is replaced by the third longest serving manager in the Prem. Smart. Astute. Unlike the shite I think Man-U despite the world brand has class. Moyes is the perfect character to replace SAF, never mind what he has done at Everton. It's a perfect fit. Talk about continuity, a class choice by the Man-U board.

Us? Laudrup, Zola, Pereira, Pellegrini

Cynically looking forward to seeing mega-phoney Kenwright supply the happy few with the definitive genius who will surpass Moyes, despite the same constraints.

As for all the speculation as to whether he's the right man for that job - to be honest, Ferguson is leaving such a well-oiled machine that I -- or anyone else on this site -- could probably take over and let things run their course for a season or two, inevitably picking up some silverware. It would be some achievement to break something that really doesn't need fixing.

I suspect that Man U see him as a safe pair of hands for the Ferguson legacy. But will they be so keen on those safe hands when he parks the bus at home to Stoke?

Ah well. To the future, lids...

He certainly helped to stabalise a dying beast and I think he should be thanked whole heartedly for the job he has done. But I must admit to looking forward to some fresh ideas and hopefully a new manager we can be even more proud of.

Please don't fuck this up Bill.

I tend to agree with the pundits that he is not suited to this job, having no EU experience and dealing with a gang of prima donnas, not to mention at least 75 thousand Mancs who think that they have a god-given right to win everything in the game.

The big fear is that he will take some of our best players such as Bainesy, Fellaini and possibly Jags with him. Like fatso and Lescott, the whole business leaves a very bad taste in the mouth – and if it happens, I hope he falls flat on his face.

COYB

I will acknowledge that you, amongst others, will have to suffer withdrawal symptoms.

Some thoughts come to mind from an old geezer who remembers (at 8 years odd) seeing the Busby babes play at the grand old lady in September 1957 - 70000 plus that day!

When SAF started at MU he was relatively unknown outside of Scotland. And let's face it although he won some hardware, there wasn't much competition apart from Rangers and Celtic, and they were both pretty poor clubs during that period who didn't present any serious competition. So when he came down south he still had a lot to prove - and that he has done with the acclaim he now deserves.

However, to try to compare Moyes with SAF, is I think a bit unrealistic. When DM came to EFC we were desparate and in need of some direction. I think he did that and has brought stability, though not the success to the club that we all crave. Those of my age all remember the glory days of the 60's & 70's when we were a force to reckoned with.

When SAF arrived at MU, we were top dogs along with the RS, Arsenal, etc. When DM came we were nearly at rock bottom and we still don't have a pot to piss in, when all said and done. Yet we still haven't done all that bad under DM.

Love him or hate him (I'm still not sure myself how I feel), he's done ok.

If DM goes to MU as all the pundits expect, then he will probaly have a lot of success. MU have a history with hiring Scottish managers, going back to Busby. I also suspect that SAF has had a major influence on who will succeed him as manager - he never says or does anything without prior thought to future expectations. So I think SAF will be the guide of whoever takes over from him and especially if it is Moyes, as they have a mutual respect/admiration of each other.

The knock on Moyes and his lack of winning any hardware, is unfair, in my opinoin. Consider that the majority of teams over the last decade who have won the hardware, have spent gazillions of dollars to win it. Although in the case of the RS, not so successfully as the other culprits.

A couple of other things come to mind. If he goes will he keep Rooney? Will he poach Fellaini?

Finally, who do we get to replace him? I'm leaning to managers who are ex-players myself - Dave Jones maybe , Peter Reid, Joe Royle MK II. Or mabey Zola - at least for his huge smile alone!!!

If he poaches anyone, it's Baines I worry about. Fella can go another year or 2 with us and still bounce to another club for big money.

Baines is 29 and at the top of his prime. His next contract is the only one that will reward him with a ton of money. If Moyes wants him at ManU, their owners can pay the freight, without question.

Now, what our owners will do with the transfer funds . . . . . . .

I only hop BK has lost Mark Hughes 'phone number after all these years.

When I go the match, I want to be entertained for the price I paid for the ticket. Give me a team and a manager who can do this and I'll be happy to go home afterwards to all the shite REAL life throws at me.

It's all about opinions, none of us are managers but we all love the beautiful game in different ways, so why do we bother with the business side meant for business men. Entertain us, you wankers!

I'm scratchin' round for work. I'll take Roberto Martinez married with the defensive set up at Everton to bring back the School of Science, spliffs and footy forever!! Go ed, fuck me up, experts!!!

Its a critical period in the Club. In my view Moyes has staved off diaster and irrelevancy. Hope the next man can too. Please no ex-players.

I just hope that there is no rush to sign a new manager and that the board does some homework first. There have been a few names mentioned above, but I hope to hell that the old failed managers such as Hughes, Big Sam, etc aren't chosen. I don't think Martinez has a good record either. I'd prefer to see someone with the drive of Moyes put in although perhaps with a bit more ability to see player flair as a good character trait.

I can see Fellaini, Jags and Baines heading to Manchester though. Hope we get some good money for them.

I can see Fellaini, Jags and Baines heading to Manchester though. Hope we get some good money for them.

Long-standing managers like SAF do not retire on an overnight whim: it is a long-planned event. This means that Moyes and Manchester United must have colluded to keep him available with no contract being signed so that he could move AT NO COMPENSATION COST TO UNITED. There can be no other explanation of Moyes's contortions over his new contract.

What this also means is that both Moyes and Man Utd have acted dishonorably and in all likelihood ILLEGALLY in the tapping up of an IN-CONTRACT Manager without the permission of the Contract holder club or an HONEST declaration by the incumbent Manager that he wanted to quit.

I believe this has been in the works for MONTHS if not YEARS with the full agreement of D Moyes Esq... and that Ferguson's retirement issue was triggered by the winning of the Premier League trophy this season. If Man U had not won this season, I believe that SAF would have carried on at least one more season or until they did win it again.

But I believe the retirement plans were in place — and the the DISHONORABLE Moyes and the UNDERHAND Man Utd regime were all in synch. If SAF did not retire this year, Moyes would have signed and all his 'pushing Billy Liar for funds' and 'waiting to see where Everton finished in the Prem' were just pathetic EXCUSES to keep Dour Dire Davey's options open should SAF not retire.

If, as likely, Moyes is appointed Man Utd manager TODAY, that will just confirm that contract and negotiations had been agreed long ago.

As I said, I agree with you about everything else in your post.

I wish every team in the Premier League had Man City's money and that would make it interesting. Ferguson always overpaid for players and set the benchmark for Chelsea and now Man City which has screwed the league up for the rest of the teams.

Looks like a dejected, sad man.

Definitely knows his guardian angel is leaving him.

The body language, the dodging of questions and vague answers. Dude knows Moyes is gone.

The dogs should be scared, very scared, tonight. Probably asleep not even aware Bill stands over them at 4:30 in the morning over there with a butcher knife. Bill's gonna lose his mind...

I fear that we'll head the same way as Villa Newcastle and Sunderland. Teams similar in size to Everton but yo yo shit with inferior managers. They all spend more than we do yet end up more often than not as premier fodder.

I'm dissapointed our man is going and I'm worried about our future. Don't balls it up Bill.

Nice post Paul Ferry re SAF.

How else would this have panned out? If Moyes said in January he was going to Man Utd at the end of the season, what would have happened then? Let's be realistic, at least he gave it a good shot at getting us into the top four/five again?

We can't have it both ways, Moyes has consistently been coy all season about his longer term EFC objectives so at least there is some honesty and albeit limited communication to all at EFC?

What concerns me more is during this time (of Moyes's uncertainty), what have BK and the board been doing regarding replacing DM if he did decide to go (whether to Man Utd) or not?

I've just seen SSN coverage of a shellshocked BK as if he has just been hit for six – surely this cannot come as a surprise to him considering the longstanding rumours of DM being groomed as SAF's successor?

I'm personally gutted that DM is moving on (he has held this club up without the foundation of solid finances) but change is inevitable and I wish him well as he has been a solid advocate for EFC during his tenure here.

Big question's – what longstanding strategy are BK and the Board going to implement now? Or am I just being NAIVE?

"Oh Davey Moyes, Davey Davey Davey Moyes"

I give him till Christmas.

If you're interested, here's a link to where it starts getting good, amazingly enough their forum posts seem to be of a very familiar ilk, good reading and a lot of respect for Everton FC as a club.

http://www.redcafe.net/f6/Moyes-succeed-ferguson-anyone-74640/index40.html

Whyever would I give a fuck what fans of MUFC have to say about their new manager?

Fortunately for the mighty blues we now have the opportunity to move forward, entertain and actually try and win something.

Happy happy days.

Good luck David Moyes, no matter what people say about him, he gave his all for the club over 11 years. He made mistakes, just like any manager would over that 11-year period, but you can never doubt his commitment to the cause.

I don't blame him one bit for going to Man Utd and at least now we can all view whether he can hack it at the very top after endless debate on TW over the years. We can also all find out if life after David gets better or worse for Everton and we can see which side of the fence will be proved correct. Interesting times ahead whatever happens.

My worry now is to whom Bill will turn to to replace him. I really hope that both Joe Royle and Walter Smith have hung up their manager's boots for good.......

And before you start handing out knobs please don't misquote me.

"A few people are probably in love with the idea of a relatively modestly known manager coming in and building his own legacy here, in reality that's a very difficult thing to do considering who he is replacing, the team he is inheriting and the expectations that will be on his shoulders."

"We're not Liverpool, we're not a team who has struggled in recent years and needs time to be rebuilt, we already have a great team (or close to it) that needs a great manager, and that manager is not Moyes, it'd just be a bad move, in my eyes."

"This is arguably the biggest club in the world, and as good as Moyes has done at Everton what makes people think its enough to manage Manchester United?"

"Sources saying successor is cut from same cloth. It's fucking Moyes isn't it. Can't believe it."

"We're fucked."

"Such an uninspiring choice. No experience of winning trophies, no experience of dealing with big players, no CL experience. It's a massive gamble if he is chosen and if he doesn't start well he will be under immense pressure."

"I don't get why they have to wait 48 hours when everyone already knows who it's going to be. FUCKING MOYES!"

The truth can hurt sometimes...

Moyes has well and truly shafted the fans, the club and by the sounds of it, his lovey duvey Chairman.

#635 The fact DM didn't commit to EFC (six months ago) says that in all likelihood he was on his way at the end of season anyway doesn't it? My take on DM's honesty is that he actually verbalised these intentions and has indeed seen out his EFC contract. Is that not integrity?

As for DM not caring about EFC, his 11 years of battling on the financial shoestring that BK and the Board has afforded him is testament enough to his
passion for the club and it's supporters.

As I stated in my original comment, I generally agree with your sentiments but my main concern is that during these past six months what has BK and the Board been proactively doing in searching for an adequate DM replacement?

If he decided to go to Man Utd in January then good luck to him; I have no axe to grind there. Let's all move on and look ahead to who will come in and replace him.

Moyes has given the chairman 12 months notice that he intends to leave if certain conditions aren't met. They've not been met so he's not going to renew his contract and found a new job.

Nowt wrong with that,

The big question should the announcement that indeed David Moyes is the new manager of Manchester United is "What the fuck are you going to post about now?"

Maybe you can find another target for your mean spirited, obsessional, alliterative and nonsensical bile. I mean you are now trawling Man Utd forums to try and support your own opinions. Sad but, as ever, PREDICTABLE.

What will make me toss and turn is who will this fiasco of a board get to replace him.

If I was in a job that I have to scrimp and save and not given the resources to do my job properly, I would fuck off as well, so I don't blame him at all.

As we have said in the past, the mess we are in is because of the Board, pure and simple, and now the manager has said "Fuck it, I'll go somewhere I can really test how good I am with better players and a squad I can build on."

Whether he is good enough, only time will tell. This whole scenario is down to BK, simple as that. I just wish he'd do one.

Time for BK and the Board to (hopefully) step up and to demonstrate some real Leadership for once! Realistically, I fear that their continued inability to generate meaningful funds to keep the likes of DM at Goodison will seriously come back to haunt BK once DM has gone. BK can't hide behind DM any longer hey?

I personally am looking forward to a new European style manager coming in, Laudrup, Martinez etc. Definitely not a Hughes, O'Neill, Bruce type. But even if it is one of those (God forbid) he'll get the support he needs.

All this na na n na na, told you so bollox is boring, predictable and pathetic, let's move on aye.

There have been several occasions over the last few years when I would have been delighted if DM had been given the boot, but taken as a whole he has been an outstanding manager over 11 years here.

With the financial might of United behind him I'm sure he will win silverware aplenty. Which is a shame because I cant stand United.

More worryingly for us the list of potential candidates stinks. Martinez or MacKay would be depressingly awful appointments but if we end up with Hughes my final act will be a swan dive into the Mersey.

From the list of rumoured possibilities I hope this Porto chap gets the job, and that's mainly because I know nothing about him.

Moyes sure is filling some massive shoes...so will our next boss.

I just hope we get someone in quickly and he is given money to spend when Fellaini goes.....quickly I hope.

Nobody, on here anyway, will know for sure what went on and when decisions were made.

One thing you can't argue with though is that Moyes ended the fear of flirting with relegation and made "most of us" believe that we had a chance of challenging at or near the top on quite a regular basis.

He certainly steadied the ship, and whether someone with more flair, more ready to take a chance on youth, could have done more, we'll never know.

Depending on which side of the fence you're on we're now in a very exciting or firghtening period.

One thing I always try to remind myself of though, and we as supporters DO easily forget.

We're "at the club" because we choose to be (or we're chosen as we like to say) but the manager, and the players are there because they're paid to be, it's a job, and although they'll show passion and desire (sometimes) it's not the same passion and desire that we, as supporters, have.

So don't be too surprised f Moyes has known about "the move" for some time....

I just hope that if that's the case then Kenwright's known as well, and he's been doing things in the background to ensure that things are in place to ensure that the number one priority, EVERTON FOOTBALL CLUB, prospers.

I have my doubts.........................

to stick two fingers up to auld-Bacon-face we appoint his son Darren* as our new Manager - brilliant you have to admit!

(*this is a joke of course)

I hope we can all be big enough and ugly enough to move on, wipe the slate clean so to speak and not find other reasons to perpetuate the factions we turned into, and that includes Peter if he's reading :)

I'd like to formally retire from the MOB, he's gone, let's support Mr X when he comes, he's going to need it, just like Moyes is going to need the support of the United faithful.

COYB

What makes SAF one of the greatest figures in the game is that he has the foresight (and opportunity) to build a succession plan.

What makes our chairman one of the most naive figures in the game is that he hasn't made a plan-B even thought this has been stirring him and the board in the face for more than 2 years.

I can hear it now:

SAF: “Davie boy, you know I am not getting any younger. Would you like to manage the greatest team in the world?”
DM: “Tranmere Rovers?”
SAF: “Na ya dumb ginger scots twat – here...the theatre of dreams”
DM: “Me Boss?”
SAF: “Yes Davie Boy someday all of this will be yours. Now about that contract they offered you...”

Moyes leaving will be a wrench, but im excited to see who might come in.

When John Gregory is eventually appointed in late August I will calm down again...

For whatever reason there were no additions, and with that, I think, CL qualification became very unlikely, and Moyes' mind was made up.

I think if he'd had the funding and been able to give it "a right good go" he may well have wanted to play in the CL with Everton.

Think he knew it was then or never.............

To be honest I'm not bothered about Moyes going, I think after 11years, He's left us in good shape, but we've never looked like winning anything, so perhaps a change will do us good.

Maybe get a manager that knows how to pick a decent striker.

Laudrup, or Martinez, for me.

Went to shit club no one ever heard of, and with no money struggled to keep them up before finally going down.

I actually felt worry for Kenwright, he seemed to genuinely not know what had happened.

97/98 – 40
98/99 – 43
99/00 – 50
00/01 – 42
01/02 – 43

For all those that have been crowing for his head on this site for the last few years you’re about to get your wish and a reality check. Let’s hope you’re right and I’m wrong.

Steve #415, Couldnt agree more, as an unashamedly biased Evertonian, can't see a better job than the manager of Everton & im also sad that Moysie doesnt agree. Lets hope the next appointment is the right one.

There'll be no honeymoon period in that job for DM either. Can't see it been a match when you have a dressing room full of winners being coached by someone who has won nothing of note.

A big club will never touch him
………………. Indeed.

I hope with all my heart that we get a guy who can do something with this club, but when I look to the wisdom of those who have been calling for him to go – well, it doesn’t exactly fill you with optimism does it. How many wrong calls do those guys have to make before they stop to believe themselves

Join the 'X'OB...you know it makes sense

You never know, he may accidentally get it right, a bit of luck and all that, weirder things have happened.

COYB

may have been flagged by others, if so sorry, but it raises a few points for discussion.

With the resources he will have at his disposal and the power man utd have ( an English bayern), I have no doubt he will be just as successful as ferguson. Utd will go out and buy bale, Moyes will get moutiniho/Fellini and lewendovski - job done.

And unlike bayern Munich, Utd will allow Moyes 20 years to carry on doing exactly what ferguson did. Which was sign the best player year on year from the premier lqu, and rape the country of all the best youth players.

Paisley was more successful than shankley and there has never been a more better placed, more dominant, rich club to take over.

Everton don't have these resources and NEVER will. The boat has sailed, FFP rules out a billionaire anyway. So for us to win a trophy, we need to surprise the top opposition. try things out of the ordinary. A manager who may not have Moyes intelligence or uefa badges, but someone who can inspire, think outside the box, attack man utd.

Moyes got us to the posn our club was big enough to be in, 6th-7th. He got us 'were we belonged', he never over achieved, expect for one season when we finished 4th. Overall he done his job and this season he proved he could take us no further.

I want a manager will like Royle, who had no respect for Liverpool, Man U or anyone else. Who is not as good as Moyes on the overall management of a club, but when he finds himself in a derby or semi, he will wind them up, believe he's better. Under Moyes we went into derbies higher in lque but in fear. A manager who installs confidence not doubt is what we need now.

Personally I'm prepared to risk a few downs in return for some ups

Someone like Lambert or Laudrup. At least you would be certain that in a semi, final, derby or home tie v Wigan, that our most tecnically gifted, quickest and youngest players would take to the pitch in totall confidence of taking the game to the opposition.

This style might be risky and lead to a few dodgy seasons but I'm willing to bet that a trophy would be gained in 11 years.

Everyone who is upset about Moyes going, just remember this is a man who picked Neville over Barkley an Gibson in QF. For all the good his characteristics done, they also held us back.

Ps footy is shit anyway...as this proves man utd just take whoever they want and will dominate football in this country forever now. England has become a Spain, Germany, Scotland. The only good thing is the redshirted are finished. If you buy sky, watch MotD, and buy a season ticket(like I do) then you're the cause of it.

I wouldn't worry about that, even if he did want them, would they want to go. Barkley couldn't get a game at Everton under him never mind at Utd.

Quote from the article in Tony's post.......Moyes getting blamed if we do poorly next season.....come on! Who on here wrote that article?

That said, for me there is only 2 managers that I would be interested in coming to Goodison Park. Laudrup or Pellegrini. If Laudrup comes to us, then I can see most of the first team dismantled, which I am all for.

Let's hope wherever Moyes goes, he takes his favourites.

All I know is, we need a manager who knows his stuff, knows the European markets and can bring in very cheap, high quality gems.

If I was Barkley, having had to watch Osman, Pienaar ect play consistently shite and still not get a game the last thing i'd want to do is then follow that manager to a team with genuine top players and money to burn.

He did stabilize us very well, but he did really fail to keep the team fresh and young, ultimately looks like leaving us with an aging squad with few (if any) youngsters blooded and ready.

In the cold light of day however, what would be a fair assessment of the man as a manager of Everton Football Club?

Firstly. he did turn the club around to a large extent. From perennial relegation battlers to a genuine top eight side with pretensions. It is often said that his work in the area of transfers has been excellent and certainly in some respects that is true but there have also been some abysmal signings. But overall it would be fair to say ( I think) that once allowances have been made for the sort of market he has to shop in his record is pretty good.

His use of substitutes is absolutely disastrous. While I recognise he has never been exactly spoilt for choice on many occasions I can think of only one game in his whole tenure where he seemed to make a substitution that changed a game. I say 'seemed' because it was the game against Spurs a few years ago when he brought Coleman on for the first time to shore up the defence and instead Coleman charged at Spurs, kept them back and we ended up snatching a draw from the jaws of defeat. In other words I'm not sure that that was his intention. I cannot think of one other occasion where he seemed to suggest by his substitutions that he recognised something was wrong and needed to change it. Instead, his substitutions always seemed to be about bringing on another striker if we needed a goal or another defender if we wanted to hold out. For me, that was as far as his substitutions ever went.

Regarding his style of play, it has to be admitted that he has shown he can instil a bit of adventure into the teams play when he thinks he has the players who can do it. But my distinct impression is that as a defender in his playing days he saw the game from that point of view and the priority was always to defend what he had. With regard to this his refusal to keep somebody upfield for opponent's corners and free-kicks around the area often meant prolonged periods when we were under pressure simply because even if the corner was successfully defended the ball would just keep on coming straight back in. We often conceded goals in those circumstances. His rationale for this was 'you defend corners', as if anybody thought you didn't, but defending corners is not only about getting the ball away it also about having a chance to keep it which he never seemed to appreciate.

Another effect of seeing the game from the edge of your own area is that this tends to blunt the confidence of players to go forward with confidence and I think this is a part of the reason why Everton at present have a distinct ability to ruin strikers. Not only are their defensive responsibilities always at the forefront of their mind, it makes it physically tiring too. After leaving Everton, Andy Johnson stated his own unhappiness at the tasks he was expected to do as a striker at the club and how this diminished his ability to score goals. There is no doubt in my mind that Moyes is a defensively minded manager and that can be fine but only if you have the ability and pace to play on the break which is something he never provided or attempted.

He is obviously very ambitious and this can lead to fear some of which will inevitably affect the players. I believe this is why we always had a tendency to lose the important games under Moyes. By important games I don't just mean finals, semi-finals and games against 'big' clubs, but also games like the Wigan cup tie this season, the game against Leeds in the League Cup and the Sunderland game the other week, the loss of which virtually decided that we would not be playing in the Champions League next season nor (probably) in Europe at all. As good as Everton can be at times we tend to collapse into a shell of fear and lack of confidence in games that really matter. This has to be down to the manager and his failure to motivate players and build their confidence to the point where they can turn it on when it really matters. In that respect, in my view, Moyes was a failure.

Moyes has made his reputation as the manager of plucky little Everton who always punch above their weight. The fact he has won nothing takes little away from that fact. The fact that Portsmouth and Swansea have during his tenure is never mentioned. But Moyes will not have that get-out clause available at Manchester United. A club that has gorged itself on success for 22 years is not going to hang around until the trophies start to return. The weight of expectation will now be firmly on his shoulders and he will not be able to blame the lack of money or the fact that he does not have good enough players or a big enough squad at his disposal for future failure. He is not the first manager to make a bit of a name for himself at a 'smaller' club and others have gone on to fail miserably at a 'bigger' one. Whether he will fail or succeed remains to be seen but I have the distinct impression that Moyes will not be at Old Trafford for too long.

Scoring will not be a problem for United as it is for Everton.

Tony, Moyes hasn't had Vellios up front in 18 months. Just saying. Also, in contrast to your "the King is dead" line, I haven't been able to get "Ding dong, the witch is dead" out of my head.

Moyes methods will work at OT, but when we needed slight risk or two in order to win a big game he couldn't provide it.

Very good manager who done a great job, so well done davey! But he's gone, so we should all grow up, rid ourselves of our inferiority complex, stop worrying about him going and boo him for making a bad choice.

Because in my eyes we are in competition with everyone in prem. and we are the grand old team of the prem, and he has decided to compete directly with us.

Hes the enemy now so I don't care what happens to him. We've his wages for 11 years, he did a good job, no he's gone, so bloody what? Everton are bigger than Moyes, he's just an employee who defected.

Have you admitted how massively wrong you were Tim/Peter?

It seems the only ire and angst is coming from you and your ilk thrashing on about compensation payments and betraying the club. Most pro Moyes posters appear to accept it as disappointing but understandable.
I can certainly understand why a manager who has worked under severe financial constraints for eleven years would want to go and work for the biggest football club on the planet.
That would be one of those big clubs you said would never offer him a job.
But we do know you have never let the facts get in the way of your irrational hatred of David Moyes.

Some people liked Moyes. Some people thought he was OK. Some, like yourself, didn't. Some of us even went through stages of like, dislike and indifference. I fell into the latter category this season.

Regardless, WE'RE ALL EVERTONIANS.

I have zero issue with anyone loving Moyes; utterly despising him or anything in between. What I am sick to the back teeth of is how certain TW stalwarts communicate with their fellow blues behind the safety of their own keyboards.

So what if there are blues on this site that are gutted Moyes is going. I've spoken to many (face to face I hasten to add) who feel exactly that way. It's a similar situation for many as when Rooney left.

Maybe it's time to wind your neck in, send your "apologist"/"Moyesophile" labels into retirement and grow the fuck up?

Profound, TimPeter. And said with no capitals! And here's me thinking you were Predictable. Well, yes, I guess you still are. "Intelligence" and "wit"! Now, that's what we've come to expect from you.

I know we have our little discussion, TimPeter but I am really starting to feel some pity for you. I don't know if there's been something in your life to make you this way. Whatever it is, I hope it works out for you. But why don't you give it a rest - unless you like being stalked.

Which "Moyesophiles," have accused him of deserting us? Can you back that up?

That the dire, dour, etc..blah, manager is being courted by the biggest club on the planet, pissing over every obnoxious critique made by both you, AND your alter-ego over the years, must rankle.

I still cannot understand the mentality of the club allowing people to run their contracts down.

The offer of a new contract extension should have had a time limit of 30 days to sign or we seek a replacement.

It wouldnt surprise me if we don't get a replacement till just before the start of the new season with no time left to get reinforcements in.

Once again no plan B.

I really do despair for the future under Kenwright without Moyes.

I don't think we are in a position to pay compensation to another club for their manager, so I think we will end up with one of Round, Neville, Stubbs or Sheedy, or a combination. All of which are great servants to the club, but all would be a big risk.

HAHAHAA

Hughes has put himself forward for the vacant managers job at Everton.

Dear God, please don't let this happen

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/08/phil-neville-everton-david-Moyes

I wish David Moyes all the very best at Man U and I'm sure if there's one man that can single-mindedly make his mark there with all the pressure, it's him.

I understand what a lot of people have been saying over the years about Moyes in the fact that they think he's technically inept, but I am worried about the clubs future if he goes.... Just to clarify.. No one likes the status quo that Moues has brought, but by the same token Moyes has probably provided stability that another manager may not bring with the same resources.

My big concern is... Moyes goes and then we have a fantastic season with a manager who gets some more out of the players, then the year after we get relegated. I hope not, but this is my concern.

For the sake of my sanity (such as it is), I'm going to leave TW alone until the BBC report some definite news on all this. It's doing my head in!

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-05-09/confusion-as-united-facebook-announces-Moyes-as-boss/

I might cut the cord then...

Now we are going to have to endure a horrible couple of weeks... with the likes of Hughes and O'Neil linked, and our destiny left in Kenwright's hands. I want Laudrup personally, or Pereira. I have reservations over Martinez' defensive capacity, but I think he would be acceptable choice. I like Di Matteo too, and if we took a manager from the lower leagues, I would choose Poyet. I really don't want Hughes, or O'Neil, or Lennon, like all of us I expect. And I am confident we would never appoint Neville long term.

Whether pro or anti-Moyes (I'm pro), I think everyone can respect what he has done for this club in eleven years. He without any doubt as left this club in better state than when he took over, and we just need to make sure we pick the right manager, to keep us financially stable, and competitive, until some money comes in to allow us to compete with the elite again.

A sad day.

Let's give him a send off, but not as manager. He can come on the pitch, we can all clap and cheer and thank him (well maybe not all). Then let him sit in the stands and watch the game

Let's hope it's a 24/7 search for a new manager. Otherwise we could be waiting a very long till we get someone...