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Mark Ryan
1 Posted 27/01/2022 at 09:48:48
Stop dithering, Everton.

Get Lampard in, get him to get some players in, we then survive.

He's available!

Colin Glassar
2 Posted 27/01/2022 at 10:22:35
Lampard seems to be sneaking ahead of the pack but don't rule out a last-minute dash from Fat Sam who has some “unfinished business” at Everton.

Ian, in the absence of a board or a director of football, an ad hoc transfer committee of Doris the tea lady, young Jimmy Kelly (apprentice ball boy) and the homeless fella who sits in front of the Winslow are dealings with incomings and outgoings.

Laurie Hartley
3 Posted 27/01/2022 at 10:58:39
I see the media are really pushing for Lampard now. So I'll ask the same question that I put on the other thread.

If he is so good a manager, why did he miss out on these five Premier League jobs in the last year?

Norwich
Crystal Palace
Aston Villa
Newcastle
Watford

As well as:

Celtic
Rangers

He wouldn't be my pick and I think Moshiri would be making another big mistake by appointing him.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

4 Posted 27/01/2022 at 11:12:57
Sorry Laurie, but to me your repeated question is a redundant one, not a telling one.

In some cases he declared he wasn't interested, so wasn't even interviewed. In other cases (and you can add Norwich to the mix) he was approached, talked to and then declared he was not interested.

Why should that exclude him from consideration for the Everton job?

And I write as someone who is ambivalent to him becoming our manager, not someone championing for him.

Mark Ryan
5 Posted 27/01/2022 at 11:15:11
Laurie, he did an interview recently where he talked about being offered two jobs in the Premier League and others in the Championship and his answer was that he was waiting for the right project to come up. He had been visiting coaching schools around Europe and re-assessing things and waiting for the right job. He said I'm not going to jump straight back into the wrong job where I feel it is the wrong fit.

If he sees Everton as the right project long term then surely that's a good thing isn't it? If everything he said is a total lie then we'll never believe anyone but that is essentially what he said.

He clearly doesn't want to be a butterfly manager moving from club to club to club. If you are older you can afford to move around. You don't have serious family considerations to think about. Neil Warnock, Fat Sam etc will move anywhere won't they. Their wives don't give a shit, the monies rolling in, they get some peace and quiet etc.

I think he sees us as a real prospect for success. I get less than that from a Pereira appointment. I see that for him as cash, cash, cash and if I fail, who gives a shit, I'll be loaded.

I don't see Lampard as that kind of person or at that stage of what he wants to be a successful career in football management, the same as Gerrard at AstonVilla. He's not there for the money but it's just my opinion.

Trevor Peers
6 Posted 27/01/2022 at 11:25:04
He's not a perfect fit. But at least Lampard has some redeeming features, he's got Premier League experience, works well with younger players, seems to have some influence in the transfer market etc. Give him a contract to be reviewed in the summer. If the worst happens, he's had experience in the championship too.

Pereira on the other hand, seems to be another mercenary looking to make easy £millions, and will disappear at the first whiff of failure.

Ian Nulty
7 Posted 27/01/2022 at 11:28:14
Should Frank Lampard be appointed (and he is my hope), there is Uncle 'arry, that well known loveable cockerney, jungle king and sometime football manager, Mister Harold Rednapp, at the end of a phone to consult with and certainly speak about potential Tottenham players with transfer opportunities, yes?

Tongue in cheek – Maybe Graeme Sharp, to earn his corn as we have not heard one word from his since his elevation to the Boardroom, can then open negotiations with Mr. Abramovich at Stamford Bridge to transfer the banner proclaiming "Frank Lamprad – Chelsea Legend", which has perpetual placing on "The Shed End" stand for resiting at Goodison Park, with the necessary amendments of course!

As Larry David would say, "Prrrittty, prrritty goood".

Sorry, fellow TWers, you gotta have a laugh throughout this awful campaign or you would just go mad!!

Peter Neilson
8 Posted 27/01/2022 at 11:29:21
In his own words.

"Yeah, I've been speaking to a couple of clubs at different times," Lampard told Gary Neville during an interview on the Overlap.

"Some didn't feel right for me. I'm not going to go into that because it has gone now. I don't want to sound overly selective either because if you want to be selective in football and look at any job at face value then there would be good and bad about it.

The job is there for a reason. It's open for a reason be it the squad, results - I'm not scared about that. It just needs to feel right, the people you work with. It sounds a little bit cringy but the vision - what do they want from you, the expectations. 

I'm fortunate to be in a place where I want to work but I'm not desperate to work. I want to try and get the right place."

Iain Latchford
9 Posted 27/01/2022 at 11:35:38
Being reported that Lampard has a second interview.

What have they being doing for the last week??? Surely in any high profile job (or any job for that matter), you draw up a list of candidates, interview them, then make a shortlist for second interview. Then, if for whatever reason your first choice doesn't take the job, you have backup waiting.

We've seemingly already decided on Pereira, then due to the backlash have panicked and pulled the plug. Now going back to Lampard. It's all just shockingly unprofessional.

Brian Hennessy
10 Posted 27/01/2022 at 11:55:36
I agree totally that the key to us surviving this season or not rests on us signing at least two decent central midfielders before Monday night.

With that in mind, I'm nailing my colours to the mast and saying we should try to get Frank Lampard in my the end of the day. His contacts and knowledge of the English game mean for me that he is our best chance of signing the two players we need before the deadline.

Separately, and I know it won't happen, but I would love to get Idrissa Gueye back on loan for the rest of the season if PSG could spare him for a few months.

Brendan McLaughlin
11 Posted 27/01/2022 at 11:59:16
Frank Lampard

"It (his next job) just needs to feel right, the people you work with. It sounds a little bit cringy but the vision - what do they want from you, the expectations. "

Does it sound like he's describing Everton?

Si Pulford
12 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:00:26
Best of a bad bunch for me.
Peter Carpenter
13 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:11:11
Why do they need a second interview? What did they fail to find out at the first? Did Watford interview Hodgson twice, Villa with Gerard?

This just highlights the incompetence and confusion of a dysfunctional club. They need a blast of reality, this is not one of the top jobs in world football – it's a mess. They will put candidates off with their farcical antics.

Daniel A Johnson
14 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:16:28
Obvious why there is 2nd interview – the first was with Moshiri on his Todd, I bet.

Tim Kells
15 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:21:04
Agree, Peter ,but the trouble is there's not one football person on the panel and making the decision. Totally incompetent the lot of them.

For example, you'd have thought that they would have had a shortlist before firing Benitez – I mean, you could see in December that the writing was on the wall.

Daniel A Johnson
16 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:23:48
You think any club would have a managerial go-to list on the flux in case they fired someone, but oh no... not EFC.
David Bromwell
17 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:24:51
Sounds like better news, although why he would like to come is a puzzle to me.

Given our lack of midfield options he could even play. But let's hope that he is in place before the weekend and if he comes he will certainly have my full support as I he he was very unlucky to be sacked by Chelsea.

It will be an enormous job for anybody given the mess the club is currently in. So let's get him appointed and get back to playing football, all the news from the last few days has been embarrassing for our once successful and respected club.

Peter Carpenter
18 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:25:14
Daniel (#14),

You could be right. They are probably all interviewing their favourites separately. Fans of other clubs must be logging in with glee for a daily laugh at all of this.

What was that cringeworthy statement from Kenwright: 'What would Everton do?' Do the opposite and you'll be okay.

Paul Cherrington
19 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:40:43
If he gets it then I will support him as Everton manager but don't see why you would give someone with no connection to the club/fans and not lots of experience the job over Dunc? Or even Rooney?

People talk about the big man not having enough experience for the permanent manager's job but Lampard does not have much more himself. If we are going to go relatively untested, why not go with Dunc – someone who gets the club and will unite us all?

Andrew Bradshaw
20 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:41:41
The way we are dithering, we will end up with Frank Sidebottom!! (younger ones, Google).

On a more worrying note, looks like the barcodes are going to get Guimaeres and more than likely Dan Burn from Brighton. Our game against them is looking more and more like the match of our season. We really need to get someone in place and beg, borrow or steal some midfield reinforcements.

Alex Gray
21 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:45:30
Lampard isn’t the worst option at this point. Get him in asap and sign some players!!
Raymond Fox
22 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:46:37
I'll take Lampard he should know what there is to know about football.

If he gets the job, supporters need to get real about what is possible with this squad of players.

We have made ourselves a laughing stock with changing the manager every time there's a protest.

John Graham
23 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:51:18
He wouldn't have been the first on my list but, looking at all of the options mentioned, he is starting to look like the best one available.

What he has got going for him is that he is young, has new ideas, likes to give youth a chance, did well at derby but probably the Chelsea job came too early for him.

Would be interesting to see what he can get out of what is basically a bunch of failed players who lack attacking ideas.

If you get the job, Frank, then good luck to you, you're going to need lots of it.
COYB

Gary Jones
24 Posted 27/01/2022 at 12:54:20
Newcastle are clearly going to be a very different team in the second half of the season…..yes, we need to take points against them, but we need that in every game.

We really need to hope we can drag Brentford, Palace and Leeds into this, and that we finish ahead of 3 of them + Watford, Burnley and Norwich.

That can be done, but not without a fit midfield. Gomes, Allan and Gbamin need complimenting quickly before Monday. A central defensive midfielder, a box-to-box or a passer. Doesn't matter, we need at least one.

Joe McMahon
25 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:01:41
I wanted him in the Summer. Hope this happens?
Dennis Stevens
26 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:07:44
Still reckon that, after all the dithering, they'll probably settle on bringing "our Wayne" back from Derby County.
Mick O'Malley
27 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:11:47
Whoever comes in must be given time, even if the worst scenario plays out this season. I'm hoping it's Lampard, and he can get us a couple on loan.

Loftus-Cheek would do for starters, I'd also swallow my pride and welcome Barkley back – they are both head and shoulders above the current incumbents.

Eddie Dunn
28 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:12:04
So much conjecture. I presume the second interview is because the first one was just with a club official in London or on Zoom. Who knows!

He is a man who has intelligence, and he is a good communicator. He was a midfielder and has lots of footy contacts. This would be just what we need. He might bring some sanity to the cuckoo's nest.

Chris Leyland
29 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:23:47
Mick,

We already have El Ghazi on loan which means we are only allowed one other loan signing under Premier League rules.

Robert Tressell
30 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:25:16
Dave,

I did wonder whether the Dobbin news signalled that Lampard had already got the job.

Out of a lot of mediocre options, this is looking like the best outcome. I'm not convinced – but I do think he's a better fit than others who seem closely linked. Keep us in the Premier League, Mr Lampard.

Tony Everan
31 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:31:05
Chris, We may loan out our loanee and create room for a more needed midfielder loan. I’m joking but I don’t know what to rule out any more!
John Boswell
32 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:32:29
It appears that there is general agreement that we need to find some reinforcements for our midfield. Frank Lampard must be a good bet to get our engine room firing along with the rest of the team. We can but hope.COYB.
Nicholas Ryan
33 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:32:37
Trevor Peers [6]

'You took the words right out of my mouth' – as the recently-departed and much-lamented Meatloaf [RIP] would have said!!

John Raftery
34 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:34:28
I see Lampard (13%) is behind Duncan (22%) and Potter (30%) in the TW poll.

Fans didn't like Big Fat Sam and the Fat Spanish Waiter. What will they make of Fat Frankie?!

Dave Abrahams
35 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:37:35
Robert (@32),

I haven't got a clue but it could make a big difference because of Lampards's ranking as an English international footballer. Not dismissing him as a manager; if he signs, I, obviously, hope that he gets us out of this desperate position we are in.

I would imagine he is a better choice than the man from Portugal but I haven't got a clue about him other than he seems to be foisted on us by a very dodgy, money grabbing agent.

I think a lot of us are in the dark with nearly all matters about the club, delighted or very disappointed when the news finally comes out.

Nicholas Ryan
36 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:38:53
One advantage of Lampard is that, if we're short of midfielders, he could always dash along to Sports Direct, buy a cheap pair of boots and roll his sleeves up!
Stephen Brown
37 Posted 27/01/2022 at 13:51:11
I wasn't keen to begin with but now I'm all got it!

Young, hungry, ambitious, point to prove, worked with youngsters, knows how a midfield works, big name, intelligent and clearly wants the job despite the crazy ongoings!

We need this done today and 2 midfielders signed by Monday. Maybe from Chelsea? Loftus-Cheek??

Mark Ryan
40 Posted 27/01/2022 at 14:06:32
John @36 The poll started weeks ago and so the voting is well skewed. It was done before Potter said "no ta "
I suspect if it went out again Potter would have 2%
Not the reason for me wanting to post
CAUTION
We need to apply some caution to the Lampard appointment if it happens
Possible scenario
Lampard initially asked to have his own backroom staff and that's why Kenwright and Moshiri cooled on him ie no place for Duncan
If this second interview is all about the Duncan factor ie "please Frank can you let him stay and be part" and Lampard says "thanks but no thanks" we have to apply some common sense amongst us Evertonians and I'm talking about those hell bent on having Duncan as our Boss.
If the appointment goes through quickly followed by the news " Duncan Ferguson departs Everton" I think we need to see that as a good thing for Duncan and not divorce papers.
I'm worried some will see that as a massive falling out between him and Lampard and I think we need to apply some caution and not to immediately get the bed sheets out.
He could drop into the Championship and earn his spurs.
Just saying before we have uproar. Something to consider
John Cook
41 Posted 27/01/2022 at 14:12:05
Hasn't got an affinity with the Club or fans ? I would argue,like Gerrard, he fuckin scored enough goals against us that gives him a strange kind of link with us
I think if Frank comes we have been very lucky,he can pick a player,will have them playing on the front foot and more importantly,he will strengthen and play through the midfield.Anyone who plays the game to knows that's where a game's won.A no brainer,get Frank before someone else does
Brian Harrison
42 Posted 27/01/2022 at 14:23:00
I see this new refreshing idea from Moshiri that he will be better at communicating with the fans is working well. Why would you need to interview people twice, surely in the first interview you would have asked all the questions you needed answering. Or does this just highlight the total incompetence of our owners to run a club properly?

Despite Abramovich sacking managers on a regular basis cant remember him having a list of candidates, he sacked one manager and replaced him with another very quickly. Likewise, Levy at Spurs sacks a manager one day and announces his replacement a day or so later, it's called forward planning, not the Moshiri has ever done forward planning.

So we have 4 days left of the last transfer market before the end of the season, and we still haven't appointed a manager who can get a player or 2 on loan as seems to be the only option available to us.

The sacking of Benitez couldn't have been done at a better time, as we had over a fortnight before we played another league game so, if the appointment had been made swiftly, he would have had plenty of time to assess the squad, and make any moves in the market he saw fit.

Right now, I wouldn't know who the clowns that run our club will appoint or when they will make that appointment. But knowing this pair, I wouldn't mind betting it's after the window closes.

Bill Fairfield
43 Posted 27/01/2022 at 14:23:59
No matter who the new manager is, someone will have reservations about him. The only way you can judge is purely on the results they get once they’re here. So give Dunc the job till the end of the season or appoint a new manager. Just get on with it!
Jamie Crowley
44 Posted 27/01/2022 at 14:31:24
Duncan is out of the running. He's either removed himself, or isn't being considered.

Someone needs to do a deep dive into Duncan's purpose and role at Everton, if he is content to hide in the shadows. But that's for another day.

Frank Lampard simply has to be the choice. This Pereira fella doesn't even have the job, went rogue, and jumped on the radio waves to basically sell himself. This kind of personality is NOT needed in a relegation scrap. He's a fucking nutter, and has accomplished the whole sum of fuck all when you look at what he's done, where, and with which Club. I'm sorry, but winning two years in the Turkish league after years of domination, and then getting canned / leaving when the tea leaves and table clearly read you're not going to three-peat and you've overseen a gradual decline away from the top? That's not a real stellar record. And this is the premier league, with a team fighting for it's life. SOME familiarity with the league would be nice in this situation. And if any of my Pereira career stats above are wrong, somebody correct me on the specifics, but the over-arching point still stands.

Frank will get us playing good football. His Chelsea teams I really, really enjoyed watching. I kept thinking if Chelsea were patient, they had a former player-now manager legend in the making. Of course, being Chelsea, patience isn't a virtue.

I think Frank has it in him to be one of England's better managers when all is said and done many moons from now. We need to hire this guy and start to build a playing style and identity under him.

The other fella's a fraud. The rest of the options are "hell no" or they honestly aren't interested and we'd need to "pull a Koeman" to get them here. That equates to a hard pass.

Frank, all day, it's obvious to me.

Jerome Shields
45 Posted 27/01/2022 at 14:44:31
Lampard is the best available.He may get Everton playing good football, which is a start.Fortunately contracts are ending in the Summer for some players.Maybe he might get midfield organised and know a player who can help.Though I think it will be a loan rather than a transfer.

But Everton.needs alots of changes in the Management of the Club.A Manager will.not be able to do that.IMO the Supporters would get behind Lampard, taking the Manager out of the equation.for necessary change, and give some consistency to the playing side.

Confrontation by using the Manager to push through change did not work.

James Marshall
46 Posted 27/01/2022 at 14:55:10
When they say he's having a second interview today, surely with everything that's gone on, what they really mean is that he's coming to the club today to sign a contract? (they just can't say that).

Given that Everton seem to have said they're making an appointment by the weekend, and given that Pereira made a fool of himself on Sky yesterday, Lampard being at the club today smacks of contract talks, not whether he wants the job.

He obviously wants the job, otherwise why would be be talking to the club again?

I reckon it's a done deal and he'll be Everton manager before the weekend.

Steve Shave
47 Posted 27/01/2022 at 14:57:06
https://ifunny.co/picture/frank-lampard-to-be-interviewed-by-everton-for-vacant-manager-LaXJ6ItF9
Jamie Crowley
48 Posted 27/01/2022 at 14:57:40
James -

Good points, fully agree, let's hope so!

But Jesus above, what we've seen from this shower of shite and circus, I feel like literally anything can happen.

Rob Halligan
49 Posted 27/01/2022 at 15:00:00
Simon Jordan seems to be spouting his mouth off about all this on talksport. Simple question………………..

WTF has it got to do with him?

Paul Jones
50 Posted 27/01/2022 at 15:00:09
I don't know the full merits of either Pereira or Lampard, but I find it worrying that the board appear to have flipped from one to the other on the basis of some graffiti, or perhaps some focused discontent from a number of supporters gathered outside the ground.

I'm not decrying either of these 2 forms of protest, but why is the board so pathetic? I wonder if the graffiti had mentioned Mike Bassett instead of Lampard would we have had sky sports stationed outside Finch Farm reporting that Ricky Tomlinson had turned up to be met with the warmest of welcomes by a teary Kenshite, who would claim the only reason Benitez was ever appointed was to get the fans used to a red in the dugout.

Mark Ryan
51 Posted 27/01/2022 at 15:08:41
Jamie Crowley @ 46 you've had me laughing with your 3rd paragraph. Your summing up of Pereira, stellar.
It's certainly the impression I get of the man, he comes across like a desperate Yozzer Hughes type.
If we had him it wouldn't be quiet but we'd be fucked I think
Thanks for making me laugh
Matthew Johnson
52 Posted 27/01/2022 at 15:21:16
During the threads discussing who would be manager before Benitez was appointed I was asking why Lampard wasn't being seriously mentioned as a potential for the role, and now he looks like a real potential prospect.

I'd still be happy to give him a try.

Stu Darlington
53 Posted 27/01/2022 at 15:28:17
I have absolutely no idea who our next manager should be so I am not championing Lampards case over anyone else’s
That said he’s been around the premiership for long enough to know what the problems are at Everton and if he still thinks that this club feels it is the right fit for him he must have seen something he can work with.
I don’t get the sense that he is simply a money grabber,so there must be something else motivating him. I hope it’s a desire to succeed,build a reputation as a top manager,take Everton into Europe,whatever it may be
Any appointment must be made now, to give us at least a chance of strengthening the midfield before the window closes and who knows he may have players who respect him enough to follow him here.
A longer term problem may surface when he realises the calibre of the board he has to work with !
Alan Johnson
54 Posted 27/01/2022 at 15:45:37
Given that this once great club has now become a laughing stock. I think we would be lucky to get Lampard...

Fingers crossed he comes.

Nick Page
55 Posted 27/01/2022 at 15:53:14
More likely to get fuckin Frank Sidebottom than ex-Chelsea multi trophy winning manager
Peter Mills
56 Posted 27/01/2022 at 15:58:56
Frank and his dad have caused us plenty of heartache, they owe us.
Rob Birks
57 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:03:35
Here's a thought. Just a thought.
Now, saying it's true that Bill says to Lampard 'you will have to have Duncan as part of his staff'
If Duncan cares and loves EFC so much wouldn't he say 'okay, for the welfare of the club and it's aspirations I'll move away?'
WHAT do you think?
Brian Williams
58 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:06:10
Rob#59
Rob that would depend on Lampard's answer surely?
Jay Harris
59 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:08:29
I think Lampard is the best of a bad shortlist but he may surprise us.

My main concern is that his Chelsea team leaked goals for fun so what the hell is he gonna do with our lot.

Rob Birks
60 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:10:24
Misse3d that point out Brian. Let's take it as a taken that Lampard only wants his own staff!
Joe McMahon
61 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:17:40
Jay @61 that's harsh. Frank Lampard is respected in European football. He's young and hungry, our last 2 managers were called dinosaurs. He has scored more goals than any Everton player (please don't say Dixie) and he wasn't even a striker.
Marc Hints
62 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:18:20
well according to reliable sources on Twitter it will be Frank Lampard as manager
Duncan McDine
63 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:21:02
Clever trick to make us all think we’re having yet another perennially sacked foreign manager, just to lower expectations, and then raise our spirits at the 11th hour with a less dreadful choice! I don’t think any one of us would’ve been overjoyed at the thought of Lampard just a few days ago, but the board/owner/media have worked their magic and all of a sudden Frank is the Messiah!!!
Graham Mockford
64 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:22:18
The Bobble is saying Lampard is in advanced negotiations, he’s got a pretty good track record on knowing what’s going on.

For me it’s an ambitious appointment but not without risk of course. But he always struck me as an intelligent and thoughtful type, he was a leader on the pitch and he has football in his blood.

Got to be better than the feller who got a side relegated to Germany’s third tier.

Jay Evans
65 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:23:22
Marc 64 I’m hearing the same. Announced in the next 48 hours on a 3 & 1/2 year deal ?

Can anyone confirm please ?

Ken Kneale
66 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:27:01
Peter - 58 - that is very true - both have scored wonderful goals against us sadly, often a crucial times within a season or a game.

I want in the first instance to get an Everton team that aims for a place in the top six by playing good football - that would be a return to the Everton I grew up supporting.

To retain the West Ham theme, in the excellent book about Harry Catterick, there is one tale of Ron Greenwood approaching Harry after a game at Upton Park and saying "wow - what wonderful stuff" after an Everton victory - given the credentials of Greenwood at the time as a lover of attractive football, that was praise indeed after a defeat. Oh for those days to return at some point.

Stephen Vincent
67 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:29:17
Rob, His assistant at Chelsea was Jody Morris, who I have heard nothing of since he left Chelsea at the same time as Lampard (seem to remember he was a bit wild), I think accused of sexual assault whilst at Leeds. But that was a long time ago. Lampard's other assistant at Chelsea was Eddie Newton, who was manager of Trabzonspor in Turkey, don't know if he still is. So maybe a position for Dunc to continue all the good work!!!!!!
Brian Murray
68 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:32:11
Peter post 58 very dark and tearful night that fa semi replay as a kid in 1980. Im sure his dad will tell him it was like a home match with over three quarter of the ground blue and white. No wonder the prick danced round the corner flag he had no fans to run to hardly. Good luck frank jnr coyb
Rob Halligan
69 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:34:25
Jay # 67. I've Just read a Twitter account "Finch Farm Insider", who says Lampard is expecting the green light today and has already started to assemble his backroom staff. I usually take Twitter with a pinch of salt, so let's see what happens?
Marc Hints
70 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:36:06
Jay #67

Yes thats what I have seen, its come from a source on twitter that have been spot on so far with other Everton stories

Shane Corcoran
71 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:38:25
1/20 now with Paddy Power

Even allowing for the madness of such markets, he looks likely.

Dermot O'Brien
72 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:39:06
Lampard is favourite with the online bookies (1/7) - although I hate those c*nts, they usually know "something"
Colin Glassar
73 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:41:40
Will Lampard bring all his mates from London as his back room staff? Scousers and cockneys tend not to get on together.
Brian Murray
74 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:41:47
Don’t tell me Dunc lives to ride another day on the blue gravy train. Defo a moggy in another life that fella.
Barry Hesketh
75 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:42:54
Alan Myers Tweeted earlier this afternoon that he believes any appointment will be made by Sunday - Mind you he didn't indicate exactly which Sunday.
Joe McMahon
76 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:46:33
Colin, no need to worry on that score, have yu been to London recently? There are no Cockneys anymore.
Ed Prytherch
77 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:51:57
I hope that this news is real because we certainly need it.

Regarding Duncan, I like him, he loves the club and he has given his all whenever he has had the opportunity since he joined the staff. He may even be capable of keeping us up but we need a permanent manager asap and he is not the one.
As much as I rate him I can see why Lampard (or Rooney) does not want him as an assistant. The new manager must quickly gain the loyalty of the players and having Duncan around would make that job harder. Some of the players, DCL for instance, have had a very good relationship with Duncan and that could be a distraction for Frank. I think that it is important the the club treat Duncan with respect in how they deal with his reassignment or exit if they are to avoid pissing off more of his fans within and outside the club.

Kieran Kinsella
78 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:52:28
Lampard apparently helped develop Mason Mount. He could be a good influence on Gordon.
Derek Moore
79 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:54:12
Betfair - which crucially isn't a bookmaker but rather an exchange - is running a market on the next Everton manager. This fact would explain a good chunk of the lies, disinformation and utter bullshit flying around the appointment.

At one stage for example Vitor was 1/4 but is now out to 4/1. Lampard is now at 1/4. Kovacs (and Rooney) are both at 13/1.

As Betfair is an exchange you can both back and lay, and unlike a bookie there's no gubbing accounts or limiting stakes to small amounts. The potential then for chicanery is obviously enormous, and the motivation to do so self evident.

Start a rumour, get it in a national tabloid and count your profits. It's just about creating steam and causing the drift in punting parlance.

Will be interesting to see who eventually gets the job, and what price Betfair was offering. The beguiling diversity of choices and seeming pivots from one possible candidate to another should also be viewed through this prism as well.

Yes the club is poorly run and incompetent, but a lot of the shite we've been hearing almost certainly had nothing whatsoever to do with the club itself. Rumours from "reliable sources" within the club might also be given a grain or six of salt before consumption either. Starting a false rumour and laying the steam would be the only way to profit off inside information and not spend the rest of your days looking over your shoulder for the fraud squad.



Rob Halligan
80 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:54:50
Might start getting some VAR decisions in our favour, seeing as Lampard is an ex player of one of the so called top six teams!
Mark Ryan
81 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:58:48
We all knew this morning that a second interview with Lampard was imminent. It's now 16:56 hrs
Do you think that when Kenwright and Moshiri woke up this morning they thought to themselves, "do you know what, let's interview him at 5 o'clock" we've other stuff to do first ??
In the days of ZOOM, MS Teams, surely this does not need to be face to face or in Bills office wearing Coronation Street face masks.
Why the delay in making an announcement ? We need players and we need them now. Talk about prevaricating around the bush.
Perhaps they've gone "up the smoke" to meet him on "his manor".
What's occurring gents, dinner and petit fours at The Ivy, take in a show, perhaps " One man two Guvnors" seems appropriate.
C'mon fells pull your fat fingers out, times a ticking for deadline day
Peter Carpenter
82 Posted 27/01/2022 at 16:59:58
Barry (77) Sunday is the name of Mr Moshiri's dog.
Tony Everan
83 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:04:51
Opportunity for Duncan now to get a Championship club and prove himself.
Sam Hoare
84 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:09:34
Hmmm. I like the idea of Lampard; a young British manager with a modern approach who develops youngsters. Just not sure I like the reality of Lampard, a manager who failed to get a strong Derby team containing the likes of Mason Mount and Tomori into the top 5 of the Championship.

Our defense is a mess and Lampard found ways to make even the likes of Thiago Silva and Rudiger look shakey.

Hopefully he’s learnt a lot in the last year or because I don’t see his work at Derby or Chelsea as being that promising. It seems a big risk to me (though every manager is) and I’d have plucked for someone a bit more proven myself (I hope they at least sounded out Favre).

Barry Hesketh
85 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:12:23
A snapshot of Frank at the end of March, if he takes over at Goodison.

Frank Lampard Future
Alan J Thompson
86 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:16:32
Why are they holding a second interview with him? Probably to ask if he's been painting things on the walls at Goodison.
Kieran Kinsella
87 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:21:26
Could be another Tim Sherwood. One year at a London club. Harshly sacked. Joins a mismanaged struggling ailing giant in February. Ends in tears.
Fran Mitchell
88 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:22:07
If Lampard had been made favourite straight away, there would have been uproar.

But first go for Martinez, and well, we had a sit-in protest to remove him 6 years ago, so that didn't go down well.

Then we are linked with Rooney, and well, the inexperienced former Manchester United legend cutting his teeth at a struggling Premier League club didn't quite fill us with confidence.

Then go for a looney Portuguese with a questionable track record and even more questionable temperement.

Add in some strange interviews with managers from China with our favourite agent representing them.

All of a sudden Lampard is the golden boy, the man to lead us to greatness, our white knight.

Like sam says above,the idea of Lampard is appealing: young, progressive and someone to build over a number of years. But yes, his tactical knowledge was brought into question when at Chelsea, and their defence was terrible (considering the players). Does that write him off? Not necesserily, again, not being good enough to win the league or champions league doent mean he's not good enough for us we're in a very different situation.

He was out of his depth at Chelsea, and competing against seasoned winners in Guardiola and Klopp. At Everton he's not competing with them, he's (immediately) competing with Dyche, Howe and co, and in medium term (hopefully), with Moyes, Potter, Gerrard, Lage and co.

Nick Page
89 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:22:21
If it is Frankie Frank Lampard jnr then the club really has to do something about the Ferguson situation. It can’t carry on for his sake and ours. Is he skint, does he have other problems? Why won’t he take the managers job? Move him to the u23’s? Make him a NED (lol)? Any job but he surely can’t keep being first team coach…..can he? Obviously he loves the club, we all do, but that doesn’t mean they owe us a living. Genuinely I have no idea but it’s a very curious situation.
Julian Exshaw
90 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:22:54
If it is to be Frank Lampard it will do our reputation no harm. He is a likeable and media friendly character and God knows we need this now. I would worry that he has gained favour among fans and is being chosen because there's 'no one else' and is better than VP, but let's see. Put it this way, I am far more enthusiastic about him being offered the job than the last incumbent, that's for sure!
Brendan McLaughlin
91 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:23:47
Athletic reporting another round of interviews tomorrow with both Lampard and Pereira sill in the running...
Graham Mockford
92 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:27:41
Brendan

The Athletic. Clickbait and nothing else

Derek Taylor
93 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:29:06
Kenwright got Duncan out of deep shit when he brought him back to his 'spiritual home '- Everton. He probably said something like 'You'll will always have a job here as long as I'm Chairman and probably put it in the contract of sale to Moshiri/Usmanov. We all know BIll is a man of his word, don't we ?
Mike Gaynes
94 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:31:39
Fran #90, amen, great comment.

Actually, you've hit on something.

Maybe Mosh had Lampard in mind all along... and executed a carefully considered plan of interviewing various numpties so that we'd welcome Lampard as a savior.

Wow, Mosh is brilliant.

Barry Hesketh
95 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:32:27
Brendan @93
According to the same report, Moshiri is expected to help conduct the interviews. Tomorrow, as the board sit there wondering who Moshiri will decide upon, he asks his chauffer to come into the room and as the bloke takes his hat and false-beard off, the board are aghast to see that Big Sam is waving a fat five year contract in his hand - "Alroit Bill, bet yo didn't expect to see me here did yo?" "Hey Sammy! Come on see the look on Bill's face!"


Everton will conduct their latest round of managerial interviews on Friday, with Frank Lampard and Vitor Pereira still both in the frame to replace Rafa Benitez.

It is believed that Everton owner Farhad Moshiri is returning to the United Kingdom for the next round of interviews as the Premier League side continue to search for a new manager.

Dennis Stevens
96 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:36:00
Despite all this switching from one hot favourite to another & then another & so on, I see the Beeb state: "Derby County manager and former Everton striker Wayne Rooney is also on the shortlist although he appears to be the outsider." Worth a fiver?
Phil Smith
97 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:37:08
I met Frank once 15 years ago or so and he was very likeable and also very intelligent. He's the kind of guy that people can get behind. Was never gonna work out for him at Chelsea and he swearved Watford for that same reason. If he's really thought about it and wants to manage us then I'd have confidence in him doing the job, as long as we give him time and don't fire him during the first rocky patch, as we have done lately. Look at Arteta. Imagine if the fired him a couple of months ago.
Will Mabon
98 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:37:33
"Frank Lampard's Everton".
Stephen Leddy
99 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:38:56
Peter 58...well said we need Frank and Duncan to sort out this mess
Jamie Crowley
100 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:39:53
Colin @ 75 -

We've got like what, two Scousers on the squad with Davies and JJK?

Even if Everton see an influx of Cockneys, who are they going to offend?? It's two players everyone on TW wants rid of FFS!

😂

Brendan McLaughlin
101 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:40:01
Dennis #98
Best bet is Duncan each way as he's sure to be placed...money from America!
Will Mabon
102 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:42:05
Jamie - Anthony Gordon.
Phill Thompson
103 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:45:06

This from ElBobble on Twitter. He's been early and right on Simms and Dobbin this week.

The Bobble
@ElBobble
·
1h
Everton and Frank Lampard are in advanced negotiations to appoint the former Chelsea and England player as the new Everton manager, after another interview. Terms are now to be discussed between the two parties.

Jamie Crowley
104 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:45:42
Julian @ 92 -

I think people will warm to Frank very, very quickly. He's a manager that won't fracture the fanbase, or just flat piss them off.

I've said this often, but man the style of football he played at Chelsea would be SO welcome at Goodison after just years of turgid shit.

Others have pointed out, and I think it is very valid, he did leak goals. I've seen Evertonians turn on managers who do so in the past, and I'm a bit concerned about it. But I do NOT think Lampard is akin to a Bobby Brown Shoes in the least.

I'm very excited about this appointment if it comes off, which I pray it will.

Jamie Crowley
105 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:46:38
Will -

Jesus how do I miss that?

Barry Rathbone
106 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:47:35
Apparently Mosh has gone from not listening to fans over Benitez to soiling his pants over the Vitor reaction. Is it possible he can get any weirder?
John Raftery
107 Posted 27/01/2022 at 17:57:52
Phil (99) Little doubt about Frank’s intelligence. I read somewhere he gained an A* in GCSE Latin. That might raise the tone of conversations at Finch Farm. I look forward to hearing him announce ‘Opus lusoribus’…..’We need new players’.

I failed Latin GCE O level miserably.

Dennis Stevens
108 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:01:09
At least he can't claim to be ignorant of the Club motto, John
Peter Neilson
110 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:04:47
Hopefully he’ll translate nil satis nisi optimum for Moshiri.
Alexander Murphy
111 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:06:50
Nicola Cortese for CEO
Nicola Cortese for CEO
Nicola Cortese for CEO
Nicola Cortese for CEO
Nicola Cortese for CEO
Nicola Cortese for CEO
Nicola Cortese for CEO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Cortese

He rebuilt Southampton from despair

Bin bill & ben & little weed

Give Nicola Cortese the brief and stick with him
HANDS away.

Otherwise, Everton you're Titanic

Brian Wilkinson
113 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:07:04
I was all for Dunc taking it, until the end of the season.

I would like to know if he has not been considered, or has made it known he does not want the job.

If it is the latter then we need to move him on and let Frank or whoever gets the job, bring their own number two in.

If they have not considered him, then the same again, on both accounts we need to know why.

Frank seems like the logical choice of the ones available.

Raymond Fox
114 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:09:24
Whoever is appointed manager, I prefer Lampard, the owner needs to decide who is running this club, him or protesting fans.
The next manager should get two seasons regardless of how we finish this one, to build some kind of stategy.

Shame about Doucoure we will miss him, plus we are still without the Icelander.
I still think we will stay up comfortably even with our present injuries, call me complacent if you want but a couple of wins will see us well up the table.

Mark Ryan
115 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:10:15
John @109
So long come derby day he's shouting
" ineat mecum singulare certamen rubrum merde, vincero Evertonium" that'll do for me
Danny O’Neill
116 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:13:06
I won't change my previous view, I'm on the fence. I think he'll be good for promoting the earlier introduction of younger players, which some could argue could be risky in our current situation. But they what we've been doing hasn't worked and Lampard will have the respect of all the players I've no doubt.

Also, as irrelevant as this seems, it's a name the media love. It put's Everton in the eye for the right reasons. He is nationally popular. I feel dirty for saying it, but a good PR move.

It's interesting because this is similar to Villa appointing Gerrard. I'm probably over-analysing, but had Lampard come to someone like Everton after Derby, he would still be on course for his dream job as Gerrard still is.

On the fence, but willing to give this a chance as I always do. Well, what else can I do?

Mike Gaynes
117 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:15:46
Jamie and Danny, I hated Lampard when he played against us.

I want a manager that other people hate.

If Frank is that, I'm all for it.

Ed Prytherch
118 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:16:32
Derek #95 What was the "deep shit" that Duncan was in when Kenshite brought him back?
Tom Bowers
119 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:17:01
Funny people should mention Southampton.
This is one club that has for years produced or sold on many top players and yet are still a decent attractive team to watch.

They may never have won anything but they still keep producing good players.

Luke Welch
120 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:18:23
If Alli signs up too, and Frank can get the best out of him, it might just work.

If Keane, Holgate, Iwobi, Gomes, never play for us again, and the youngsters replace them, I'm all for it.

Mike Dolan
121 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:18:50
if it is Lampard then we have got the best manage available right now

. Now clear the decks for him to bring in his own coaching staff and hire a DOF who answers only to Moshiri.

If we can get this over the line all of the angst will have been worth it.

Brian Wilkinson
122 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:19:30
Ed, he was bankrupt and skint, Everton gave him a job to help him, sorry to jump in on your question
Tom Bowers
123 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:22:17
Not even sure about Lampard. His one season at Chelski doesn't impress me as the team was ready made and the money was there but another season or two may have been a better endorsement.
Trevor Cotterell
124 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:22:59
John #109 - then he'll understand Nil satis nisi optimum. At least that's a start. (I did consider posting on here in latin!)

Yes - I'm with the majority, I think. But I've been saying Lampard for ages (assuming we can't get Zidane). Sadly NSNO isn't an option for us with everything right now - we're going to have to move towards it... He may not be perfect but I think he'll do more to get a youngsters going than many of the others - and we need that. OK he failed to with the quadruple at Chelsea, lost a few matches and was sacked. It happens. I'll settle for a treble. Frankly (see what I did there?) I'll settle for 16th at the end of the season, by which time lots of contracts have expired and we have time, and FFP capacity, to make changes.

I understand people wanting Dunc. I understand people not wanting him (as manager) too. Doesn't matter - it's clearly not happening. My view? Some people are great cheerleaders but not necessarily great leaders. I suspect the manager/coach's job requires a bit more management. Both things matter to us for different reasons.

One thing no-one's talking about is Baines. He needs to chance to develop our defence a bit better and if memory serves, Lampard will know him well from the England set-up and I think that'll help. No idea if I'll be proved right though!

So let's get this done, and give a proven midfielder (you have to give him that!) the chance to bring in someone before Monday ends. If he brings Terry with him, so much the better. You want passion - I suspect he'd have the same impact of our defence as Dunc has on the offence

Will Mabon
125 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:25:49
Danny,

make no mistake, not everyone in big-six Cosyville will like the idea of a "Good London boy" with past connections to one of the big six, coming to Everton. Will cause some mental contradictions in some within the media, whether they show it or not. Could be fun.

Andrew Ellams
126 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:26:17
Lampard must be pretty close to being nailed on to replace Southgate when the time comes so we better pray England don't have a disastrous World Cup.
Danny O’Neill
127 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:26:37
Mike Gaynes, I keep saying it, living in London, there is nothing more insulting to me when supporters of the capital's clubs try to compliment me by saying they don't mind Everton. Generally in football, you're not popular with others if you are successful.

Mike Dolan; can I correct you slightly? Hire a DoF who REPORTS to Moshiri. Not answers. He reports back, informs and updates. "Everything is fine boss, go and enjoy your yacht. Once you've signed off this next cheque. Trust me".

John Graham
128 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:29:24
The thing that sticks in my mind about him was the time he had a go at Klopp on the touch line.
If he promises more of that then the job is his.
Heard today two year contract going to be signed once the back room staff are sorted.
Good luck
You will need it.
COYB
Will Mabon
129 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:33:05
John,

whoever it is finally, two years is a more realistic start if true. We've more than paid our dues with gift contracts.

Colin Glassar
130 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:34:01
Valid point, Jamie.

My only concern with Lampard is he might want uncle ‘arry as DoF and cousin Jamie as his assistant. That would be as bad as seeing Sammy the red goblin on the sidelines!!

Joe McMahon
131 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:37:37
Colin, no he won't. The vile Jamie likes his cozy media work, and Uncle Arry is about 97 and wouldn't leave Sandbanks to go up North even 1 day a month.
John Graham
132 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:38:25
If he does sign, hopefully he can bring John Terry with him to sort out our defence and maybe Loftus-Cheek.
Alec Gaston
133 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:38:26
Any idea where the Calvert Lewin to Arsenal stuff has come from ?
Stephen Tyler
134 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:39:13
Some years ago when Lampard was in his prime as a player for Chelsea I read an interview with him in a magazine.
He was asked as a player which stadium he hated to play at the most.
His reply was "Goodison Park.
It's hostile and intimidating,the crowd are right on your case the whole time".
Alexander Murphy
135 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:40:09
Appointing ANYONE as manager is meaningless at Everton at present.

Appoint:
Harry Catterick
Howard Kendall mk1
Joe Royle
And
Appoint ALL of the above and they'd bloody struggle.
Simply because mish-mash, silly billy & little weed have created a culture of abject and repeated failure.

Everton need to face up to REALITY and a Manager alone isn't enough.

We need a Boardroom rinsed clean and a Top Drawer CEO able to lead without twiddling hands.

Evertons Boardroom is Miss Haversham
Time for REVOLUTION AND EVOLUTION

Kick OUT SILLY BILLY

Alexander Murphy
136 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:47:47
Danny @29
" Hire a DoF who REPORTS to Moshiri. Not answers. He reports back, informs and updates. "Everything is fine boss, go and enjoy your yacht. Once you've signed off this next cheque. Trust me".

HALLELUYA !!!!

Mosh has BECOME the problem.
BUT
SIlly billy took a thousand years to find "the perfect owner" !!!
By who's standards bill ?
By YOURS bill
NOT Evertons !

Danny O’Neill
137 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:49:47
If that happened Colin, they'd spend more time filming "Game of their Own" or Harry's family based baking adverts.

I do think he could attract a few up and coming players, be that on loan or transfer.

And when we win the FA Cup, he could repeat his and his father's celebration around the corner flag.

Getting ahead of myself considering I'm on the fence with this one.

Mike Gaynes
138 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:50:19
One more point I'd like to make about Lampard that hasn't been touched on here.

We may not know as much as we'd like about his managerial capabilities -- nothing about his Chelsea or Derby experiences is comparable to our situation -- but we do know that he would check one big box that has stood empty at Everton for years.

Leadership.

It's been a long, long time since we had a true leader of men in this club, either on the pitch or on the touchline. A man the players would follow into the line of fire. A Zidane, or a Keane, or a Conte, or a f---ing John Terry. (I always add that word to any mention of Terry.)

Lampard is a man that other men follow. That certainly does not ensure his success, but it would sure as hell be nice to have in the club. For a change.

Kim Vivian
139 Posted 27/01/2022 at 18:51:28
Jamie - just pick you up on a typo in your post 46 which would make your point even more salient...

"...not a real stellar record. And this is the premier league, with a team fighting for it's life..."

Think that should read "...club..." and I really believe that. I think our club is teetering on the brink.

Peter Neilson
142 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:01:10
Alec (135) just a guess but that could be an agent who’s deeply involved in both clubs. His name escapes me.
Brent Stephens
143 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:03:53
Lampard was intelligent as a player, on the pitch, and always seemed to conduct himself well. Unsure of how far that translates for him into a managerial role but wouldn't be unhappy to see him appointed. I'd hope his relatively mild manner wouldn't be an obstacle to getting the players up for a fight - and not just for a few games.
Bill Gienapp
144 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:07:02
Too late Jay (40) - your colors have been nailed to the mast!
David Currie
145 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:08:20
If Lampard gets the job he may bring Anthony Barry with him from Chelsea, he is a highly rated coach who used to play for Everton's youth team.
Dale Self
146 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:13:19
I'm willing to believe in him. The incentive to achieve something here is as important to him as us. I suppose he will be able to solve our impotent midfield crisis and perhaps get us in the market for a true 10. Being a Londoner he will get the initial polite and civil welcome but he's on watch. In addition he has a decent reputation and is stepping into a void as far as organisation operations go. Should he grow into those responsibilities it is unlikely we come out of the Lampard era as dysfunctional as we went in. Ok, I'm in.
Michael Connelly
147 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:13:48
Don't think Frank is the long term answer (then again, not many are at our club), but I think he is the right man to keep us up this season, particularly if he gets in a couple of midfielders before the deadline. Keeping us up this season is the objective.
Alexander Murphy
148 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:14:39
Judas H Priest !

I'm reading continual posts here as you Blues fiddle-faddle about management appointments.

Why ?
No new manager will make any bloody difference at Everton.
NONE.

Because mosh, bill & denise know less than the square root of minus fuckall how to run a scuccessful EPLClub.

Yet, you lot discuss potential managers.
Their pro's & cons.
But.
The overarching factors are.
CRETINS in The Boardroom.

Appoint fuckin Gandalf as manager and the true problem remains identical.

Craig Walker
149 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:15:33
I’d be happy with Lampard. Think he’d give youth players a chance, play decent football and command respect. He has something to prove as well. Get him in. Back him.
Danny O’Neill
150 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:18:39
I don't think his outwardly mild manner would be an issue Brent. You don't achieve and win what he did by being nice.

He was an intelligent player indeed. And he had a hell of a shot on him too. I'm still fuming about Lescott allowing Drogba an olympic long jumper type of run on him for the equaliser, but you couldn't doubt the quality of Lampard's winner.

Dennis Stevens
151 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:20:51
Good points, Alexander, odd that nobody else has picked up on those issues. Where do I sign the petition?
Christy Ring
152 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:21:44
Lampard is definitely the best choice so hopefully Moshiri will finally listen to the fans and come to his senses. He plays a great brand of football always on the front foot, and hopefully bring in a couple of players before Monday, Gilmour?
Sam#96 Disagree with you about his disappointing time at Derby, his first managerial position, they weren't a strong fancied Derby team, they were an ageing team, he brought in Mount and Tomori, young reserves at Chelsea and lost in the playoff final after beating Leeds, to Dean Smith's Villa, which included McGinn, Mings and Grealish. That's an achievement in my opinion.
Joe McMahon
153 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:22:27
I'm not talking about Joey Barton here, but when he stated that David Unsworth doesn't look like a manager, Frank Lampard most definitely does. If it's confirmed, this will be the happiest i've felt about any Everton managerial appointment since Joe Royle (even Carlo, as I felt the job was beyond him).
Barry Hesketh
154 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:22:45
Danny @ 152
Frankie, Mild-mannered? Not in this clip
BTW did you get yourself a ticket for the FA Cup tie? As I went on after your post yesterday and managed to buy one on the club site.

Lampard Rant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1x3XDbfqGg

Peter Carpenter
155 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:23:38
Somebody mentioned 'latest round of interviews' - Jesus... at this rate the new man will have 45 minutes to get a new player in. If the Ferguson issue gets in the way, I will throw myself off the top balcony. JUST GET IT DONE YOU CLOWNS - LAMPARD NOW!
Brent Stephens
156 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:25:46
Danny #152 "You don't achieve and win what he did by being nice."

I think that's make sense, Danny. Not yet appointed but as I say I wouldn't be unhappy with this. Not as if we've got lots of top-end managers queuing up to join us.

Peter Neilson
157 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:26:12
Andrew (128) surely Lee Carsley next England manager.

Anyway Lampard would have to still be with us come the end of the season for that to be an issue.

Gavin Johnson
158 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:27:47
I think you'd call this the lesser of two evils. I'd still like to think this whole Lampard/Periera pantomime has been a cover to bring in an unexpected appointment like Lucian Favre, but I think we all know our board wouldn't think of that.

The benefits I see from Lampard is that he has a good relationship with Chelsea so I would hope he could bring someone like Loftus-Cheek or Barkley, or even both on loan! We can live in hope.

Another benefit I see is that he is a good communicator and should be able to get his views across quickly.

Another positive I see, is that I think he'll immediately have the players respect while I'm not sure that would be the case with Periera.

As for drawbacks, he's not been in this position since he was a player and known as Fat Frank all the way back in his West Ham days.

Even if he does keep us up, I think he'll need to show a sea change in performances, because if Rooney does keeps Derby up he will be seen as the man in waiting for many. This is why I think a 5 month appointment of Favre, and I hate to say it, even Big Sam, would have been the most assured way of keeping us up.

The other negative for Frank is that he's cockney dyed in the wool Tory, but as I say, he's the lesser of two evils for me.

He's not a bad appointment but doesn't strike me as an Everton manager, nor a long term appointment but I could be wrong.

Barry Hesketh
159 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:34:06
Gavin @ 160
It seems as if the field is limited to the two you mention and Duncan Ferguson or at least that's what is being reported on some sites. All three will be interviewed tomorrow, apparently.
Brian Harrison
160 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:36:01
I would love to believe that Lampard will be appointed our new manager tomorrow, but I have got this nagging thought that Moshiri wont want to upset his pal Kia and will appoint Pereira. Then fly back to Monaco and let Kenwright deal with the backlash.

Lets remember all the furore that went on when the fans knew he was talking to Benitez but he still went ahead and appointed him.

Justin Doone
161 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:36:02
Frank has dismissed other opportunities but I can't understand why.

He may be been better coming into a fresh challenge in the summer, not into a poorly performing, injury ravaged squad.

I'd rather keep Dunc until the summer.

Brian Harrison
162 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:44:04
Just reading that there are still 3 in the frame and Moshiri plans to interview them all over the next 2 days. I think if I was Lampard I would say to Moshiri obviously if you need to interview me again that tells me you are not sure about me. But even more importantly with you needing to interview me again I am not really sure about you so probably in both of our best interests and I withdraw from the process.
Gavin Johnson
163 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:46:59
Other than Favre for 5 months I actually think a forward thinking appointment would be making Dunc interim until the end of the season, and announcing tomorrow that England U 21 boss Lee Carsley will be his assistant. I think Lee might be a bit more nuanced tactically and complement Dunc's passion and motivation.
Jonathan Tasker
164 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:49:07
Ferguson won't get the job.

If he's retained in any capacity, it will suggest that the new appointment is not serious. A professional manager would not countenance having to put up with Ferguson. They would surely want their own team.

Chris Jenkins
165 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:50:20
My own preferred choice for manager has always been for the reappointment of David Moyes and I have consistently put his name forward throughout the last few years since the dismissal of Martinez. However, I have to accept that, for a number of reasons, this is unlikely to take place, at least for now

Michael Connelly @149 – I agree totally with your rationale for appointing Frank Lampard – he probably isn't a long-term answer but, as you say, the preservation of Premier League status is the critical overriding factor. Whilst nothing is guaranteed, he would be more likely to succeed than any of the other names supposedly in the frame.

Mike Gaynes @140 – In all honesty, I have to confess that I very often disagree with your comments but, on this occasion, I wholeheartedly concur with you that Lampard is very much a leader and that this quality of leadership is desperately required now. He reminds me so much of the late Jimmy Gabriel in his heyday, a fighter who never gave up and that attribute is so necessary now.

Dale Self
166 Posted 27/01/2022 at 19:50:25
If he's Tory then obviously my support is contingent upon performance.
Peter Neilson
167 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:13:23
Lampard said previously “I'm fortunate to be in a place where I want to work but I'm not desperate to work. I want to try and get the right place.”

He’s not desperate and not short of a few bob. Maybe more so than with other candidates it’s Moshiri/Kenwright/Usmanov who will be having to sell Everton to him.
Usmanov is old pals with Abramovich since the 1980s so Lampard’s hardly an unknown entity. So why not have him lined up 2 weeks ago? Maybe contract issues? If you’ve forked out the best part of £50m in termination payments it’s right to be wary.

Anyway pure conjecture. It’s going to be a pretty tough job for whoever comes in.

Dennis Stevens
168 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:18:02
According to the beeb there'll be a "final" round of interviews tomorrow. The third man in the frame was claimed to be Rooney earlier, although an "outsider". However, they now reckon Ferguson is the third man under consideration. Yet I was under the impression he wasn't in the running at all, whether by choice or not wasn't clear.

Will our next shirt sponsor be confused.com??

Joe McMahon
169 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:25:36
Dennis, Dominic King has started the same. If we don't offer it to Lampard I like I'm sure many will be absolutely furious. We'd Even be more of a laughing stock to football fans of other clubs and the media.
Barry Hesketh
170 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:25:55
I don't believe many Millionaires even those from humble backgrounds are likley to be fully fledged Labour party members or supporters, there are a few obviously, but then again there are thousands if not millions of Tory voters who would see themselves as ordinary working people from all four points of the country. Political persuasion, place of birth or any other random factor shouldn't matter, can the guy manage Everton FC? Is he the best available? That's all that counts.
Gary Jones
171 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:31:18
If they’re going to give it to Duncan, then give it to Duncan. Announce that “he is by far the best option we have, and it’s now time to back him”. Give him at least 3 year contract so it looks like BMD is in scope. Let’s face it, he’d take about the same as it’ll cost for the others for half that.

If they’re making it anyone from outside, 6-18 months max. contract. Everything linked to performance.

For the love of Howard, get whoever it is a top midfielder (or two) before Tuesday.

Danny O’Neill
172 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:36:36
Let's not bring politics into football.

But seeing as it's been raised, I would just counter the London Tory narrative. Historically, just as in all British cities, the Conservatives struggle and it is a majority Labour voting city. Pockets of Conservative on the fringes and Liberals around Hampton Court and Kingston upon Thames, but mainly Labour.

And if I may, there is often a different type of right wing voter down here from working class areas than the stereotypical "Tory Toff" that many portray.

They (London) voted 60% against Brexit with a population of nearly 9 million which compares to Scotland's much vocalised hysteria of a 62% vote against with a almost only half that population.

London doesn't always fit the Tory narrative. Far from it if you see some of the districts and areas.

Anyway, back to the football. Lampard is an East London boy. I think he would warm to Everton and us to him. Still on the fence though!!

Brent Stephens
173 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:39:50
It's fortunate we don't have a game at the weekend, so a wee bit more time for a new appointment to start to settle into the job. But they might need a very quick briefing by Duncan (assuming he's not the man) to bring them up to speed with players they might know little about; and a few days showing up well in training might be misleading for the new man (I think we're safe to say, this time round again, that it will be a man) - Iwobi apparently is a whizz in training.
Sam Hoare
174 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:41:13
Christy@154 firstly I’ve seen you call for Gilmour about 30 times this last month, he’s already on loan at Norwich so no chance there!

As for Lampard time at Derby, he was given one of their biggest transfer and wage spend in their history. He bought in good championship players like Waghorn and highly rated youngsters like Jozefzoon, he was able to add the talented Harry Wilson on loan along with Mount and Tomori who may have been Chelsea reserves but were clearly 2 of the most talented players to grace the Championship. With all that talent he took a Derby team that had finished 6th the season before to the dizzy heights of, well, 6th. They had a decent play-offs and lost to a good Villa team but I struggle to see how that constitutes success? Dunno if you’re a fan of xP and xG but Derby were around 19th for both that season, which suggests they were very lucky indeed to finish 6th.


Plus he had one of the lowest points per game records of any Chelsea manager in the last decade.

I can’t say it leaves me feeling hugely optimistic.

Dale Self
175 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:43:38
Outrageous Danny but okay.

Hey, maybe Moshiri could be a celebrity appearance on I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue.

John Chambers
176 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:44:14
If there is a only a choice between Pereira and Lampard it has to be Lampard in my opinion. He must have the advantage of having seen us play this season and heard much of the discussion in the media of our problems so should be pretty much aware of the challenge. He will also have knowledge of who we are facing so can plan teams/tactics accordingly. Lastly, as others have mentioned, he is more likely to have the ability to get players who know the Premier League in on loan in the 3 days he would have. These are all key requirements in my eyes for a manager to keep us in the PL this season. If not Lampard I would appoint Ferguson for those same reasons ahead of Pereira
Ed Prytherch
177 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:45:04
Brian #122 Thanks for answering my question
Danny O’Neill
178 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:52:30
Order Dale. Order!!!

It's all banter I know. At Chelsea, we were giving them Chelsea Rent Boys, they were giving us "we pay your benefits" etc. Even though half of them come from terraced houses in Battersea or council homes in Hayes.

I coached some great kids down here, some from very deprived backgrounds and poor families. I spent time and a lot of my own money picking them up, paying for them and educating them so I could get them on a football pitch.

Sorry for getting defensive!!

Peter Brogan
179 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:54:31
Lampard all day long- just get it done Everton.
Howard Sykes
180 Posted 27/01/2022 at 20:54:44
The flip flop is clear Moshiri wanted Pereira but then stuff happened like media that told him this could be Benitez mark 2 for a lot of supporters. He listened (for once) and changed his mind, that's a development that hasn't happened before. bring on Lampard.
Gerard McKean
181 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:02:53
Bravo Danny, 172,! Whoever said we don’t get on with London lads hasn’t a clue. They vote like we do, they support their team. OK I might exclude the Millwall idiots from this but they probably voted brexit to “take back control “. Dickheads.
Ernie Baywood
182 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:04:24
If it's Frank then he'll get my support.

Once an appointment is made I'd like to hear why that individual was selected. And I don't want to hear gushing tales about 'as soon as we met him we knew he was the one'. I want to know what it was about his intent that aligned with what Everton are trying to achieve.

Because it feels like we flip flopped between massively different options again. Almost as if there was no coherent plan.

Duncan McDine
183 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:07:01
Pat VDH, Andy King, Tony Cottee, Sir Kevin of Cambleshire…. Might not all have been born within earshot of Bow Bells, but saaanded pretty faaakin cockney to me, so welcome Frwank me owd mukka, let’s have a knees up and a few britneys raaand the rubbadubdub and tinkle the ivories on the owd joanna (etc)
Mark Ryan
184 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:10:23
If he doesn't go with Lampard but sticks with Pereira or Dunc I think the players might be underwhelmed by the lack of ambition shown by the club. Is Duncan the sticking point ? I'd be keen to know who DCL and Richy want. This is a massive moment in our history, I feel it in my gut. After Benitez, Digne, and the low turgid defensive shitty football we need a new broom to breathe some life into the club.It's time Mr Moshiri, be brave and get Lampard over the line
Peter Hopkins
185 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:10:50
New pictures of the stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, can only mean one thing, it's Pereira!

Lampard was not my first choice but, out of the two, it has to be him; he will know the players that we have and not spend games that we haven't got getting to know them.

Danny O’Neill
186 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:14:03
Gerard, when we played Millwall in the cup a few years ago. Yes when they beat us.

Me and my lad jumped up in the pub when we scored. A Millwall fan told me he was going to "smash me up".

I told him he wasn't going to. And told him to sit down. He did.

I'll exclude them too!!

Simon Dalzell
187 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:18:36
Whoever we chose, we desperately need new signings and only 2 or 3 days to go, especially with the Duke out for a month. That could be the crucial factor rather than the identity of the manager.
Ed Prytherch
188 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:19:15
Brian #122,

This is a Wikipedia entry for Duncan with a reference to a story in the Daily Telegraph:

Having spent five years in Mallorca following his retirement from playing, Ferguson contacted his former manager at Everton, David Moyes. Ferguson asked if he could work with the Everton academy students at Finch Farm.[45]

Initially Ferguson was a voluntary worker at the academy, working for Alan Irvine, a former mentor of his from his playing career.

How does this jive with the skint and bankrupt story?

John Raftery
189 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:20:45
Peter (167) I think you are right that the second interview will be more about Frank interviewing the owner(s). He certainly doesn’t need the money but he will surely seek assurances about his remit beyond keeping us in the Premier League; who he will be reporting to, who will be making recruitment decisions, what the transfer budget will be and of course the composition of his back room team.

He appears to be the ‘unity’ candidate, a nice guy, offensive to nobody. His comparatively brief experience as a manager may not have prepared him for what he is about to walk into; a club in turmoil on and off the pitch. I doubt he will have encountered anything like it in his playing or managerial career. We can only hope he is fully aware of, and ready to deal with the magnitude of the task in front of him.

Nicholas Randall
190 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:22:15
Everton should have appointed Roy Hodgson as he is experienced at saving teams from relegation. Frank Lampard lacks experience as a manager but he is a better choice than Vitor Pereira who has not managed in the Premier League.
Martin Reppion
191 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:29:57
I am now a little worried about the future.
If Mr Moshiri does in fact bow to the wishes of the fans and appoint Frank Lampard as manager, what do we do if (when) it goes tits up?
We can't stand outside the ground shouting 'Sack the fans!'
Will the ground be big enough to write abuse about all of us on it?
Are there enough aeroplanes to trail the banners

I'll get my coat.

Jerome Shields
192 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:30:26
Lampard did not come to the fore at the start. But the bizarre selection process and Moshiri taking a steer for the worse, has seen him become the popular choice, as Evertonians wrestle to try and bring the club back on track.

Lampard is seen as someone who knows something about the football that Everton can play. If he can bring his know-how to bear on midfield and get Everton playing reasonable football, he may be able to turn things around or lay down some badly needed foundations.

He won't be a pawn for either Kenwright or Moshiri, concentrating on the football. I think that we are all aware of that danger. The wider fan base will keep the pressure on for more governance and accountability from the board and Moshiri, which has to be on-going.

I don't think that Lampard will allow interference in transfers. I am hoping he can establish a structure to allow young players to play in the first team. This currently does not exist to the extent that it should. He will not be a divisive figure to be looked upon as a threat and should get and maintain the fans' support.

Dennis Stevens
193 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:33:34
That's a gem, Nicholas. I'm not sure even Moshiri would appoint two former rs managers in the same season. Having said that, if Watford hadn't grabbed Hodgson so quickly, who knows?!
Tony Abrahams
194 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:34:01
What’s the remit Farhad? Sell to buy, help to reduce the wage bill, by signing hungry players, who want to play for both yourself and Everton, and are not coming just for the money, Frank.

What’s the remit Farhad? Just coach the players, and let Kia, come and see me when he needs to help a few of his clients out, Vitor.

What’s the remit Farhad? Stay on as first team coach, because you never know when you’re going to be needed again Duncan, mate.

I hope picking the new manager, runs very smoothly tomorrow, but after what John and Peter have said, I’d be very surprised if this is going to be the case.

Barry Hesketh
196 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:40:12
I have this picture in my head of all three candidates sat in Bill's flat, waiting to do their turn in front of Moshiri, Denise and Bill.

Duncan is first to be called into the main room and recites a bit of Burns

"When chapman billies leave the street,
And drouthy neebors, neebors meet,
As market-days are wearing late...

Before he can continue, Moshiri interupts "well thanks for that Duncan, very very interesting, can you send Ramparts in next? thanks!

As they are all waiting for Frank, they all huddle together and whisper, do you think Duncan is Okay?, He's not having a stroke is he? He hasn't fallen off the wagon has he? before they can explore Duncan's state further, Frank knocks at the door.

"Come in lad" says Bill, I'll put the spotlight on for you. Frank is dressed in a dinner suit and top-hat, and has a glass walking stick, as soon as the spotlight hits him he bursts into song.

Have you seen the well-to-do
Up and down Park Avenue
On that famous thoroughfare
With their noses in the air
High hats and Arrow collars
White spats and lots of dollars
Spending every dime
For a wonderful time

If you're blue and you don't know where to go to
Why don't you go where fashion sits
Puttin' on the ritz

Frank's voice isn't what any of them expected as it's a cross between Sid James and Frankie Howerd and completely out of tune.

Bill: "Thanks Frank, good effort lad, we'll call you back shortly, can you send that crazy guy in who's in the middle of eating my gold-fish?

Denise: "Didn't Frank look handsome? I know his voice wasn't great, but really he should be the one we choose."

Mosh: "No decisions yet Denise, we still have to see Kia's mate, sorry the final candidate."

Vitor bursts through the door, riding a small donkey, he snarls a lot and begins shouting "Viva La Revolution", then settles down to begin singing "O Meu Caminho" (My Way) which begins to sound menacing to the assembled audience as it's a performance more akin to Sid Viscious than Frank Sinatra.

Moshiri's completely spellbound with the performance and leaps to his feet, "Bravo, Bravo, Vitor, Magnifico!", but at that moment the Donkey decides to relieve itself all over Farhad's custom made 20 thousand pound shoes, which stops Vitor in his tracks "I sorry Mr. Moshiri, I thought he was a tame, I will buy you a new pair in the morning" Bill pipes up "Who the hell's gonna pay for the carpet, Jenny will go mental!"

Moshiri sits down with his head in his hands, "Bill why did you get me involved in this mess, I used to be a happy-go-lucky guy, I liked balancing the books and searching for that odd missing invoice, it's all too much.."

Bill replies "it's always about you isn't it? All about your needs, your wants". "What about me, I used to get respect and adulation, I was a success, before you came in, interfering, and asking for strange auditions for everybody, Brands hates you after you made him demonstrate his clog-dancing skills at Finch Farm, and you upset Carlo by asking him to do magic tricks at that birthday party. "

Moshiri: "Denise get them all a taxi and send them all home, put it on Bill's account, and bring in that deck of cards when they've all gone, we'll do what we usually do, highest card wins".

"I'm for the crazy guy on the Donkey, you want Rampart and Bill will stick with Duncan like he always does."

"After we decide, I'm off back to Monaco, I'll ring Jim and tell him who we've chosen." Bill: "what about the carpet? What About Jenny?" "Goodnight Bill, I'll see you in a few months, Goodnight Denise."

Alec Gaston
197 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:43:15
It’s going to be Pereira- I hope not but yesterday’s sky interview feels like a fishing exercise to gauge fans feeling - get the impression it’s all staged by Jorabchian, competitive process etc - how did sky get Pereira’s number 🤔
Laurie Hartley
198 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:43:28
Jay # 4 & Mark # 5 - correct me if I am wrong but it seems that you both feel the main reason he wasn’t appointed manager at any of those clubs was because he didn’t feel they were the right fit for him.

I could understand that with Norwich and definitely Watford but not any of the other jobs. Certainly not the Newcastle, Aston Villa, or Crystal Palace jobs.

Given the current state of Everton Football Club I find it hard to understand how we would suddenly become the right fit - by the way I am not saying he has lied about those other jobs Mark.

I will give Frank Lampard one thing though - if he wants it, he is game because it is one hell of a turn around project and has the real potential for a big blot on his CV.

If Pereira still wants it, which apparently he does, then he is either even more game than Lampard or completely off his rocker.

8:30 am as I write this in SE Australia so I have another day to wait to see who our next manager will be. Whoever it is I will be more enthusiastic about it than I was when the news of our last managerial appointment broke.

Bill Fairfield
199 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:50:01
Looking like the other two don’t want Dunc. He’s got to take the job himself or he’s out.
Mike Gaynes
200 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:50:51
The unanimity here is stunning. A 100% consensus that if Lampard and Pereira are the options, Lampard is the choice. That's scary.

Barry #196, thank you for the tour of the outer reaches of your mind. Do those mushrooms grow in your own garden?

Dennis Stevens
201 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:53:28
Well, it's a scary choice Mike. I'm glad I'm not making it.
Barry Hesketh
202 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:53:59
Mike @ 200
It's scarier than that, I'm totally sober and don't like mushrooms very much and they don't allow me in the garden, all those sharp implements etc.

Laurie Hartley
203 Posted 27/01/2022 at 21:59:52
My last comment on Pereira - before we write him off as a footballing dunce have a look at some of the managers that have come out of the Porto system and then compare his stats with theirs.

Link

Mal van Schaick
204 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:02:42
Down to three. Ferguson, Pereira and Lampard.

Give it Ferguson and put some Everton diehard ex players as advisors in as support.

Jerome Shields
205 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:06:24
Tony#194

Very relevant questions.That why fans have got behind Lampard, they don't want amature or old boy interference.I am concerned about transfers since I think this was a unlying problem for both Ancelotti and Benitez.I always felt that some transfered in players where getting selected on their outlay, rather than football merit.It is clear that Moshiri is trying to act independently and Kenwright has his agenda.Neither are in the best interests of the Everton Football team and Fans have identified that. Both Moshiri and Kenwright deserve the reputation they have now got and the pressure on them into the future.


Dan Morris
206 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:07:52
Martin (191)...the biggest strength of our club is our fans. At times, the biggest weakness of our club is our fans too unfortunately. 27 years and all that? To be fair we haven't been much of a 'big club' in the Premier League era and so expectations need managing. Let's get someone in who has a bit of faith in younger players, be happy with a couple years mid table (again) whilst things off the field take shape and a clear plan for the future is made. Getting the right characters in is key, and to be fair to Rafa he had started getting rid of some of the rotten apples. Also got to remember one of our players is going through a criminal investigation too at the moment and that must have had a huge impact on things within the squad, morale, etc. Not really sure what I'm trying to say here, just let's have a bit of patience with the next boss, not expecting anything too great too soon (staying up would be nice though!!) Dunc isn't the one for me unfortunately, Rooney I sense is being loyal to Derby and isn't quite ready. Frank, a few loanees and a bit of time makes sense to me. He's got something to prove and I hope we're patient with him, if/when it happens.
Ray Jacques
207 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:10:25
I think it will be Pereira.
All the messing about so far and Lampard will tell them to stick it. Pereira is a chancer who won't give a toss and will take it whatever.
Alex Gray
208 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:12:47
At this point it has to be Lampard. If Vitor is hired after protests then it’ll be Benitez part two and whilst i’m not enthusiastic about Lampard he has a few plus points. If it’s Vitor i’m in the Moshiri out camp. Enough is enough.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

209 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:14:48
Stepping aside from the manager search for a second, if you like your football madcap, tune in to the second half of Ecuador-Brazil if you can.

Mad. Absolutely MAD game of football.

From the KO, Brazil right back Emerson Royal commits a stupid foul and gets a yellow card in the first 20 seconds. From the free kick, Ecuador should take the lead, but our former player Valencia wide open at the back post, heads wide.

On 6 minutes, corner to Brazil. Keeper gets a poor punch on it. Ball comes back to the corner taker Coutinho who puts it back into the mixer. The centre forward Cunha heads it goalwards. Stopped on the line, but Casemiro follows up to give Brazil the lead.

On 20 minutes, long through ball chased by Cunha flanked by two Ecuador defenders, but the keeper Dominguez comes charging out of his area - and karate kicks Cunha in the throat! Cunha has red welts and flesh wounds from the clash. Why the ref needs to go to VAR, heaven only knows. But a nailed on red card follows.

Free kick awarded on the edge of the area. Ecuador sub in a keeper. Woeful effort by Coutinho.

One minute later, Emerson Royal, already on a yellow, takes a wild swipe at the ball - which cathes the unfortunate Ecuador player right between the legs in - ehrm - a quite delicate area.

Royal's second yellow card inevitably follows. Red card. Ten men apiece.

Barely another five minutes go by and Alisson comes way out of his box to clear the ball with an extremely high kick. Valencia, running towards him laterally, is caught by Alisson's leg as it comes down. STRAIGHT RED FOR THE BRAZILIAN KEEPER!!!

Bedlam follows. A bit more contestable this one as Alisson clears the ball with Valencia a good yard or two away. Eventually, the ref is told to look at VAR, after which he overturns his red card and gives Alisson a yellow.

With all these delays, ten minutes were added to the end of the first half. Still 1-0 to Brazil. Still - just! - ten men aside.

Crackers.

Peter Brogan
210 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:16:44
This is a nonsense- it’s Lampard surely. Where has Ferguson certainly come from and as for the guy that can only recite players from 5 years ago- this is a shambles. My fear is Lampard has gone frick this your doomed and I’m out.
Steavey Buckley
211 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:16:48
Moshiri will need to consider that Everton may need a manager who can quickly get Everton promoted after being relegated. The football signs are not good for Everton remaining in the premier league who are already without Doucoure, Delph and Tom Davies for at least another month, while newly acquired Mykolenko and Patterson are not ready for first team football after Benitez spent 28 million on players he should not have bought, as Everton are reaching the threshold of players they can sign in this transfer window when Everton are struggling to win a game against any premier league team.
Chris Hockenhull
212 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:21:17
Mal (204) Are you for real????? Dear lord.. yes let’s just load on to the fire yet more Ex Everton wasters on to the already clogged up disfunctional payroll ?? Let’s resurrect Ray Wilson and Labone to sort the midfield..Ball and Howard for the middle…Latch/ Joe Andy/Dave/Roy /Gary et al for the strikers..er.. yes. Do you not recognise the roots that are rotten are the very comfy chappies your wanting to add on and clog the system your advocating?? All wearing their corporate Billy Bullshit Sportswear emblazoned on the back.. in neon… “ Hey.. We Get Everton… and get paid to spout that propaganda shite”. Daft thing is… the dissolutinal still believe that shite
Andy Crooks
213 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:25:04
Frank Lampard, the unity candidate, the least worst candidate. Let it be him.
Christy Ring
214 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:25:09
Sam #174 Thanks for your patronising answer. First of all, haven't mentioned Gilmour 30 times, he's back at Chelsea because of injury, and if you wanted to buy a player, can the club not end his loan?. Secondly you said Lampard was given one of the biggest transfer spends in their history? He made a profit of over £400k on transfers, so how was it the biggest spends? As for Tomori and Mount being two of the most talented players to grace the Championship, no one even heard of them when Frank signed them on loan. They were joint 6th to win Championship under Frank, and when he left for Chelsea, Cocu took over and sacked after 8 games? Check your facts again?
Brian Hennessy
215 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:27:42
"Note: Website performance is currently very slow."

Seems like our team is rubbing off on our favourite website. Sounds like a squad of football players I follow.

Will Mabon
216 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:28:43
Jay - who'd be a VAR man?
Alastair Donaldson
217 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:30:56
..we are now a million miles from being able to attract a manager with a strong record. Excluding (arguably) Allardyce & Ancelotti, and the least said about these the better.. all previous Moshiri appointments had failed at their last appointments or cashed in on previous set ups and left before fifing them up..he's tried all sorts..

... so what criteria can we apply now???... knowledge of this league, contacts, intelligence but mostly the ability to put a team together is the main one for me, see what's going right and fix things which aren't quickly..I don't think you can do this without having been on the field yourself. The best managers were top players normally..

Lampard reminds me a bit of Moyes (compliment intended)..genuine, honest and more likely to succeed given his credentials.. and despite our chaos.. really though I just fancy his missus!

Stephen Vincent
218 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:30:59
Chris, I think Mal might be trying to be sarcastic.

At least I hope he is.

Tony Everan
219 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:33:10
Poor buggers will be so physically and mentally knackered after all the speculation, endless interviews, days of uncertainty and sleepless nights that they will be in no fit state to manage a hot dog stand.

Jimmy Hogan
220 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:33:44
The BBC has announced that the late Barry Cryer will be replaced by Farhad Moshiri on "I'm sorry, I haven't a clue".
Ian Horan
221 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:34:12
With Duncan name back in the frame of 3 remaining candidates, then the question is why drag this outl!! To me Moshiri knows who he wants but is dragging this out as a means of missing the transfer window. Two weeks since Benitez left!! Why are our board so amateurish and dysfunctional. They appear to be fiddling whilst Rome burns!!!. The share holders are protected by the paratute payments whilst us fans are being put through the wringer emotionally and mentally and it will only get worse as we are relegated!!! The RS are and will continue to dine out on our slow painful death as they go from strength to strength.
Dale Self
222 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:40:40
For what it's worth, I think Moshiri is trying to get it right. He just doesn't know this business and it is showing. Let's give him a little space to make his move and hope that he decides to make his way to the microphone soon. His chance for rehabilitation is waning.
Bill Gienapp
223 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:41:13
For me, it's pretty simple.

You know Dunc would slit his wrists before he'd let us be relegated.

Lampard would also have a major vested interest in keeping us up. He doesn't want his name associated with a great, historic English club going down, and it would be a huge setback to his managerial career.

Pereira has zero stake in this. Relegation wouldn't even impact his reputation because, with all due respect, what reputation? Not saying he wouldn't give 100%, but do you honestly think he'd lose a wink of sleep if we go down? He'll just shrug and move on to the next job/payday. That's not the sort I want in charge, at least not at this crucial juncture.

Andy Crooks
224 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:41:48
Alistair, @ 217, your last paragraph is actually a good point. I have met the lovely Christine a few times and her lovely sister. Also, Frank, who called with Christine into my local cafe. He was a gent, unassuming and friendly. Not necessarily essential for a coach but not to be underestimated.
Mark Ryan
225 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:42:09
If they choose Pereira or Dunc over Lampard then the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
"Vitor, will you work with Dunc?" Yes
"Dunc, will you work with Vitor? Aye, do you know what I mean"
"Frank, you don't really want to work with either of them do you, because you want a fresh start for Everton playing a high pressing, modern style f football don't you and you want your own backroom staff don't you ?
Lampard " yes I do"...10 minutes later...
"Vitor, the jobs yours but we want you to go back on Sky Sports and tell all the Evertonians that Duncs staying cos you love him and that way we'll get most people back on side and we won't look bad and it will stop the banners
Am I that far off what is occurring here ?
Dale Self
226 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:43:25
I think the Yanks will get this but sorry for the colonial culture reference. Everton is probably the closest a football club comes to resembling the Bluth family on Arrested Development.
Allen Rodgers
227 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:44:08
I think the delay in appointing Lampard is finding someone with the balls to give Dunc his P45.
John Boon
228 Posted 27/01/2022 at 22:56:13
Whoever is appointed has a difficult task ahead. Many posters have gone to the "I just don't care who you appoint, just do it!".This position is quite understandable as most supporters are confused, annoyed and generally fed up with what has happened over the last number of years.

I also agree with all those who are baffled by the appointments we have made. The Benitez situation was a pure disaster, which should never have happened. To appoint someone from "THAT" side was ridiculous. Even then many fans were willing to at least think that it might work. But it certainly did not.

I was on the side of appointing Ferguson until the end of this season. I have changed my mind completely and not because we lost to Villa. Ferguson himself made me do a 180 turn around. He NEVER gave the impression that he really ever wanted the job. I want a Manager who is more than just passionate about Everton. If that was the case we could appoint any Toffee Webber. I now think that Ferguson is not capable of actually managing the team and just wants to play the venquilotrist's dummy and be able to just sit next to whoever is there to manage the team.

At the present time I would support Lampard. I just feel he is the right sort of person. I want someone who can save Everton. No, I am still confused as to who is best bit he does seem better than anyone else

Mal van Schaick
229 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:00:16
#Chris 212. Yes, I am for real.

Since Moyes:-

Martinez, Koeman, Silva, Ancelotti and Benitez, who have ruined and run our great club into the ground in collusion with the owner and the board. We need to get back to grass roots.

What identity do we have now? None! We never will have as long as we continue to appoint clueless foreign managers.

Don Alexander
230 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:04:53
There was a time in THIS century when I had hope for our club but it's long since come to pass that the way it's been run ever since the flake that is Kenwright took over renders hope redundant.

I sort of envy posters who still seem to harbour a hope that a briefly but modestly successful manager or two, or a skiving, convict, self-serving Kenwright lackey, or a bloke who as a legend for Manchester United is now beginning to cut his teeth as a manager, when he can free them from some floozy's nipples that is, as a manager to make things right.

This owner and chairman squeeze the hope right out of me. Anyone who reads the insightful, and they're really insightful on the atrocious way all parts of our so-called hierarchy have incompetently (to put it politely) behaved for many, many years, as recently posted by Paul the Esk, Simon Harrison (re his mate "Q") and, by no means least, Gerard McKean would surely see us the same way as I do.

If anyone still harbours a vestige of hope after reading those lads' pieces then take a look at what Colin Fitzgerald wrote in 2010 on this very site regarding Kenwright and maladroit (to put it politely) behaviour. Colin and TW could easily have been challenged by a lawsuit from Kenwright had there not been a real fear his antics would have then have been shown to be what they still, patently, are - namely destructive to the future of our club.

The fact that he works Moshiri like Stromboli worked Pinocchio says it all, in Stromboli's words to the puppet;

“You will make lots of money... FOR ME! And when you are growing too old, you will make good FIREWOOD!”

Billy Roberts
231 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:04:53
Dale @226
I Love your posts, but I'm scared to look at your link. I get the feeling it's not pretty.!@!
Keep it up our American cousins!! I love you all, Mike Gaynes, Jamie is back, and Keiran is actively pretending to be American!!
Apologies to all the Americans and Canadians expat or not I havnt mentioned, I know there is regular contributions from both Countrys...your input is essential.
Dale Self
232 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:10:34
Thanks Billy and sorry I exposed meself there. Actually Arrested Development is not offensive, well maybe that isn't the word to use. If you are willing to watch anything American I cannot think of any other show that would get you up to speed on 21st century American neuroticism.
Jerome Shields
233 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:11:57
Why is Duncan being interviewed,after announcing that he was only going to be temporary?Is this really right.
Mark Ryan
234 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:12:50
John @ 228, spot on
Brian Wilkinson
235 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:17:02
Finally Dunc put into the mix, has to be Dunc until the end of the season minimum, take it from there after that, depending on how he performs.

Ed, it was reported that Ferguson was bankrupt after his spell in Spain, he may have taken a none paying roll at first, but as far as I can remember, he finally got on the payroll at Everton, that helped him get back on his feet again, not sure if any other posters read about it at the time.

Anyway back to matters, Dunc for me all Day long for the short term.

Gary Jones
236 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:17:41
Stop fucking round. Get off the fence. Duncan IS the future now. Back him, and stay with him
Sam Hoare
237 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:17:43
Christy@214; apologies I didn’t mean to be patronising. It does seem you’ve mentioned Gilmour a lot but maybe not 30 times. I think it’s highly unlikely Chelsea would sell him to us but I guess it’s not impossible.

As for Derby’s spending under Lampard I’m not summer where you get your information but I’ve seen a few articles saying his spending was their highest it’s ever been in the Championship. Are you including wage spends in your figures? A fair few people had heard of Mount and Tomori and the troubles Derby have had since Lampard left is partly because they bet the house on him getting promotion, which he didn’t deliver.

As I said he took a team that finished 6th the year before and failed to improve their league position despite having some very handy players added. Not sure how that constitutes success.

Brendan McLaughlin
238 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:22:48
Brian #235
You'd have to think if Dunc is still in the mix...neither Lampard nor Periera have sufficiently convinced the Everton hierarchy so far!
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

239 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:23:19
Well. The second half of the Ecuador-Brazil game didn't taper off.

Ever seen a game where a goalkeeper receives TWO red cards...yet still stays on the pitch?

Ten minutes into the second half, Raphinha appears to stand on an Ecuador forward's foot in the penalty area. Penalty given. FIVE minutes later, the ref and VAR overturn the decision. Still 1-0 to Brazil.

On 75 minutes, corner to Ecuador. Clean as you like, Torres thumps home a header. 1-1.

End of normal time, the board goes up for five more minutes. Almost immediately, a long ball is played into the Brazil penalty area which kinda hangs between the outrushing Alisson and a chasing Ecuador forward.

Alisson gets two fists on it, but in his follow through catches the forward. PENALTY! Second yellow card for Alisson. Red. Off. No more subs for Brazil to put in a keeper. Ecuador with the chance to inflict Brazil's only defeat in the WC qualifying campaign.

Only...onfield arguments ignite. The ref consults the linesman who agrees with him. It eventually goes to VAR. And it is clear that when Alisson punches the ball there is daylight between the ball on contact and the head of the Ecuador forward. No way should it be a penalty or a red card.

THE REF AGREES! For the second time in the match, Alisson is spared a red card. No penalty and just like the first half, the final whistle only blows on 55 minutes. 1-1. Brazil still unbeaten. Ecuador almost certain now to qualify for Qatar in 3rd place.

Unprecedented stuff I've watched tonight.

And as unlikely as it sounds given all the controversy, the ref had a good game! He was the coolest guy in the stadium.

Brilliant entertainment.

Pete Clarke
240 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:36:18
Kia Joorabchian doing the interviews.
Kia to Duncan. ‘The job is yours if you want it Duncan, what’s your thoughts’ ?
Duncan - ‘Quite happy sitting in the dugout making myself feel good but if nobody else takes it then I’ll do it ‘.

Kia to Pareira - ‘ Vitor, the jobs yours if you want it but there’s a bit of a backlash from the supporters groups’. ‘ Do you still want it’?
Vitor - ‘ Filho da puta’! ‘ Who are you and who gives a fuck about supporters ‘.

Kia to Frank - ‘ Frank, you ticked all of the boxes bar two and we need to know now if can work with Duncan on a six month contract ‘?
Frank- ‘ I have a lot of respect for this great club and its fans but right now I’d rather work at McDonald’s than this shit show the way it’s being run’.


Russell Smith
241 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:38:00
Is it possible that all this prevaricating is really about length of contract, size of salary, number of assistants etc.
Pereira will sign up for 4months on a small salary plus a massive bonus for keeping us up, and won’t want any assistance
Lampard will want a 3 year deal on £10mill a year plus 5assistants.
It might be Moshiri being an accountant again
Daniel A Johnson
242 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:52:54
Klippity the clown Klopp was doing his normal entitled clown routine on the touchline Frank Lampard shouts “fuck off you stupid c**t” right in his face, it reverberated around a covid empty Anfield and outraged all the reds in the posh seats so much Lampard had to come out and give an official public apology.

For that reason he gets my vote lol

Mike Price
243 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:56:24
The only thing that matters is safety this season. Lampard hopefully can get a few ‘favour’ players in, he can communicate well and he is an intelligent person. He’s our best hope out of the people put forward.
It really is a nightmare because people keep banging on about how we won’t go down because our players are better… they aren’t, and unless we get some serious help we will go down. Not only are they not quite good enough, they lack character and fight. I’ve never been more concerned about relegation and I’ve thought it from 10 games in.
Nigel Munford
244 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:59:02
Russell, I wish he’d been an accountant with the last few managers. They E cost the club a small fortune.
Paul Birmingham
245 Posted 27/01/2022 at 23:59:38
It sums up the reality of EFC, and possibly down to the best of the bad apples of manager left in the barrel.

I’d take Frank Lampard on his playing merit, but on a managerial level Vitor, has achievements, but it would seem based on his career, a decent success ratio.

But in reality all in Europe, and so credit where due, if it came to vote for either, Id take Frank.

But for me this is a new starting point in the history of Everton FC, if it transpires.

Reality.

It’s a feeling of walking past the Old Lady, and is this really the way it is now?

Get the Liver Building but, the heart and soul of EFC, has been eroded on a scale that industry doesn’t calibrate.

30 years of mediocrity, and there’s more..

Jamie Crowley
246 Posted 27/01/2022 at 00:09:03
Daniel @242 -

I completely forgot about that!

If I had any hesitancy on Lampard, it's now vanished. Thank you for that reminder which brought a smile to my face.

Anyone who looks at 'their' manager, you know, the guy who stormed the field when Picks got fiddle fingers (yup, THAT assclown) and says, "Fuck off you stupid c**t!" RIGHT IN HIS FACE??

Oh hell yes, sign this fella up stat!!!

Alexander Murphy
247 Posted 28/01/2022 at 00:16:59
Three Candidates.
THREE MILLION.
Won't change anything.

Until We cure the disease, the symptoms will.

Rucur.
Rucur.
Recur.
Recur.
Recur.
Recur.


And Denial Will NOT keep Us out of The Championship, League One, Or League Two.
Go ask Oldham !

Daniel A Johnson
248 Posted 28/01/2022 at 00:23:02
Jamie

Yeah big fat frank lost it and gave Klopp and the rest of his bench both barrels but let’s not forget his Chelsea team also got stuffed 5-3 lol

Dale Self
249 Posted 28/01/2022 at 00:26:53
I'll check the replay tonight Jay, thanks for that.
Jamie Crowley
250 Posted 28/01/2022 at 00:32:51
Daniel -

That scoreline would actually be an improvement for Everton. 😬

Mark Taylor
251 Posted 28/01/2022 at 00:45:23
Let's face it, we are shambolic, embarrassing even. 4 days before the transfer window shuts and no appointment, when we are desperate for at least one extra body in midfield. No DoF, no credible football experience at board level.

Does Moshiri have a death wish or is he an agent working for LFC?

Ed Prytherch
252 Posted 28/01/2022 at 00:59:44
Hopefully Moshiri is dragging this out as a bargaining strategy with Lampard but Frank is smart enough to see that. He is in the driver's seat unless Moshiri is prepared to sink the ship and lose a shit load of money. Uncle Harry has dealt with smarter devious bastards than Moshiri.
Jamie Crowley
253 Posted 28/01/2022 at 01:10:37
ANT-KNEE ROBINSON!!!!

Former Blue for the Red, White and Blue.

Let's go!

Mike Gaynes
254 Posted 28/01/2022 at 01:16:23
The guy who should have been our left back right now, instead of our buying Mykolenko to replace Digne.

We sold Antonee for what, two million?

Idiocy.

Way to go, kid. Nice goal.

Jamie Crowley
255 Posted 28/01/2022 at 01:19:16
Mike -

We tried to tell them!!!

No one listened.

Kills me to this day.

Jamie Crowley
256 Posted 28/01/2022 at 01:24:18
Lampard hired as Everton Manager.

Lures an unhappy Christian Pulisic from his former club to Everton.

Love you, goodnight, sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite. Sweet dreams, pleasant dreams, see you in the morning.

Phillip Warrington
257 Posted 28/01/2022 at 01:58:48
I don't believe Lampard is the man. For fuck's sake, why can't this club just let Duncan have the job till the end of the season?

Instead of this knee-jerk reaction and once again hiring who's available, instead of spending the rest of the season seeing how things pan out with managers who have already got a job and not trying to hire someone who doesn't have a job because their available.

To me, it would make more sense to hire a Director of Football, give them the rest of the season to sort out the mess at Everton, work out what footballing direction the club is heading, and then hire a manager to suit.

Laurie Hartley
259 Posted 28/01/2022 at 02:15:53
One way or another Farhad Moshiri is about to place two, three, four hundred £million? bet. What a daunting thought!
Don Alexander
260 Posted 28/01/2022 at 03:00:57
Jamie, Mike and everyone else with a States-side affinity (excepting politics, as ever) you have always spoken up about the qualities of Antonee and well done for doing so. Unfortunately such opinions are not shared by anyone at the Kenwright-ex-player-stuffed Finch Farm,

Everyone they, ahem, "develop" in what some of us bizarrely still describe as a "Centre of Excellence (stuffed full as it is by Kenwright ass-kissers) departs for next to nothing at best and the vast majority of them go on to prove that they have next to nothing in the real world of professional football.

Antonee is one of the few to actually display from the other point of view the blindingly obvious point that those at FInch Farm wouldn't recognise a diamond if it barged straight past them in their queue for a pre-training bacon and sausage barm to get on with developing themselves regardless, where it matters – on the field.

Well done to him. Shame he was disposed of given where we are now.

Tom Harvey
261 Posted 28/01/2022 at 03:57:45
Why do they need to interview Dunc?

If they don't know him by now?

Derek Knox
262 Posted 28/01/2022 at 06:57:07
Not sure if this has been mentioned above, if so, apologies for repeating. I am not totally sticking up for David Moyes here, but this is reminiscent of potential Transfers etc under The Ginger One, who was always accused of being ' Dithering Dave '.

Well he has been gone for 6 years now, and the same delayed, last minute of the 11th hour, for making decisions etc, seems to be alive and kicking, so who is the ditherer ?

Mark Andersson
263 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:05:13
Snakes & Ladders..
I would feel embarrassed and disheartened but 30 years of false dawns has me thinking I don't care anymore.

If we survive the drop it will be the same shit different year in 2023...

Jerome Shields
264 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:08:55
Jerome Shields
265 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:08:55
If Duncan is being interviewed he is concerned that Lampard may have too much credibility. Pereira is safely expendable like Benitez, even Ancelotti, Silva, Big Sam and Koeman. Lampard is a different animal that already has a identity in Supporters minds and a possible Fan base.

He is not a Moshiri plant or a Kenwright old boy. What more he will have media support and favourable contacts within the English game. Duncan is not as secure as previously, probably, Pereira like, in feeling he has to get his spoke in. With Finch Farm mates pushing him to do so, and maybe even the Luvies( Bill Supporters). The main objection internally to Pereira was that Moshiri was selecting him without them, and their control was slipping.

Lampard, fan supported, is a developing out of control situation for them , hence the possible emergence of Big Dunc.

That's my opinion.

Paul Hewitt
266 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:09:50
Just appoint someone, please.
Steve Shave
268 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:18:21
The possibility they are interviewing Dunc leads me to develop another theory. I wonder if they are trying to extricate themselves from the 'job for life' embarrassment i.e. if he doesn't get it (which I don't think he will) then he will go when the new regime comes in.

I am annoyed it has all come to this, its hardly an inspiring short-list is it? I'm gently warming to the Lampard option but I don't think its a good fit. Toxic fans have poured water on the potential flame that could have burned under Periera, not saying he was the answer either but he has some pedigree, some desire and could, just could have been a success. Displaced anger of some knee-jerk fans practically drove him out of town with their flaming torches and pitchforks. Nice one.

Jerome Shields
269 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:22:39
Steve#268

If he is being interviewed there is a alterer motive.

May be even a negotiating ploy.

Derek Knox
270 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:28:06
There could be another reason for interviewing Duncan, it is to appear to be fair, and possibly save face and let's face it, they (Board) have a long way to go, if at all, to make it resemble anything like a responsible entity, and not Fred Carno's Circus.

If, and only if, Duncan was to be appointed without being interviewed, it would certainly make them look even more inept than they are.

Brent Stephens
271 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:32:54
Derek #270 "There could be another reason for interviewing Duncan, it is to appear to be fair, and possibly save face".

Yes, Derek, it might be all about appearances, as you say. Possibly also a backstop in having Duncan on the list in case the other two pull out or make excessive demands.

Marc Hints
272 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:47:19
and Luiz Diaz the one player I would really like us to sign is going to our neighbours - it can't get any worse can it?
Marc Hints
273 Posted 28/01/2022 at 07:54:02
So they leave it until today to announce the manager which to be honest we will not be surprised about.

That leaves two days of the transfer window, coincedence?

We have Doucoure, Delph and Davies out long term which leaves us very short in midfield.

If we think Gomes is going to get us out of this relegation scrap think again.

Typical of this club leaving it until today and still not realising we are in a relegation scrap

Very amateur indeed

Derek Knox
274 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:00:15
Brent @ 271, Just a afterthought, I wonder if they have interviewed Fred Karno ?
Joe McMahon
275 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:02:37
It might sound dramatic but if its not Frank Lampard I'm throwing the towel in. I shall not pay another penny to watch this club until there is change in ownership and Kenwright has pissed off.

We have the rare opportunity to have a well liked and respected manager, who would also appeal to younger generations.

Colette Black
276 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:13:22
Joe @ 275, I will join you.

Marc @272, my thoughts too. I watched a lot of videos of him in the summer when we were constantly linked with him and was really impressed. The gulf between us and them has never been wider.

Tony Abrahams
277 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:13:24
Let’s see what today brings Joe, but I’ve got similar feelings if Duncan Ferguson doesn’t get the job but is allowed to stay on as a first team coach again. I stopped going to Goodison, when I couldn’t put up with Moyes & Kenwright any longer, but then Sir Alex came along.

Kenwright stayed, he’s given us some good times, thankfully, but I’m just waiting for nurse Ratchet, or an announcement from Everton today!

Marc Hints
278 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:14:22
Joe #275

Its not dramatic mate think a lot of us are ready to throw the towel in.

I cannot really see light at the end of the tunnel with the current board who seem to have no idea how to run a football club!

We now have no DOF, no Head of Recruitment etc etc

It really is embarrasing!

Christine Foster
279 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:28:12
Another week or so before the next game, no hurry.. if we drag it out a bit longer then the window will be closed. What a shame.. shush, here he is...
"Sorry Frank but due diligence takes time you know, it was a hard decision but you got it! Well done!"
"Yes, I know the timing didn't work out as planned but the window has closed now, but I am sure you will get this lot ship shape and winning. There is a significant bonus for you if we stay up!"
"Crap" says Frank..
Alan Johnson
280 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:28:16
W.T.F
Brent Stephens
281 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:30:18
Derek #274 - maybe that's our Chairman?!
Paul Smith
282 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:31:47
Best result for me is Lampard in and Duncan out. No idea if Lampard will be any good or how shit Duncan really is. I’ve no insider knowledge, stats or great footballing insight to back my preference up. It just feels like the best outcome.
Jonathan Tasker
283 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:33:44
What is this obsession people have with Duncan Ferguson?
He scored some good goals for us.
Big deal.
He’s done nothing as a coach.
Yes he won one match as temporary manager.
I just don’t get it.
Marc Hints
284 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:35:17

Marc Hints
285 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:37:18
Colette #276

Yes totally agree it just seems to get wider and wider. He was the perfect winger for us.

Danny O’Neill
286 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:42:37
3rd interviews for 3 individuals. Is that what I'm hearing?

I get that is normal business practice, but when being played out in the public forum I would hardly imagine it installs confidence in the applicants. Normally, you know who you want after the first or at least second round.

Only Everton can turn this into a soap opera, which makes sense given our Board's Coronation Street roots.

Pat Kelly
287 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:51:36
For those interested Pereira's interview with Moshiri is being livestreamed here :

www.givemethemoney.com


Peter Carpenter
288 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:56:43
Lampard - Premier League experience, promotes young players, likely to inspire current squad.

Ferguson - not a new voice, doubts over tactical ability, Ferguson bounce may not work again.

Pereira - huge gamble, may need time to assess players (will be impressed with Iwobi in training), best years long gone.

Wow, it's close, isn't it.

But Lampard has verbal abuse of Jurgen Klopp on his CV. That swings it for me.

Jeff Armstrong
289 Posted 28/01/2022 at 08:57:28
Be nice to think that while the managerial circus is going on we are also trying to secure someone like Van de Beek to bolster the middle, don't care if he's not the new manager's choice, the rest of them aren't either!

We need a midfielder, he's going to Palace FFS, 3 days left of the window.

Darren Hind
290 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:19:27
Jonathon,

I'll try to answer that for you as you seem to have a bit of an obsession about Duncan Ferguson going on yourself. You're not alone; there are about half a dozen of you on here.

Us arl fellas can reel off the names of dozens of truly great footballers. I won't even bother to mention them. You know who they are. They played when we were kings.

The last time we were kings is nearly 40 years ago. Since then, this club has become a whipping boy to all the big clubs, especially The Mancs and the Red Shite. A situation 99.9% of our players readily accepted...

But not Ferguson; he showed no inferiority complex... he took no backward steps. He walked the walk and they were fucking terrified of him...

Would he have got near Harry Catterick's team, or Howard Kendall's class of 84-87? I think we both know the answer to that. He wouldn't have got near... but to a generation of Evertonians, he was the man who stared down both of our greatest rivals and, although he would never be a great footballer, to them he will always be a legend.

People accuse him of ducking the manager's job, but that accusation has been laid bare. He has twice stepped in when the situation was critical, armed with no more than the best wishes of the vast majority of Evertonians.

Those who try to portray him as someone Kenwright brought back as a "favour" do not know what they are talking about.

He came back to skivvy for Davey Moyes while he took his coaching courses and he did it for nothing. The mythical "Job for Life" Kenwright is supposed to have offered him didn't exist. It was nearly two seasons and, only after earning his badges, did he start to even get paid.

Will he make a good manager? Fuck knows... but the same can be applied to Frank Lampard. He hardly covered himself in glory when given his chance at Stamford Bridge.

Will he have what it takes to manage Everton right now? Again, fuck knows... but his application and interviews would demonstrate he has the courage. Maybe the other two will, but it will cost about £6-7M to buy their courage.

All three of them can say they have the balls... but only one of them would be prepared to put his balls on the chopping block for this club.

Rob Halligan
291 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:19:59
One or two stories about Everton approaching Ruben Loftus Cheek before Mondays deadline. Has he heard anything about Lampard getting the job?
Len Hawkins
292 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:29:40
I am sorry but a lot of posters keep using the word Amateur to denigrate the farcial squabbling going on in the corridors of power. I think it gives amateurs a bad name comparing them with this gang of odd balls.

I think this must be the end of the road now for Duncan Ferguson he scored a few important goals against top teams but once again after working under various managers he seems reluctant to make the final step I think the club should tell him to start his managerial climb of the ladder elsewhere.
We keep hearing we need someone who knows the club NO we need someone who doesn't know the misery and failure that go with the job and it needs someone to give the club a good shake drop the rubbish that pretend to be footballers and tell the board and owner you lot pick the paint and the colour of the seats I'll run the Team and bring in the players we need to do the job. The ideal man is sadly bollocking board members and Chairmen elsewhere Brian Clough. Lampard has an ideal reference book to gleen knowledge from all his ex Chelsea bosses plus Uncle Arry.

Chris Leyland
293 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:35:34
Darren, Duncan might have occasionally put in some effort against Liverpool and Man U but that was inevitably followed by 6 weeks out against the ‘lesser’ teams following some niggling injury or a stupid and petulant sending off. Remember his 7 game ban after losing his rag against Wigan?

In many ways he is the embodiment of what this club is today : the fake dawn with potential to be great and occasionally showed glimpses of it to make fans believe that we might be on to something but all too often he let us down and underachieved.

In August 2003, Jamie Jackson of The Guardian called Ferguson "arguably the biggest waste of money of all", citing his high transfer fees and wages compared to his injury record and age. By that point, he had scored 12 times in 41 games in three years at Everton, while earning over £5 million in salary. His 192 minutes of play in 2002–03 as a goalless substitute cost the club £9,000 per minute.

Christopher Timmins
294 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:40:27
Today's the day or with it end up like the Sue Gray report and be continually delayed. At this stage I just want a manager in who can bring in some upgrades before close of business on Monday.
Brian Harrison
295 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:44:44
This is all a stitch-up, I will be absolutely amazed if Everton don't announce on Saturday or Sunday that Pereira has got the job. They have made it look like they went through the process of interviewing other candidates, but all along Kia and Moshiri had already decided who to appoint. The protest the other night probably made them think "Let's delay it for a couple of days."

Saw a tweet from The Bobble who has been right on all his predictions so far, and he claims Lampard was very disappointed at not being offered the job on his last interview as that was the impression he was given. But he went on to say Lampard is not walking away from the process. I think, if I was him, I would tell Moshiri to shove the job where the sun don't shine.

I really hope I am wrong and Lampard gets the job, he is the one of all the candidates mentioned who I think can turn this club around. When they sacked Benitez, I was all for giving Duncan the job till the end of the season but it seems that's not what the owners want.

Why on earth do they need to interview Ferguson? As a matter of fact, why are they conducting 2 or 3 or 4 interviews? What is the point? If you don't know after 1 interview whether somebody is right for the job, then you shouldn't be in charge of the process.

Derek Knox
296 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:44:57
Brent @ 274, Do-De-Do-De-Do-De-Do -Do, now there's a coincidence, here is a clip from Wiki on the aforementioned FK (BK). " Frederick John Westcott, best known by his stage name Fred Karno, was an English theatre impresario of the British music hall. As a comedian of slapstick he is credited with popularizing the custard-pie-in-the-face gag. During the 1890s, in order to circumvent stage censorship, Karno developed a form of sketch comedy without dialogue ".

I arrest my case m'Lud !

Marc Hints
297 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:46:12
Len #292

Spot on Len. The problem is with Kenwright you get a lot of decisons based of sentiment. e.g all these ex Everton players given coaching roles who have no coaching experience.

If Duncan Fergson wants to become Everton manager follow the footsteps of Rooney, go and manage a championship club, build your experience up etc..

Danny O’Neill
298 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:46:38
Okay, on the Duncan debate.

I see it 2 ways. As a player, he gave a younger generation something to idolise and hope for in pretty dark times.

His passion for Everton and football isn't in question whatsoever. That's probably one of the reasons he continues to rule himself out or be ruled out of the job. He know's his limitations.

As a player, on his day unplayable. But so was Andy Carroll. He just didn't have the consistency or the discipline. That's why he failed (harsh word) to live up to the undeniable potential that was blatantly obvious to see. The injuries we'll just have to put down to bad luck I guess rather than commitment. That's why he frustrated me as much as some injury prone and inconsistent but clearly good players frustrate me now.

As a coach / manager, I've been vocal. Yes, he has admirably stepped in to steer the ship through choppy waters when asked, but he hasn't done a Lampard or Gerrard and taken the plunge. He hasn't flown the nest. I don't know if he's got it in him but as said, you can never tell until you see them do it over time and with consistency.

We all love Duncan Ferguson. Genuinely we do. But as a player and a manager, to us who can only assess on what we see, he just seems to be one of those who made it to the top level but just fell short and will likely fall short of be genuine top drawer. But he could have been. Was it ability? Was it mentality? Was it down to not really wanting it?

I'll go back to his mentality and the potential effect the incident that resulted in him serving sentence had. For years he wouldn't communicate with the press - his understandable choice. But I also wonder if that's part of his character. He always seems uncomfortable; he's not natural being in the limelight, which would partly explain his reluctance to take a front seat in management on a permanent basis. Happier being a cheer-leader than a leader.

Despite his natural talent, I always thought of him as a reluctant footballer. I think that is playing out in him being a reluctant manager. He doesn't like the limelight.

Colin Glassar
299 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:49:03
Well done Moshiri. Only a few more days before the transfer window closes so you can continue to drag out this circus and we remain stuck with the likes of Tosun and Iwobi, while we are crying out for a defensive MF player.
Mark Ryan
300 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:49:16
Didn't Duncan actually say in front of the cameras last week words to the effect of
" they will begin a search for the right man, it's not for me"
I can't be arsed to go back and watch it cos I don't want him and never have but for those saying stick with him he's our future surely he's our recent past and that has been chronic. He is a yes man to Bill Kenwright simple as that. He would die for the club, I'm sure of that but we don't need a Kamikaze pilot we need a new broom to sweep clean. Take your royal blue tinted specs off and move forward
Brian Murray
301 Posted 28/01/2022 at 09:54:45
Mark. On another thread I posted a quote from Rooney himself to his dad. Ferguson is a dope and don’t wanna t to work with him. His dad is a mate of my bro albeit through the boozers in the swan area but nevertheless I’m just repeating what he said. Despite Dunc being an idol of his and appearing in his Bill tear stained testimonial.
Mark Ryan
302 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:02:32
I've just watched the Lampard v Klopp spat in the empty stadium. Lampard shouts "You've won one fucking title and you're giving it the big un, fuck off Klopp"
ha ha class. I'd give him the job based on that spat alone. Nice one Thanks for whoever mentioned that You Tube clip, it's made my day
Derek Knox
303 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:04:37
Mark @ 302, that qualifies in my book, skip the Interview, and appoint him !
Ian Pilkington
304 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:12:16
It is extremely difficult to give Mr Moshiri the benefit of any doubt, but I can only hope that he is appearing in London today to appoint Frank Lampard in person.
Any other decision and I really will have to consider my position as an active supporter since 1960-61 season. I am at the end of my tether with this latest fiasco.
Mark Ryan
305 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:14:56
Derek @ 302 get a message to Moshiri and Kenwright and send em that clip, it'll save a few hours of tedious interviews. Ha ha, even the red shite lads in the stands are laughing at Klippety
Jeff Armstrong
306 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:17:03
Brian 295, I’ve been thinking the very same thing, a load of smoke and Mirrors and then come out with due process bollocks, but the decision was already made on Tuesday.
Rob Halligan
307 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:21:49
Mark, how can you actually tell the RS bench are laughing at Bingo? I got the impression they were laughing at the whole scenario.
Tony Everan
308 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:26:13
Message to Farhad.

Forget the interviews, the polls on here are conclusive, hire Frank Lampard now and let him sign a couple of midfielders before Monday. It’s what the majority fans are now asking for and will applaud the decision as the best one available from your shortlist.

Appointing Frank Lampard will best unify the whole club and support, it is the appointment that will make the majority of fans think we are now all in this together.

The club needs unity above all else at the moment. Apart from some wins, starting at Newcastle. Theres no doubt former will help the latter.


Ian Nulty
309 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:28:18
I am totally with you Ian Pilkington - Have supported the team since 1963 and would travel from my home in Surrey during the late sixties and early seventies both home and away. Still an avid fan, though retired but the events of the last year really take the biscuit. I won't give up my support and really hope to visit Bramley Moore, preferably in the Premier instead of the Champo while I am still reasonably mobile.
Frank Lampard has been my choice all along - Listen to the people Mr. Moshiri and do the right thing - COYB
Peter Carpenter
310 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:32:17
I have complete faith in the Everton board to cock this up completely and appoint the worst available candidate. I feel slightly sick - like I am going to an interview myself. They've got one chance only or we're stuffed.
Eddie Dunn
311 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:43:32
If they don't appoint lampard and instead appoint Periera then they will be creating another potentially toxic situation, which is certainly the last thing this team needs.
We need a manager whom the majority want, so the whole fanbase can get behind the team.
With the window closing this dithering is either a sign of a split or a gambit to prevent more expenditure. Either way, we look as disfunctional as usual.
Alec Gaston
312 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:47:00
Who to believe Elbobble say it’s Lampard so does the Esk. Alan Myers says more interviews. Does anyone? (and I include Moshiri in that) Nothing would surprise me today.
Colin Glassar
313 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:49:10
I'm now fully inclined towards Lampard now. I initially thought a Rooney - Ferguson partnership would see us safely out of this mess but I'm now backing Frankie Lampard.

If Lampard is the man, it sounds like he will want to bring in Anthony Barry (scouser and Evertonian) as his assistant. Does that mean Duncan will be leaving Everton?

Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Dele Alli and Ross Barkley could all join Frank at Goodison. The first two I'd be chuffed to bits with. No longer sure Ross has the desire to be a footballer.

Dave Lynch
314 Posted 28/01/2022 at 10:51:15
Lampard for me.
He'll keep us up and bring stability,Pereira will cause fucking chaos, its what he does.
Duncan... no way, hasn't got the balls for it and another BK puppet.
Raymond Fox
315 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:00:19
I cant believe he will now appoint Periera with our history with protests, we don't want another one so soon.
It depends what Lampard wants as a contract I suppose, he's bound to want plenty money and a decent length of contract or he wont take the job.
As for Duncan he does not seem to want the responsibility of full time manager.
I think he could do a good job but it would still be a big risk.
I think its Lampard if they can sort a contract out.
Stan Schofield
316 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:01:58
I like Lampard for a number of reasons. One of them is that although he’s generally mild-mannered and diplomatic, he has fire in his belly and seems a natural leader with strength.

I quite liked what he said to Klopp during their heated exchange a while back. And the response from Klopp was amusing and ironic, Klopp of all people, with his behavioural issues, telling someone else how to behave. With Lampard managing Everton, Derby games would be interesting.

Steve Brown
317 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:06:31
Short-list? More like shit list.

And the fact that Pereira would have a final interview after making a complete dick of himself and the club with that Sky interview? Any club with an ounce of professionalism would have binned him immediately.

I don't think either Lampard or Pereira would come in and do a better job in the next few months than Duncan. Stick with him until the summer.

Alec Gaston
318 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:08:31
So do people think if it’s true Duncan’s being interviewed as a way to get rid of him?
Alec Laurie
319 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:11:42
Like a few have said, Lampard seems like a decent bloke all round. And I personally think his managerial credentials are overlooked (granted he's only at the start of his career). Solid job at Derby and harshly sacked at Chelsea in what was a ballsy role to take.

As a person though, I think he shows character that we're lacking at the club. A few things stand out for me...

1) Stepping up to take the penalty (and scoring), either the day or the day after his Mum died. He would have been given a pass by many for not even playing.

2) Phoning in the live radio show, during which the host had been bad mouthing him and his wife at the time – they were going through a divorce. Eloquently put the gob-shite host in his place.

3) not exclusive to Lampard – other players do this - but his response to scoring for City against Chelsea. Class.

4) The Klopp video! :-) Which I've only just seen. Brilliant.

I know these aren't all directly football related, but I think they show integrity, courage and dignity. We need some of that right now.

Oh, and he has an exceptional football brain. If you've ever seen his punditry, you'll agree he knows what he's talking about.

Having said all of the above...

I have zero faith in our board to choose him and then to land him.

So, Pereira it is!

Mark Ryan
320 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:13:05
Yes Rob @ 307, you are right. You are right to challenge my view.The way I see it is that people, who I think are connected to Liverpool FC are finding the whole scenario amusing and are laughing. We can hear the sounds of laughter near to the person filming it. My take on the entire scenario was that even Liverpool connected people were finding it amusing, even to them when Lampard tells Klopp to fuck off. I found it amusing too. Sorry for mis-representing the over-arching sense of the images to you. Just ignore what I say in future, perhaps I see things differently to other people. I didn't mean to get it so wrong, I apologise
Christy Ring
321 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:17:44
It's Lampard for me but are they interviewing Duncan to try and split the fans because Frank wants to be his own man, and they don't like it? I like Duncan but he said he didn't want the job because he lacked experience, so is there a hidden agenda by Moshiri and Kenwright.
Rob Halligan
322 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:17:44
Mark, I wasn’t challenging or having a go at you. I just got the impression watching the clip everyone was laughing at the whole episode being played out in front of them. The fact that we can’t see the Chelsea bench, but I assume they were all having a good laugh at it as well.
Derek Knox
323 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:21:47
Just checking in to see if there is any news from either The Transfer, or Manager Appointment Fairies ! :-)
Danny O’Neill
324 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:23:38
Lampard strikes me of being a character of quiet assuredness. There are different types of leadership.

Shouters who eventually go into meltdown when it doesn't go their way or thinkers who, given time, get it right. The pen is mightier than the sword as the saying goes.

On Duncan. Hire him or fire him. Don't impose him on yet another manager. Let the manager / DoF construct the footballing structure across the club.

And his Evertonian-ness is not in question nor a factor. If you want that, hire me. But I'd probably cock it up.

Mark Ryan
325 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:24:49
Rob @ 322...my message was skewed and your right to flag that to me, no offence taken pal. I posted it within a nano second of viewing the clip. Over exuberance got the better of me, I was still laughing whilst sending the post
Allan Board
326 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:29:37
Frank for me, and with the added bonus he really doesn't like Klopp and the shite!
And won loads more than Gerrard, and scored twice as many goals as their hero.
Don't underestimate our Frank - he can be a narky bugger if needs be. And to me it looked like klopp started it as usual and then shit himself when Frank stood up to him, classic arms out what did I do wrong shit from the twat. Like all big mouths,klopp pleads innocence when confronted, remember Dyche last season?
Good luck Frank.
Si Cooper
327 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:30:33
If these guys are willing to interview twice it suggests they really want the job despite the difficulties that are obviously going to come with it.

I'm really not sure who is the best choice as I tend to think an awful lot has to come together for any manager to succeed so previous success elsewhere is no guarantee.

Personally, I don't think Pereira said anything too controversial or damning in his Sky interview and would actually actively defend his right to respond to the graffiti as it impugned him.

All I care about is whether we pick someone who can get the job done in the 2 apparently required stages; shoring us up for survival this season and then improving us after that.

Michael Lynch
328 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:35:11
I'm confused about why this all being played out in the media. Daily updates, hourly speculation, and now this bizarre beauty parade - all covered in huge, probably inaccurate, detail across the papers, TV and social media. Is this normal? I'm trying to think of other examples of a managerial appointment being covered in this manner. Obviously, there's always speculation, and certainly Spurs are always good for a bit of managerial shit-show, but the norm seems more like the way Watford appointed Hodgson, or Villa appointed Gerrard - a few days of names being mentioned, then someone appointed.

But we seem to have an endless soap opera - including TV interviews by one of the candidates. Who is driving this? Is it our club, leaking titbits, or is it the media who can see that we are a shit-show and want to stir it all up a bit more?

If I was one of the candidates I'd be seriously fucked off, and embarrassed too. It makes them look like clowns auditioning for Billy K's Circus.

Geoff Lambert
329 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:38:59
Sorry to say but it will be Periera, All the interview rubbish is just a sham. They think they can play us for fools. Frank will walk away and Dunc wont take the job on.
Championship here we come.
Rob Halligan
330 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:47:04
Danny, when we played Chelsea in Duncan’s first game in charge, Lampard was the Chelsea manager. Did you see the look on his face when Ferguson came out onto the pitch before the game, the reception he got and the performance he got from the team? Maybe Lampard will think it’s worthwhile keeping Duncan on? I do think so, that it’s time for Ferguson to breakaway from the club and try his luck in a lower league, or back in Scotland if he harbours ambitions of being a manager.
Peter Carpenter
331 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:47:38
Bill meets Mosh in London this morning.
Mosh: Hurry Bill, there's interviews to be done.
Bill: Chill, Far. I thought we might take in a show first. Let's get down to the half price booth in Leicester Square.
Mosh: But the candidates... We've got to interview Frank and Dunc, then announce Vitor.
Bill: That can wait, do it on Monday


Bill puts his arm around Mosh and guides him away muttering, 'What a chairman.'

Bob Parrington
332 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:54:14
Colin@313 I agree except please no rerun with Ross Berkley?
Barry Hesketh
333 Posted 28/01/2022 at 11:58:19
I suspect that the board will fudge this decision, they'll likely appoint Ferguson as temporary manager until the end of this season, and perhaps offer Frank the job - depending on our league status come the end of May - for the start of next season. That might suit the club and Lampard. All guesswork of course, because trying to apply logic to the leadership at Goodison is nigh on impossible. Therefore it'll probably be Pierira for a few months with the proviso that he'll be offered a further year extension.

Kim Vivian
334 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:01:39
Fucking hell - I don't know what's doing my head in more - wiating for Sue Gray, waiting for fuckng Moshiri to make an anouncement, or waiting for my lottery numbers to come up.

Please Mosh, just get on with it. Ignore Joorabchian blowing smoke up your arse - despite the appeal we don't need a compltete loony in charge of the team, you know it's not for Duncan so give Lampard the nod before we all cut our wrists.

Edit - The Duncan conundrum is like the fucking dog evacuation question from Afghanistan only this time sentimentality has to be binned and let Duncan make his own way in the business. He'll survive.

Mark Ryan
335 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:01:41
I'm getting a sinking feeling too Geoff @ 329. Kenwright doesn't want to part with Dunc. I suspect it might come down to which one of 2 is willing to work with Dunc at the club and who wants him more. I suspect that would more likely be the loon from Portugal. He won't give a shit. I'm stood on a ledge here. Can't help feeling they will miss this opportunity to revolutionise and change. Are they trying to twist Lampards arm to keep Dunc as part of his team. Got a slightly sick feeling in my gut.
Bill loves Dunc. ❤ Mind you so do lots of Evertonians so many will be happy if Dunc stays. I like him but feel we have to move on in order to change the mindset and football plan. Time will tell, a big day for us NSNO
Anthony Murphy
336 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:27:55
Agree it’ll be all about who is willing to accept terms and what they demand. Both Periera and Ferguson will be more flexible and less demanding. I hope Ferguson leaves if he’s not offered the job - the door is always open should he prove himself elsewhere first
Joe McMahon
337 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:29:52
I also suspect the stumbling block is will you have Duncan on your team, he is an Evertonian and this is Everton FC - The People's Club Frank and we have standards.
Iain Latchford
338 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:36:05
Just seen a photo of Ferguson on the way down to London on the train.
Tony Abrahams
339 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:44:14
Put a stop to this soap-opera right now!
Marc Hints
340 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:44:39
Blimey, its not the new manager that's depressing me... it's the fact we can't get decent signings over the line!

Our neighbours now have Luiz Diaz. Diaz is the best Colombian player at the moment, the best player in Portugal at the moment, he can do anything up front despite not being a centre-forward.

“He really has something special about him. There is no doubt in my mind that, if things go normally, he will fit in perfectly at Liverpool.”

God, it's depressing.

Andrew Bentley
341 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:49:59
Agreed Marc, a lot of chat in the summer that we were in for him but couldn’t get James off the books or others to free up the money needed to do this one. Watch him bag a hat trick past us in the next derby match
Brian Williams
342 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:55:19
Frankie boy's bum will be twitching. 5 minutes to wait for the chance to manage the greatest club in the world.
Some advice Frank, don't fuck up!
Rob Baker
343 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:55:48
Sue Gray report or Everton manager appointment, both overdue but which will come first?!?
Raymond Fox
344 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:58:54
Moshiri and all of us, are horrified with the thought of relegation, we are not only a manager short but lots of backroom staff too, its panic stations.
I think it will Lampard unless he wants too much, but if you think he will keep us up how much is too much.

If its true, why would Ferguson be dragged to London if they wern't seriously considering him for the job which he has said he doesn't want yet full time!
That points towards they are not sure that they will engage one of the other two, or is it just window dressing.

Brian Wilkinson
345 Posted 28/01/2022 at 12:59:27
Latest update, sat on church wall with a flask of tea, jam butties and a Kit Kat, no white smoke coming out of Goodison yet, still awaiting signal for next Manager.
Mike Hughes
346 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:00:29
This is like waiting for white smoke out of the Vatican.

Will it be Pope Frank, Pope Duncan or Pope Vitor?

And will they turn our Hell into Heaven?

It’s now 1/9 for Pope Frank but this is EFC - the biggest charity in the sporting world - on and off the pitch. Whoever pulls on the heart strings may win the day.

I can see this turning into a West End musical farce:
“The bills are alive with the sound of Muzak.”
“Fiddler on the hoof.”
“Three men and a basket case”
Or a remake of “Deliverance”

If DBB takes the lead, she’ll be a sucker for a sob story in, “Miss Sigh Gone”.

I’m hoping for Pope Frank but Divine Intervention will be needed either way.

Joe McMahon
347 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:08:49
Alan Myers seems to think Duncan to end of season. I bloody well hope not.
Frank Crewe
348 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:17:38
My choice

1. Lampard
2. Pereira
3. Anyone except Ferguson. Personally I hope after the choice is made we won't see Ferguson sitting next to the next manager at all. He's had his go next to the last 5 or 6 managers. Time for a new face. If it was up to me I would release all the ex-players at the club. Ferguson, Unsworth, Baines, Jeffers, etc. It's an old boy clique and needs to be removed if the club is to start moving forward.

Mark Ryan
349 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:18:24
Sky reporting Tim Cahill seen in London too. Is he a Kenwright stooge ? I don't know
Tony McNulty
350 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:18:47
My father used to have a great phrase which you never hear now:

"Stone the crows."

It comes to mind when I contemplate EFC currently.

Kim Vivian
351 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:20:37
Well I suppose someone's going to get it right.

How long does it actually take to play a round of paper - scissors - rock?

Brian Williams
352 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:23:35
Joe#347.
Joe, what Alan Myers actually said was "I understand Duncan Ferguson would take the job for the rest of the season and has the support of the players."
Not quite "he thinks it'll be Fergsuson" really so I wouldn't worry too much yet, though I think that IS still a distinct possibility.

Those in charge (don't laugh)may think that Ferguson would cause the least upheaval to the players and maybe be in a position to hit the ground running, and quickly sign two more players, which we badly need.

Lynn Maher
353 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:25:15
Sorry if this has been mentioned in previous posts, but have just read a truly excellent article in the Independent.
Headline, Everton’s dysfunctional hierarchy leaves next manager in need of miracles.
It basically tells it as it is, warts and all, and no-one is spared!
It could have been written by a ToffeeWeber.
Brendan McLaughlin
354 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:30:17
Interesting, Mark (#349);

I wonder if an "unpopular" managerial announcement is going to be sugar-coated with Cahill also being revealed in some capacity?

Brian Williams
355 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:31:26
Just read that Lynn and you're right it's spot on. Unfortunately it's up against the likes of Carragher and even our own Leon Osman who back either Kenwright or the board or both, and there's more doing that also.

It mentions the hiring of a hard-nosed chief exec (I think). It's my belief that Kenwright and his allies are dead against that as it would mean the end for them and they/he wants to hang onto what they have.

It's an absolutely shocking situation which one ToffeeWebber yesterday highlighted with info from a club employee which actually gave me a sleepless night.

Dennis Stevens
356 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:32:49
Not a phrase you hear much nowadays, Tony. Good band too!
Barry Hesketh
357 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:36:27
Below is the link to the article that Lynn @ 353 has pointed to. Don't suppose it will go down too well with those in charge at Goodison, but there's not too much to argue with.

Everton Dysfunction
Peter Carpenter
358 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:36:33
BBC - "I believe I will be a Premier League manager and I am ready for that 100%. If that comes with Everton, great. But I have a job at Derby, which is important to me."
Well done, Wayne. A voice of sanity in this farce.
Alex Gray
359 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:39:01
Rooney rejecting us highlights the farce we’ve become.
Mark Ryan
360 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:40:18
Is this massive or have I got it wrong? Feels way more important than any appointment since Moyes.

I'm reading Wayne was asked for by Everton but said No. I'm personally glad. I bet Kenwright was upset by the rebuff. If Wayne felt it was right to stay at Derby, he's made the right decision. Good for him for not jumping ship.

Tony McNulty
361 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:42:27
Dennis (356)

Agreed.

I had to look up the phrase before posting (woke and all the rest of it). It is very easy to get in trouble now using phrases which are no longer PC.

It's only in the last two years that I learned that "getting down to the nitty gritty" (once a very common phrase) was totally unacceptable now.

Brian Murray
362 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:44:04
Carrager like most from outside have totally misread the situation. He says bill should walk away at the end of the season and why put up with all the hassle on match days. Firstly he revels in his jolly outing with his crew plus Jenny every other week. Oh and Jamie says it doesn’t sit well with him all the abuse. Sit well or spit well keep your nose out daft kopite
Lynn Maher
363 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:44:39
Thank you for putting the link in, Barry @357.
I know my limitations 😀
Chris Williams
364 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:45:39
Tony,

What does that do to The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band?

Tony McNulty
365 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:54:38
Chris,

I think at this point my father would have said, "stone the blinkin' crows."

Brian Williams
366 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:56:08
Tony #361

It's only in the last 2 years that I learned that "getting down to the nitty-gritty" (once a very common phrase) was totally unacceptable now.

It's a shame Tony as there's no proof that the phrase has any non-pc connotations but one that was "incorrectly" believed to have.

A case of jumping to the wrong conclusions and making bad judgements on those conclusions.

Hmmmmm, now where have we experienced that before?

Don Wright
367 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:57:39
Also Chris (364) how would it effect MR. Bojangles.
Brian Williams
368 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:57:51
Changing the subject slightly. Frank's interview started at 1pm. He's been out twice already for a ciggie.
Strange as he's known to be a non smoker, well he was before Everton touched him.
Rob Dolby
369 Posted 28/01/2022 at 13:59:55
I have zero confidence in any of the 3 doing a good job.

I have every confidence that whoever gets the job will be sacked within 18 months.

Staying in the division this year will be a bigger achievement than the Wimbledon season.

Total laughing stock.

If only we had people running the club that cared about it as we do!

Marc Hints
370 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:00:41
It must be Ferguson getting the job otherwise why on earth would you send him all the way down to London on the train!

Surely they must know if he can do the job and not have to send him to London for an interview?

Brian Williams
371 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:01:53
Duncan's just texted me.

A waiter brought in teas and coffees, with cakes and stuff.

He had to turn the job down to get out!

Danny O’Neill
372 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:02:13
Being the biggest turncoat I am aware of Brian, he has no opinion on Everton in my book. I can stomach a player playing for the other side, but he and his comments are just unnecessary, smug and out of order for someone who grew up as one of us. He is never welcome back.

And his spitting antics. My mother would have smacked his face. She put up with a lot from me, but spitting was a red line. But being an adopted (that's all he is) Kopite, we wait, give him his job back and forget it ever happened. It's their thing. Rewrite history to suit what they want to believe and airbrush those bits they don't want anyone to talk about.

Inhaler.

Brian Williams
373 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:06:30
Nail on head Danny.
Joe McMahon
374 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:14:21
I've a feeling the Everton Family will win. Little Everton eh! John Oster seen washing Kenwrights Dixie Forever boxer shorts in Clapham Common Duck Pond.
Iain Latchford
375 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:17:03
My suspicion would be that Ferguson is down there to meet with Lampard, as to whether he would be on his coaching team. Pereira seems to have gone off the radar a bit thankfully.
Soren Moyer
376 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:18:35
We probably need another banner with the following message to the club:
"YOU SORT THE D.o.F OUT BEFORE HIRING A MANAGER. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!
Iain Latchford
377 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:20:49
Where is the info coming from that Lampard had his interview at 1pm?
Brian Williams
378 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:21:54
Iain. The very, very reliable, trustworthy paragon of virtue.

Jim White.

Mark Ryan
379 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:23:14
John Oster, very funny. One my mates ( a lass )went out with him when he played down Reading lol enuff said
Jonathan Tasker
380 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:27:29
Jonny’s latest odds
Lampard 5/4
Ferguson 3/1
Pereira 8/1
Somebody else 25/1
This may not age well but you can remind me if I’m wrong
Will Mabon
381 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:28:09
Michael @ 328:

"If I was one of the candidates I'd be seriously fucked off, and embarrassed too. It makes them look like clowns auditioning for Billy K's Circus. "

I agree, and with the rest of your post too. This public dirty-linen crap should've been stamped out when Koeman started it.


Tony @ 361:

Language and expression has developed over millennia. Good or bad (by whatever measure) members of the human race mostly grow and mature to understand the concept of when and where to functionally use it. We don't suddenly need PC marxism "Educating" us into how to communicate. Screw Woke.

Jamie Crowley
382 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:30:29
It's 3:30 p.m. over there.

Surely they'll make a decision prior to close of business for the week??

Pereira is a nut. Dunc himself said he didn't want the job. What is this?

Theatre!!!! On with the show!!!

This is all a ruse to hire the nutter thanks to allowing a vampire into our house who's name is Kia - it's actually Jooblahblahblah - I can't be arsed to look up the goofy name. If that proves to be true, the same protestors who were out the other night need to start burning shit.

Three candidates:
1. Doesn't want the job, said so himself
2. An absolute nut who's appointment will benefit a leech in our midst
3. An up and coming, forward thinking, youth promoting, tactically astute young manager with a bright future


Hmmmmmm

Barry Hesketh
383 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:31:51
I don't know how true it is, but it's been reported that Usmanov's nephew has been running a poll on whether Lampard should be appointed or not, apparently before the tweet was taken down the yes vote was in the lead.

Alisher Usmanov’s nephew and former Everton Director running a poll on whether or not Frank Lampard should be the next Everton manager. Source: @Watched Toffee

I wonder how much money the club could raise by carrying out a vote similar to Strictly Come Dancing for the public to choose the next Everton Boss, but at say a tenner a text?

Rooney was approached last week apparently but decided he wanted to stay at Derby.

Will Mabon
384 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:32:40
Jamie - 2.30 (Winter clock).
Will Mabon
385 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:35:56
Barry, in this current circus, that poll could well be real. Seems everyone has to have their say, to as wide an audience as possible.
Jamie Crowley
386 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:38:01
Roger that, Will. 5 hours during daylight savings. Forgot!

By the way, also agree 100% with your sentiments to Tony.

Now that the PC brigade - a truly looney bunch of folks - have made some otherwise impossible connection between getting down to the nitty gritty and something nefarious, I shall try to work getting down to the nitty gritty into my repertoire and use it daily / often.

Marc Hints
387 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:40:11
Just seen Sky Sports video, they are all there at Kenwright's London office, Sharp, Denise, Kenwright, Ingles...
Brian Murray
388 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:40:43
Moshiri said the other week he’s a private person. Here’s a suggestion. Two weeks since the waiter left and valuable time lost getting players in and out so probably relying on gobshites like Gomes and Keane to keep us up. Now a media circus with a manager who will need big shoes to fill no pun intended.
Mike Doyle
389 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:41:39
Whatever anyone thinks of DF (and he wouldn't be my choice) it beggars belief that he is being asked to take part in an interview process. Its not as if he's being considered against other "in house" candidates.
Kevin Naylor
390 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:43:33
Why oh why do we always dither and dither when doing anything, FFS make an appointment so whoever can get on with getting us out of this shite.
Brian Murray
391 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:44:32
Marc. Who’s ingles. Wasn’t she off the Walton’s. Let’s hope Moshiri says to bill stay in the smoke from now on your surplus. Now that’s what I call the Friday feeling 👌🙏🙏
Will Mabon
392 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:45:10
Jamie :)
Barry Jones
393 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:49:45
This is ridiculous. A second round of interviews in a two horse race. Actually, a one horse race, as Pereira should not even be a contender. If this is all about who is willing to sign the adoption papers for big Dunc, then its even more ridiculous.
Paul Hewitt
394 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:50:18
Maybe Duncan will be asked to go on the board. Wouldn't surprise me
Mike Gaynes
395 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:50:53
This whole thing makes me sad.
Marc Hints
396 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:51:19
Haha Brian - mind you I did not know who Ingles was but apparently he is the accountant
Brian Wilkinson
397 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:52:41
I would be happy with Dunc for now, reassess in the summer, only downside is Martinez would then be available after the World Cup.

Have a feeling Lampard will get it though.

Eddie Dunn
398 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:53:02
It's a job share, with Ferguson having the home games and Lampard the London and anything south of Brum.
Dale Self
399 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:54:10
You know I like to stir it up a bit so don’t take this wrong but here is a bit of a riddle question on wokeness and response to it:

If anti PC people think anything can be said without apology then how can you protest what they protested about what you said?

Brendan McLaughlin
400 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:54:20
Seems strange that having been linked in the media with the post from the outset the club only approach Rooney in the last few days. Suggests a lack of confidence in the other three candidates if the club are trying to broaden the field at this late stage?
Dennis Stevens
401 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:55:58
Wayne's got more sense than many would credit him with, but it's a sad day when staying at Derby County in their current state is even a consideration when you're a possible candidate for the Manager's job at Everton.
Paul Hewitt
402 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:56:34
Good to see other teams are strengthening there squads. No bloody rush Everton.
Barry Hesketh
403 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:57:13
It's not a job share Eddie, it's flexible working, as the Everton manager's job is now part of the gig economy. Moshiri, will text the person he wants to manage the club on a weekly basis, whilst the other two are always on standby and will be classed as self-employed, but they won't be allowed to do other stuff, else they will breach their terms and conditions.
Kim Vivian
404 Posted 28/01/2022 at 14:59:45
Maybe we should have used Sue Gray to do the research...

Adoption papers... that made me laugh.

Will Mabon
405 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:00:06
We're being played like a fiddle... surely? Aren't we?

Interviews at Goodison (Apparently - or somewhere). Protest and backtrack (Apparently). More interviews in the capital in full media glare. Phoenix-like return to contention of the Portugese Lunatic (Apparently). Jim (Effin') White. Dunc on a train...

I wonder how all this has affected social media ad view revenue.

Mike Gaynes
406 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:05:28
Barry, we could even hire a remote-worker manager as a consultant. Alex Ferguson could do pre-game team talks on Zoom and text in his lineups.

Everton has pioneered remote working in football. Lots of folks in this club have been phoning in their jobs for years.

Stu Darlington
407 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:07:22
Anyone know when the next round of interviews are scheduled?
I’ve got to fit it in round my next appointment with my therapist!!
Will Mabon
408 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:09:07
You joke about Zoom now, Mike. Give it time...
Eddie Dunn
409 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:10:58
Perhaps we could consult a medium who could ask former managers what to do. Moshiri could ask John Moores for advice.
Dave Lynch
410 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:11:46
I've a feeling the teary one and Sharp have got into Ferguson and persuaded him to take the job.

Why else would Billy Bullshit and his sycophants all be together.

Prepare to be fucked over again boys.

Rob Halligan
411 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:17:08
I can only assume the last minute phone call to Derby / Rooney was for Kenwright to get confirmation and satisfy himself that Rooney did / didn’t want the job. Kenwright would have been mortified and close to suicidal if Rooney had said later on that he wanted the job but wasn’t asked.
Barry Hesketh
412 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:22:18
Rob @431
I read somewhere earlier - blowed if I can find the source now though - that Rooney's agent had been approached last week, and Rooney declined the opportunity to be interviewed.
Joe McMahon
413 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:23:28
Remember guys "what would the Everton Board do?, as they always get it right" I'm still stunned by that comment. We have a board full of Narcissistic Tossers!
Brian Williams
414 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:25:37
Duncan Ferguson may not have been invited down to interview for the job.
He may be down there to simply meet the new manager?
Mike Kehoe
415 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:26:39
It’s easy to be critical of the whole woke thing and point fun at the sillier extremes, but nitty gritty was slang for slave traders raping African women on the Atlantic Triangle. The Tory’s had an election campaign in the 60’s in which their slogan was ‘if you want a nigger for a neighbour vote liberal or Labour’, something they can’t openly say today.
Ian Horan
416 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:30:42
We will name our manager when Farhad and Bill finish their game of football manager Guess Who ? Farhad is winning 10/9 but its first to 27. Bill has gone on a losing streak since Farhad started asking is he an ex Everton player. its shite being a Everton Supporter?? We are in the realms of if a clown goes into a palace does he become a king? The my friends is no the Palace AKA Goodison it turns into a circus!!!!!!
Alan McGuffog
417 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:32:40
Interesting Mike. I'd always thought that nitty gritty referred to the detritus that ended up on the bottom of the slave ships
Danny O’Neill
418 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:32:59
For goodness sake get this done.

Apologies for the politeness in my terminology, my deceased mother would scorn me for using the great Evertonian in the sky's name in vane.

We could go more rounds than a heavyweight boxing match at this rate. Just decide and do it. More dithering and indecisiveness by Everton that has epitomised the last 30 years or so.

Disjointed board = confusion = poor decision making. Top to bottom.

Brian Williams
419 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:34:01
Mike#415 but nitty gritty was slang for slave traders raping African women on the Atlantic Triangle.

It wasn't though, that's the thing.

Having said that I'll say no more at all on it as I don't want to be a part of leading this thread away from the matter in hand, which is the Everton manager appointment.
Too many time threads are highjacked for individuals own agendas.

Colin Glassar
420 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:34:46
I haven’t read the most recent posts so this might’ve already been mentioned. It sounds like Billy, Dame Edna, Timmy and Sharpy are all in on the meeting with Moshiri and the three candidates.

In other words, the old boys network will choose one of their own - Duncan.

Peter Carpenter
421 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:36:36
The interviews haven't started yet. Bill's just put his scrapbooks of all his favourite shows away. We could be ready to go.
Barry Hesketh
422 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:36:59
Mike @415

Apparently the term "Nitty Gritty" didn't appear in print until circa 1937 and therefore it was either a term only used verbally or it didn't refer to anything to do with the slave-trade. Apparently it was a group of academics at Bristol university in the mid 2000s who began to question the use of the term and it was they who decided it was not acceptable. I don't know the truth of the matter relating to that specific term, but it appears that there is at least some doubt about it's original meaning and when it came into common useage.

If it's use was in relation to what you claim it to be, then of course it shouldn't be used in everyday language.

Darren Hind
423 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:44:01
Joe 413

I have seen that quote a hundred times now and it still makes my toes curl.

I'd love to see him gone but I would dearly love to see people stop referring to him as a cancer I just think there are better ways to make your point.

Awful phrase, bound to hurt.

Brian Williams
424 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:45:23
Thanks Darren.
Soren Moyer
425 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:46:56
When your club is appointing club's ex players as board members just for sentimental reasons instead of bringing real pros onboard, you know it won't end well!
Ken Kneale
426 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:47:04
Eddie 409 - I think Mr. Moores comments on the predicament of Everton and the financial mismanagement would be very illuminating if you manage to get through to him
Mike Gaynes
427 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:47:19
Big news for the Rooney partisans here: ESPN is reporting that Everton did invite Wayne to interview, but he declined.

"Everton approached my agent and asked me to interview for the job," Rooney said. "But I turned it down. I believe I will be a Premier League manager and I am ready for that 100%. But I have a job at Derby, which is important to me."

So despite all the speculation, he has never been an actual candidate.

Colin Glassar
428 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:47:52
My sources tell me Duncan was only invited down to act as Kenwright’s minder in case Pereira kicks off and demands a refund for his travel lodge room and other expenses.

I see Marco Silva has also told us to get lost. Good on him and Rooney.

Mike Kehoe
429 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:50:40
Brian
Not my agenda, just something which surprised me when I was told what it meant. If people are going to make a point of using the term it is good they know what they are actually saying.
Mark Ryan
430 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:51:25
Lampard off to pick up Loftus-Cheek and Deli Alli before riding into Goodison on a donkey. Hosanna playing through the the loudspeakers followed by Z Cars...cmon chaps, you know its the right footballing decision. We are, after all, a Footy Club. Operation Lampard has commenced
Will Mabon
431 Posted 28/01/2022 at 15:53:12
Mike K, things were pretty wild in the past, in fact life was generally a horrifically hard experience for most by today's standards. Gradually, unevenly, things improve. Your example being one which I fully agree with.

But it's going/gone too far - and it's not on or at the extremes anymore. Taking the nitty-gritty thing. I of course had to look up the roots of it, being like the probably 99% of others (including those in literary fields) that usually do not know the supposed literal/original meanings but do fully understand the context, use and intention by dint of their life experience in language.

This 99% also contains those that have been actively made aware and informed that they should be offended by a long-standing and innocently-used term or expression - once "Certain interests" have made the effort to bring it to light. A difference between moving forward and stirring up shit.

Don't want too get deep here but that's an overview of my take on it.

* having seen some other comments since typing, I will add that the whole area of roots/definitions can be something of potential uncertainty too.

Jim Potter
432 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:00:28
A decade ago we were such a sensible, balanced club. Back then I'd be confident that rational thinking would be the prerequisite for getting in a new manager.

Nowadays who knows what they'll do? Tarot cards? A flip of the coin? Opening a telephone directory and picking out a random plumber? (Probably not, his hourly rates would be too steep).

It scares me what they might do.

Donald Trump's probably in the running, with Coco the Clown a close second.

Tony McNulty
433 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:02:47
I am the one who started the segue into the etymology of certain phrases.

So, electronic slap on the wrist duly accepted.

We really need to get this done today or there'll be no time to get in any much needed new arrivals.

Rob Halligan
434 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:07:10
Well it looks like Tim Cahill is coming on board in some capacity. Anyone know what?
Will Mabon
435 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:09:14
Tony, nothing said by anyone was uncomfortable.

If you want cringe however, Joe reminded us of it in post 413.

John Raftery
436 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:09:20
No idea Rob but he could be handy to step in if the next manager runs into problems.
Will Mabon
437 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:09:55
Rob, what have you heard about Cahill?
Brian Williams
438 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:10:30
Rob#434.
Start a poll as to his probable position mate.
Rob Halligan
439 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:12:49
It’s just been on SSN showing Tim Cahill looking very dapper along side Kenwright, DBB and Sharpie in London, climbing into a limousine. I assume he’s coming on board in some capacity
Will Mabon
440 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:13:50
Might be driving the Limo'.
Rob Halligan
441 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:16:00
Can’t be Will, he wasn’t wearing a chauffeur’s hat! 😀😀
Brendan McLaughlin
442 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:17:46
Rob #434
Sugar coating the Ferguson appointment?
Mike Gaynes
443 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:18:56
Rob, you just shot up my blood pressure.

Nobody I'd rather see in this club's boardroom than Timmy.

Jay Harris
444 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:19:05
Just read that Lampard has sounded out Anthony Barry a scouser and assistant coach at Chelsea who is credited with Chelseas improvement at Free kick and corner situations> Amen to that if it happens. MAked me look more positively at Frank.
Rob Halligan
445 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:20:26
Maybe Timmy’s the new manager??
Will Mabon
446 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:21:39
Rob - phew!

Tim Cahill most welcome.

Stuart Sharp
447 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:22:52
I for one think it's admirable that Rooney wants to stay at Derby for now, assuming that's the main reason for saying no to us.

As for Dunc, if he's genuinely a candidate, then of course he has to be interviewed. You can't not interview someone just because they already work for you, not these days. Only today I have interviewed someone who works for a member of the team.

Have come round to the idea that Lampard is the best of the available options. They all present risks, but for me I think he'd be the least worrying.

Will Mabon
448 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:23:05
Jay - "We're gonna need a bigger limousine".
Brian Murray
449 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:26:53
Maybe Timmy wants the chairman’s job 🙏
Jamie Tulacz
450 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:27:01
Not particularly inspired by Lampard, his one selling point seems to be that he's not Pereira.

Why people like Favre, Garcia, even Paulo Fonseca don't even seem to have been considered (all better candidates than Lampard or Pereira) seems indicative of the current shambles within the club

Brian Williams
451 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:27:19
Gonna stick my neck out here and ask: Would a very professional, highly skilled board, with football and business acumen invite Graeme Sharp and Tim Cahill onto it?
Or would they be asked by a chairman wanting to surround himself with those he believes will back him without question?
Nothing either Sharp or Cahill has done, IMHO, qualifies them to sit on the board of Everton FC, great players as they were.
Mark Ryan
452 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:27:31
Seemed slightly odd to see Cahill,Sharp, Kenwright et al all getting into a people carrier together and driving off to the interviews. Looking sheepish? Maybe it's just me.Have they already made up their minds as a collective old boys network ? Are we trying to look organised ?Are they thoroughly embarrassed about how it looks in the media ? They ought to be. Its been a shambles over the months and years. I hope they give Tim Brands's role. Perhaps it will be announced at the same time as the appointment. I see Leon Osman has been vocally supporting the board today. Another yes man. Get on with the announcement and ruin or make my day
Will Mabon
453 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:32:50
Brian, agree re. the board angle but am pretty confident Cahill could offer something to the footy side. Not always easy to translate/pass on but he embodies the whole attitude thing that has been so absent for too long.
Jay Harris
454 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:34:35
Hopefully Will,
and then we can drop Kenwright and little miss floosie off on the Tower bridge to create some more room.
Brian Murray
455 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:36:10
All these ex player have cricks in their necks. All nodding dogs although Cahill seems very professional ( dirty word at el four ) and has something about him bit like edu at gunners maybe. I hope this is all for show and players have already been targeted and ready to sign no matter who kenrights laccy gets the job otherwise it’s pointless. Bit like our fixtures.
Justin Doone
456 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:40:48
I believe that whatever Cahill puts his mind to, he will be successful at.

Get him involved in the footballing side of things as a coach and future manager.

He's got the right attitude, spirit, fight, nouse and brains to get respect and support from those around him.

Joe McMahon
457 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:40:53
Any normal club this would be a no brainer. Frank Lampard word get respect everywhere. In the PL hall of fame, won multiple major trophies as a player, impressed (well me anyway) with his managingh so far. And as a midfield player has scored more top flight goals than Sharp and Ferguson combined.
Mark Ryan
458 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:47:15
Sky reporting Board room meeting tonight in London and decision being made. Get this decision right people
Bill Fairfield
459 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:48:56
I’am sure a new Pope is chosen quicker than this.
Tony Everan
460 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:51:17
Lynn, Barry#357

Thank you for posting that link to the excellent Independent article on Everton’s dysfunctional hierarchy.

Michael/Lyndon. Worth posting this one on the “around the web “ section. Well worth a read.

Steve Bolderson
461 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:52:17
Today's 'photo opportunities' reek of ineptitude and a board desperate to appear organised and effective to the masses.

Whilst staggering from one crisis to another we are absolute amateurs in comparison to our peers - would City, Chelsea, Red Shite conduct matters in this manner?

Everything that's appeared today on social media shouldn't have.

- Selfies with Dunc on a train to London - FFS.
- Using Bill's office for negotiations in full view of the media?

Talk about airing our dirty laundry in public. Everything should have been conducted behind closed doors, neutral location etc with one daily statement from the club outlining progress.

Irrespective of the outcome, I only hope the right questions are being asked of the candidates when in truth the board should be asking questions of themselves.

Rob Halligan
462 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:52:38
So who’s everyone’s preferred choice? Mine is Lampard. Anyone going to keep a five bar gate?

Need a Live Forum just for this.

Mark Howard
463 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:54:03
Not Lampard ive not forgiven his dad for his jig around the corner flag in 1980
Dale Self
464 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:56:01
I'll go with Lampard given Garcia didn't even interview. Incentives are there, he's a bit of a bastard when it comes to football and we need that. Reluctantly on his side but much more into it than that previous guy.
Mark Ryan
465 Posted 28/01/2022 at 16:56:12
Rob @ 462 Lampard for me Rob by a country mile
Ed Prytherch
466 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:02:02
Dennis #356 I saw Stone the Crows in Liverpool either late '72 or early '73 when Jimmy McCulloch had replaced the unfortunate Les Harvey who was electrocuted on stage. Maggie Bell was a terrific lead singer.
Alan McGuffog
467 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:05:16
So there is a meeting tonight. I guess those involved had important things to do today.
Jack Convery
468 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:05:31
Given who we are down to it has to be Lampard. So that's III for the five bar gate so far. Hopefully he will bring in a couple of decent midfielders asap.

Tony Everan
469 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:06:56
Rob, Lampard for me by far out of the three. But more with hope than with any real confidence. I will be looking forward to see if he can make an impact at the club. I think he will give his all, he’s young and energised for it. He’s respected by players and fans.

I think the club needs a fresh start, Duncan should try and get a manager job in the Championship and prove he can do it. It’s wrong to foist him on Frank, let him have his own team.

Pereira appointment would cause mayhem, fan revolt, entertainment of the wrong kind. But it would be great if we had a successful nutter; getting suspend sentences , inciting riots, but European football and winning trophies at the same time. Can’t understand really why he’s on the shortlist.

John Raftery
470 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:11:36
Rob (462) For me it is Lampard and not only because last time I looked he had 87% of TW poll voting ‘yes’. That suggests he will be allowed at least one defeat before people start telling him to go. I have no idea if he is better qualified than the other two or how he will cope in dealing with the current emergency. If however he comes with Anthony Barry in his team that will be a huge plus in terms of the standard of analysis and coaching for the first team.

Perhaps just as significant as the new manager appointment is what the club is doing about the structure supporting the manager. If Tim Cahill is part of that will he will be given decision making authority over the shape and organisation of the football side of the business including the first team squad? If not, what is his role? The Board, or whoever is making the decisions, must get this right. Otherwise it won’t really matter in the long run who is the first team manager because he will be destined to fail.

Will Mabon
471 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:12:14
Steve @ 461 - seconded.
Alec Gaston
472 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:15:22
Looks like pereira interview staged by Moshiri/Usmanov/Joorabchian and today’s events staged by Kenwright- it is anyone’s guess who gets the job
Brian Hennessy
473 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:15:22
I wonder how many top clubs have ex-players on their Board of Directors? - not many I would guess and for good reason.

If there is one good thing that may come out of the last few months, the facts about how badly our club has been run under Kenwright and Moshiri, facts that we fans have know for years, this is now public knowledge. Kenwright's image has been publicly damaged by this and maybe, just maybe it's the beginning of the end for him.

The way I am feeling right now, I would gladly let the sand at Bramley Moore Dock flow back into the Irish sea, and remain at Goodison for another 30 years, in exchange for an owner with half a brain and getting rid of Kenwright, Moshiri and DBB.

Rob Halligan
474 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:16:39
Can’t actually do a five bar gate on here, but so far it’s…

Lampard…….|||||
……………………|
Pereira 0
Dunc 0.

Mike Kehoe
475 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:16:51
This feels like a before and after moment, that Everton stands at the very brink of an abyss and the magnitude of the decisions entrusted to this board is truly frightening. This is the last chance, get this wrong and relegation becomes a probability rather than a possibility.
No board anywhere at anytime in the last decade would ever think ‘what would Everton do?’ unless they intended to do the exact opposite. What kind of person would say something so patently ridiculous when destroying an iconic and loved institution? Beyond narcissism and beyond the realms of sarcasm.
Absolute shambles, utter disgrace. The people who delivered the dream team of Allardyce and Sammy Lee, and then managed to dwarf that shit show with the entirely predictably dreadful Benitez, are now going to take us forward.
Change has got to come; hopefully it won’t take the unthinkable to purge the club of those who are monstrously unworthy.
Frank Crewe
476 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:17:13
Tin Cahill. Another ghost from Everton's unsuccessful past to go with Ferguson. Unsworth, Baines, Jeffers, etc, from the Eerton old boys club. Another ex-player who'll instill some "fight" into the players no doubt. Just like Ferguson did. It may have escaped everyone's notice after last weeks defeat but we also picked up 5 bookings. That's a club fine. Not to mention our best midfield player out for a month.
The days of tough tackling are are gone. Any club that insists on playing that way just ends up with lots of bookings, red cards and suspensions.
We need a manager and coaches who can drill some skill into them, Pace, pass and move is the way to go. Leave the clod hopping in the past where it belongs.
Joe McMahon
477 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:20:08
Brian, none. Can you imagine City choosing a manager with Nial Quinnz, Shuan Goeter and Uwe Rossler, No neither can I.
Jeff Armstrong
478 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:23:49
Brian 473, your last paragraph, if that’s the trade, I’m all in.
Jack Convery
479 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:28:12
Barry 357 - Thanks for putting the Independent link up. Wonderful to see a journo giving it both barrels at BK and telling Moshiri to up his game. It's about time someone in the press gave an analysis that's on the money. I put this on another thread earlier but it's why I want BK nowhere near the club or today's manager selection process.

Jan 2000: Upon completion of the deal with Johnson, Kenwright said: "Acquiring Peter Johnson's shares is only the first step to restoring a great club to where it belongs – to where it should be. If you are going to run a successful football club you need two qualities: you need to be realistic and you need a plan. I'm realistic and I have a plan."
Some plan... No trophies but some "good times".

FA Cup Winners From 2000 Not in the Big 4 / 6.

Leicester, Wigan (for fuck's sake!) and Portsmouth!!! Everton have not won it.

League Cup Winners from 2000, not in the big 4 / 6:

Leicester, Birmingham!! Blackburn, Middlesbrough!! Swansea!! Everton have not won it.

EPL winner since 2000 not in Big 4 / 6.

Leicester (yes Leicester with another trophy). Guess what we have never won it since 2000 and have never looked like winning it either.

In 21 years, we have beaten the RS once at Mordor.

Some plan!! A lot of these teams won their trophy before Moshiri arrived. Yes, I know Moshiri is a meddler and must go to.

The fact that a team like Leicester City have won the Premier League, the FA Cup and the League Cup whilst we have had some good times says it all for me..

Alan Johnson
480 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:31:14
Alan Johnson
481 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:31:21
What Would Everton do ?
What Would Everton do ??
What Would Everton do ???
What Would Everton do ????
What Would Everton do ?????
Who The Fuck Knows.
Anthony Murphy
482 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:34:49
Lampard bringing in his own backroom team with an ambition to produce a young, hungry, talented side in the coming years will give us the new identity we need - not relying on the past for direction.
Kim Vivian
483 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:38:35
I've got a nasty feeling this might be turning into the Dunc 'n Tim show, presented by everyones favorite impresario...you know who. Curtain rises at 9:00 pm tonight.

Think I'd prefer to see Frank 'n Ant

Neil Copeland
484 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:38:40
Jim #432, being a plumber myself I can tell you that there is no way I would take a pay cut to become manager.

And wouldn’t be able to start until at least April mate.

Brian Hennessy
485 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:43:32
If it's true that Lampard if appointed is also going to bring in Anthony Barry, that could be as important as who our manager is.

Apart from his role at Chelsea, he made an instant positive impact when appointed coach with Rep Of Ireland.
Link

Mark Ryan
486 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:43:54
I actually think we're lucky to have Lampard in the mix. He adds some credibility to another wise mediocre pair. Neither Duncan nor the Mad one inspire me. I just hope, after the shambolic previous appointments that this is designed to be less of an amateur appointment. The board have lacked professionalism and Moshiri appears to have been doing the hiring and firing like a drunken sharpshooter. Give Tim the Brands role. He's sensible and loves our club. A proper decent footballing sort. I look forward to Lampard being announced. Anything other than that will be a dark day for me.I hope Duncan takes another role. Perhaps the youth team or a Championship club. Go off and do well. I'd love to see him do well at another club but I fear he's not interested.
C'mon Everton, do the right thing
Dave Lynch
487 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:43:57
Never one to miss a photo opportunity is our Billy.
Hes a fucking clown, along with Little Miss Dynamite and the 2 ex players who lets face it know next to nothing about the modern game.
Goodbye Everton, it was nice knowing you.
Andrew Keatley
488 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:45:30
If we really are down to a confirmed and final shortlist of Pereira, Ferguson and Lampard then only Frank Lampard would represent any sort of deviation from the last six years.

It's hard to argue against the idea that Ferguson has been a central figure in our continued on-pitch malaise, and while he may be indirect collateral damage for that period it would be hard to believe that, with him at the helm, wholesale positive change - fast - could be achievable.

Pereira only seems to know 4 players from the Everton squad from 6 seasons ago, and would be a huge risk that would already have half (if not more) of the fanbase up in arms were he to be officially announced.

Lampard knows the league, knows the players, knows the club, and has good pedigree and contacts. he also has a big point to prove. The potential upside is huge.

Paul Swan
489 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:47:41
See Rooney apparently running his mouth about turning Everton down all over the sports headlines. If true yet more untimely negative publicity from someone who has never put the club before his self interests. Absolutely made up it won’t be him in the job.
Christy Ring
490 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:49:08
Rob#462 I wanted Lampard from the very start, the stand out candidate, but our board leave alot to be desired. I'm surprised he hasn't walked after being brought back for another interview, hope they come to there senses and announce him tonight, and give him a chance to bring in a few players by Monday night. He'd definitely attract players to Everton.
Dale Rose
491 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:49:49
This is the last chance saloon for us. If we get this wrong we are fucked. I prefer Lampard to the other two by a country mile.

However if we stick with Dunc or the mad man, it will be capitulation. The Championship will loom. We either go for glory, Lampard won't sully his name with failure, or mediocrity. EFC Board its in your hands.

Jeff Armstrong
492 Posted 28/01/2022 at 17:51:19
Neil 484, shame your not a pipe fitter, much classier.
Dennis Stevens
493 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:03:44
Don't worry, Paul, "our Wayne" will be appointed in the summer to try & get us promoted back to the top flight!
Mike Doyle
494 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:03:47
This managerial appointment is taking longer than Sue Grey’s report. Perhaps Sue is one of Kia Joorabchian’s clients?
James Gardner
495 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:07:23
Are they trying to draw this out past the transfer deadline in order to keep their hands out of their pockets? Where's the Arteta money??
Soren Moyer
496 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:07:56
Jack #479. Some how it reminds me of Good Times by Eric Burdon & The Animals lol. Should be our anthem instead of Z-cars thingy.
Neil Copeland
497 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:09:16
Jeff #492, I actually served my apprenticeship with Haden Young as a pipe fitter/welder! And you are right, much classier.

I am confused regarding Dunc, I thought he said he didn’t think he was ready? Or was that just last time? Also, a bit concerned that when asked about transfers a week ago, he said; “I don’t know, I think someone else is sorting that” (or words to that effect). Surely, one of the questions and immediate tasks for the new manager is to find at least one addition to midfield?

Kevin Turner
498 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:10:34
Right, I hope that the club give Lampard the job tonight. He's the best we can hope for at the moment but for God's sake can this be the end of the sniping, bad blood, protests, criminal damage to the Old Lady and every supporter gets 100% behind Lampard and his managment team. Lampard will attract some decent signings and once he's got his knees under the table will restructure the backroom and club infrastructure to take us forward to where we all want to be.
Paul Smith
500 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:19:05
Seems like Fat Frank is a miracle worker according to some on here. He’s gonna restructure the whole club. The fella isn’t even our manager yet but he’s already done more than the previous five. Well he’s experienced enough having managed twice before.

Seriously I think he’s the best of the three but to expect him to sort the whole club out is nuts.

Soren Moyer
501 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:21:28
And how the hell didn't we sign Luis Diaz when we had the chance!?
Another fuck-up to add into our "good times" timeline!
Jonathan Tasker
502 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:26:20
Do you think the idiots who “run” the club have realised there’s something called the Transfer Window and that players are unlikely to be loaned / bought whilst there’s no manager ?
It’s not very important. I mean it’s only whether the club will stay up or not.
Well, we’ve had some good times, haven’t we.
Peter Neilson
503 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:29:20
Reports leaking out that the days final challenge is a medley from Dreamboats and Petticoats. Lampard has stormed out saying his acapella Don’t Cry For Me Argentina was sufficient and now they’re taking the piss.
Barry Hesketh
504 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:36:34
I still think that Usmanov and Moshiri will get the final say and it will be Pierira who gets the job. How many of us would really have put Lampard's name in the frame just a month ago? Whomever is chosen at this juncture doesn't really matter as long as they can get the required number of points to keep us up. The fans will get behind the new boss regardless, because if they don't it will be detrimental to the club in the short-term and perhaps fatal in the long-term.

The worrying part of this whole process is the way that it's been handled and the belief that putting a few 'old boys' in positions of responsibility because they get the club, despite the fact that only Sharp knows what it's like to win a major trophy.

Phil Malone Jnr
505 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:40:08
Still hoping moysey pops up from behind big Dunc and says "BOO! Fuck off west ham, now give us some fuckin $$ to spend farhad, ya minted Vic Reeves looking bastard!"
Joe McMahon
506 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:43:29
I hope this isn't false, but rumours Twitter its Frank, Duncan as assistant but Duncan will take the Brentford game?
Peter Carpenter
507 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:44:06
Still not done? Unbelievable. What tossers they really are. Do they realise we are a laughing stock?
Pat Kelly
508 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:45:44
Says a lot for the Board when Usmanov is brought in to decide who should be the next manager. Does this happen anywhere else ? What exactly is Usmanov's role. Business partner of Moshiri ? Is he even a minority a shareholder ? Or maybe the real beneficiary of the ownership ?
Brian Harrison
509 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:49:06
So on a day that we are to appoint a new manager to hopefully maintain our Premier league status, we appoint Tim Cahill as an employee to work on the technical side of the first team, what does that even mean.

Sir John Moores must be turning in his grave at these muppets who now run the club. There are 3 candidates because Wayne had the good sense to say no thanks, Duncan Ferguson who has been at the club many years so why they have to drag him to interview him is nonsensical, and if they were prepared to let him have the job till the end of the season then why go through this charade. Also if its only till the end of the season does that mean we go through this process again in 4 months. Vito Pereira who is probably the least attractive of the options given by the time he asses the squad and plays different players in different formations just like his predecessor did we might be in a worse position.
Frank Lampard is relatively inexperienced but in his short spell as manager in the Premier league has got his team to 4th in the league and to an FA Cup final. In his 2nd season they were top of the league in December and top of their Champions league group. then they only won 2 of the next 8 and was replaced by Tuchel. So just looking at the possible candidates why hasnt Lampard been offered the job.

Bill Gienapp
510 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:50:32
Someone on Twitter joked that this is like picking the Pope - watch for blue smoke!
Sam Hoare
511 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:50:41
I definitely have reservations about Lampard and believe his tenure at Derby especially is overrated. I have strong concerns over his ability to organise our defense. Out of him, Pereira and Ferguson he probably shades it as the sensible choice but I’m surprised at how positive people are being about him given that in neither of his last two jobs did he exceed his predecessor.

He’d struggle to do much worse than Benitez though and as others have said the potential upside could be big. He’s definitely the ‘type’ of manager I would like.

He should bring some decent coaches with him and hopefully has learnt a bit in his year out. A bit of set piece organisation wouldn’t go amiss.

Much might depend on who he brings in over the weekend. Loftus-Cheek could be useful if fit but any energetic and progressive central midfielder would help.

Andrew Keatley
512 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:53:43
Pat (508) - You don’t think Usmanov has been running things all along and Moshiri is just his more acceptable public face?

How many other accountants do you know that are billionaires?

Brian Harrison
513 Posted 28/01/2022 at 18:58:46
Watched a clip earlier of Kenwright, Sharpe, Cahill, DBB, and Ingles getting into a people carrier, they looked like a group of contestants on the Apprentice. Maybe when they make their decision later tonight they should all be invited into Sugars boardroom, were he could say why the fuck did you select him, oh bollocks your all fired.
Brian Murray
514 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:01:47
In the sky footage I was half expecting sharpy to throw his coat over a puddle for bill who was struggling to see his mobile without having Clyde orangutan arms. Total farce of a club. Bk out.
Jerome Shields
515 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:02:31
Lampard is a known quantity and may be able to sort out midfield.At the moment it could be stated that the Manager is this least of Evertons problems.A Manager who has fan and Media support, wanting to play better football would be a asset and allow the light to shine on the actual Club Management onshore and offshore, the real problem at the Club.The other two candidates would be more of the same and are recognised as being so.
Peter Carpenter
516 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:03:21
They're in Bill's favourite west end restaurant. Bill is surreptitiously sliding the bill towards Mosh.
Cahill (impatiently): Shouldn't we make the announcement? It's getting on.
DBB (adoringly): Oh, one more story about the boys pen, please, Bill.
Sharpe: Aye, go on Mr Kenwright.
Bill (faking bashfulness): Oh, well, if you're twisting my arm...
Moshiri looks to the heavens and quietly slips out, heading for Heathrow and leaving the bill behind.
Pat Kelly
517 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:04:13
So is Tim Cahill being appointed as some kind of DoF to appease the fans and as a fait accompli before the new manager is finalised ?
Alex Gray
518 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:07:42
Just announce a bloody manager we have two days left in the transfer window! What club needs to interview three plus times??
Joe McMahon
519 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:08:01
Just on Sky Now its NOT Frank, but it was on Twitter so may be false
Colin Glassar
520 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:09:06
Peter 507, they still haven’t had their pud yet! After the sticky toffee pudding (our new motto?) comes the coffee, then the cognac and then the big fat cigars. Only then they will get onto the business at hand. Midnight at the earliest.
Jim Bennings
521 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:10:13
This club is an absolute mess.

Why the hell do they drag Duncan Ferguson all the way down to London for an interview, do they not know what he's about by now?

Absolute mess, this club will be relegated this season and frankly they deserve it.

Colin Glassar
522 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:10:38
Rhubarb, Joe!!
John Raftery
523 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:15:22
Brian (509) I have been reading ‘Boys From The Blue Stuff’ by Gavin Buckland. It includes an account of the dithering and dallying with which Sir John Moores managed the hiring of Bingham and Lee in the seventies. There was no plan for either recruitment exercises and plenty of delay before they were appointed. Neither of them was first choice, far from it in fact.

I heartily recommend the book. It reminded me our club’s governance was not always as smooth and efficient as some imagine.

Danny O’Neill
524 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:16:02
If they end up announcing Ferguson, this will be a farce beyond even Everton's very own low standards.

No status. No optimism as the banner stated.

Until we play Brentford in the cup.

Jerome Shields
525 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:17:00
It looks like Moshiri has decided on Pereira and everyone is trying to take him out of it. Usmanov hasn't phoned him yet to tell him who the Manager will be.
Brent Stephens
526 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:22:23
Danny #524 "If they end up announcing Ferguson, this will be a farce beyond even Everton's very own low standards."

Danny, I'm almost getting to the point where I hardly care - just get on with it, whoever it might be, even Ferguson. Farcical.

Peter Neilson
527 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:22:30
Jim (521) I genuinely doubt that Moshiri and Usmanov do know what Ferguson’s about. The pair of them thought this football club ownership lark looked easy when they had shares but no power at Arsenal. It’s not necessarily even the first issue on their minds when they wake up.
Ed Prytherch
528 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:22:41
Andrew - agree on that. Usmanov the gangster and racketeer and Moshiri his obedient accountant - Fat Man and Robbin.
Grant Rorrison
529 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:27:43
May as well just give the job to Ferguson. Or let him stay as temp until the summer. I don't see the calibre of names being mentioned achieving anything. We've tried big names and they've failed and we've tried up and coming ones and they've failed too.
Danny O’Neill
530 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:32:40
I didn't mean that to be anti-Ferguson by the way. It's just if it was going to be him or is going to be him, just do it.

Like you Brent, me and the dogs are past caring. Just do something. Act. Even if it is just to steady the Titanic and avoid the iceberg. Regroup in the summer.

I know it's not in the Everton board's vernacular, but be decisive and make a decision.

Dave Lynch
531 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:34:23
If its Pereira there will be carnage at this club.
The mans a fucking maniac. He won't have to insight a riot, well have our own.
Peter Carpenter
532 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:37:21
They won't even do this tonight will they? Running out of words to describe this.
Pat Kelly
533 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:39:37
SSN saying the Board has adjourned so Kenwright can watch Corrie.
Tony Hill
534 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:39:43
If we do not support whoever is appointed then we will be relegated. That much is our choice alone.
Peter Carpenter
535 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:42:25
Pat (533) Shit it's an hour long episode tonight.
Oliver Molloy
536 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:43:32
Let's get the Wayne Rooney stuff right - he said

“Everton approached my agent and asked me to interview for the vacant job, which I turned down,” Rooney said. “I believe I will be a Premier League manager – I believe I’m ready for that, 100%. And if that is with Everton one day in the future that would be absolutely great. But I’ve got a job here that I’m doing at Derby County which is an important job to me.”

So he was approached and invited to "interview" for the job - he was NOT being offered the job, if the club had said to his agent we want Rooney to be our next manager - Rooney would have said yes and wouldn't have gave one feck about Derby in my opinion.

The general opinion is Rooney is doing some job at Derby, but is he, will Derby stay up ?

I would be interested in how people think about this.
For me, there is absolutely NO PRESSURE on Rooney with their massive points deduction and this reflects on the team - nobody is expecting Derby to stay up so the players just go out and play. We see it every year in the PL, teams that are already relegated suddenly playing decent football when the pressure is off and winning a few games against teams well above them.

I think Rooney just playing his cards right for now !

Brian Murray
537 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:45:53
Dave. Hate this turmoil but for the greater good it needs breaking point to get rid of usual suspect( s ). No one takes us seriously just hope we somehow get these six wins without it yet again giving the oxygen for kenright to survive. That’s the big danger because fans by nature are fickle.
Jamie Crowley
538 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:47:08
Oliver -

Not only that, but if Rooney left Derby, after doing an incredible job to keep them up with a 21 point reduction, he'd be 100% absolutely abandoning that Club and fanbase.

In short, it would be a monumentally shitty thing to do!

I don't want someone capable of doing something that awful managing Everton.

Stefan Busby
539 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:48:28
So how come Tim has just popped up in this charade?

I'm not knocking him, glad he's involved (maybe) but what the merry feck is going on?

Have Mosh and the board been on a khet binge since FSW's sacking and finally climbing out the hole they have dug.

I despair!

Dale Self
540 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:51:33
While we are all feeling like a Monty Python 16 ton weight has been dropped on us let's take a breath and a moment to consider who takes the biggest hit here, Moshiri. Maybe it had to get to this point for him and the man behind the screen to realize Everton is somewhat bigger than them and while their asset sheets could survive their reputations would not. That's not really an upside that makes it worth while but the days of finding the right fall guy are fucking over.
Marc Hints
541 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:53:39
Well Fabrizio on twitter said in the next hours it will be announced
Tony Everan
542 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:54:15
Please god let Frank Lampard be a success, this farcical process is something I don’t want repeating any time soon. Does any other club on the planet have this tortuous drawn out procedure. The only pleasure left at the moment is watching the likes of Warrington, Dobbin, Whitaker, Paterson on Monday playing well for the u23s.
Geoff Lambert
543 Posted 28/01/2022 at 19:57:06
Just got in after a long day at work. First call ToffeeWeb to see who the new manager is. FFS whats going on???
Jamie Crowley
545 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:00:45
Geoff -

It's 3 p.m. here, and I logged on for the exact same reason.

I also had the exact same response.

What. The. Fuck.

I'm usually one to side on taking time with an appointment, as it's so damn important at the level we're discussing. But man this is a complete circus.

This will absolutely be made into a production by Bill. I can only hope it's a musical to convey the sheer enormity of the ridiculousness of it all!

It's gone past embarrassing and entered comical.

Jamie Crowley
546 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:06:21
And I have a terrible, sneaking suspicion our next manager will be Pereira.

Something stinks about all this. It smacks of an owner kicking back money to a less-than-holy unethical agent representing a clown.

When I get home from work, I'm having a drink.

Neil Copeland
547 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:07:46
Marc #541, I wonder if he meant 2, 12, 24, 48 or did he actually mean weeks?
Brian Wilkinson
548 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:09:06
Well my assumption is Frank will get the gig, now discussing Ferguson being number two, persuading Frank to take him on for now, before putting Dunc on the board next season.

Would have laughed this off a few seasons back, not anymore.

Marc Hints
549 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:10:48
Neil that made me laugh I just tweated him and said almost the same thing
Jerome Shields
550 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:11:10
On Twitter. Lampard to be named Manager in next few hours.Paperwork for contracts of his Professional Coaching team being signed at the moment.Don't know if true or not.
Brian Hennessy
551 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:15:07
Lampard on the way and bringing Kante and Lukaku with him.
Delph and Iwobi heading to Chelsea as part of the deal.
Neil Copeland
552 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:18:18
Brian #551, we would obviously be wanting at least £20m as well
Peter Carpenter
553 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:21:14
Lots of piss taking on Twitter.
Pat Kelly
554 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:25:29
It's going to be a long night. And then the final round of interviews tomorrow.
Christy Ring
555 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:26:29
What should be a straightforward decision Lampard our board leave us waiting and waiting hope there’s not a twist typical
Geoff Lambert
556 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:27:59
Got SS News on TV, Everton site on my phone and ToffeeWeb on the laptop. The missus has taken the dogs for a walk.
Luke Welch
557 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:29:18
Think this has gone on a tad too long, there's going to be a sting in the tail because there obviously not sold on anyone in particular.

Think Dunc will get to the end of the season.

Barry Hesketh
558 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:31:09
It was very awkward and it was a shame because at a moment where we should have been celebrating we were like, 'what's going on?'

Our reaction later on when we hear who is named the new boss. That quote was about La La Land being wrongly named as best film.

Geoff Lambert
559 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:31:59
My Mate who works at Lpool Airport has just seen someone in brown shoes legging it from a Belgian flight in to a taxi. the plot thickens.
Tony Everan
560 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:32:04
Pat, I forgot they haven’t even done the Breakfast Interviews yet.

Bill “How do yer like yer eggs Frank?”

Frank “Err..a bit gooey Bill”

Bill raises eyebrow knowingly and makes a scribble in his notebook.

Rob Halligan
561 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:33:15
So Kenwright thinks sacking the board is not the answer. Well Bill, going on tonight’s fiasco, I reckon sacking the board is definitely the answer!
Darren Hind
562 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:33:38
Taxi drivers think the big fella has been given the nod.
Barry Hesketh
563 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:35:34
Darren @ 562
That's probably a good shout, Taxi Drivers tend to know everything about everything.
Paul Smith
564 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:36:16
Behave Darren Hind.
Peter Carpenter
565 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:36:30
I'm beginning to think they are undecided.
Geoff Lambert
566 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:36:58
No Live forum tonight??
Pat Kelly
567 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:37:03
Ferguson has emerged from the hotel holding up a board. Three hours added time. At least now we know why he's there.
Rob Halligan
568 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:38:54
Barry # 563…….except the best route home. They always make a slight detour!!!
Brent Stephens
569 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:39:29
Pat "Ferguson has emerged from the hotel holding up a board. Three hours added time."

Pat, I can think of a board I'd like him to take down.

Julian Exshaw
570 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:41:10
This is like 'who shot JR?', back in the day..
Darren Hind
571 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:42:08
Indeed Barry, They do tend to be a couple of hours ahead.

I think we will all get to the stage when we don't give a fuck who gets it.


Just give us a fucken name to get behind

Jim Bennings
572 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:43:07
I have just had a phonecall from Everton, apparently they want to know if my cat can come for an interview for the job, apparently Moshi thinks he's purrrrfect!!!!
Brendan McLaughlin
573 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:43:41
Tony#560

Bill "How do you like your eggs Ducan?"

Ducan "Poached...like a good tap in, Bill"

Bills eye's moisten as he scores Ducan full marks for yet another perfect answer.

Rob Halligan
574 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:43:52
I’ve got me Sister Sledge song “Frankie” on standby for when he’s announced!!
Peter Carpenter
575 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:46:24
Mosh: Now?
Bill: No, not yet. Another few hours and they'll be totally broken.
Mosh: Breakfast time?
Bill: Yes, they'll take anyone then.
Darren Hind
576 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:48:02
Yep sounding like its gonna be the big fella..

Spare a thought for poor arl Brendan...He's going to have to come to terms with the fact there is an N in the middle of his name

Geoff Lambert
577 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:48:39
Why are we waiting
why can't we start changing
why are we waiting
always so frustrating
why are we waiting
we need rearranging
why are we waiting
Sa ak the board.
Geoff Lambert
578 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:51:22
Bookies never far wrong Frank odds on across the board
Joe Corgan
579 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:54:38
Brian Murray
580 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:54:57
Said before and say again I hope all this a sideshow for big influx of players already sorted and ready to hold up the shirt. Tim would insist on them at least acting professional for once. Bk out
Soren Moyer
581 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:55:38
Please let it be pereira! Please let it be pereira! 🤞🤞🤞
Lol.
Geoff Lambert
582 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:55:58
Lampard it is then
Oliver Molloy
583 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:56:44
Jamie,
Don't think Rooney would care to be honest. So imagine down the line that Rooney is one day managing Everton and doing a decent job, and Utd come a calling !

Regards the manager's position, the more I think about it the more I believe this owner and his buddy will not give one toss about fan pressure.
I stand to be corrected but I can not think of any football club who let the fans pick their new manager - perhaps Solskjær !

I've said it before and will do so again, Moshiri likes to do things his way and I suspect he will do so again.

Rob Halligan
584 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:57:11
Hearing the majority want Lampard. Pereira out of the running. Only one member of the voters wants Duncan, along with Bainsey, Ebbrell, Jose Baxter and Franny Jeffers. And he ain’t gonna budge!!
Brian Hennessy
585 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:57:21
And the winner is FRANK
Colin Glassar
586 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:57:42
I think we’ll find out who really killed JFK before we know who our latest manager is.
Neil Copeland
587 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:58:09
Soren, not funny 😁
Tony Everan
588 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:58:11
Is it a done deal ? El Bobble is very reliable

Frank Lampard it is.


https://mobile.twitter.com/EvertonBlueArmy/status/1487167392899809280?cxt=HHwWgICy9am3vaMpAAAA

Danny O’Neill
589 Posted 28/01/2022 at 20:59:30
Just name whoever it is Everton. Stop the circus so the circus can continue

I'm guessing the big fellah those taxi drivers were referring to was big Frank Lampard?

Marc Hints
590 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:01:26
It's Frank Lampard
Soren Moyer
591 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:06:01
It's NOT Frank Lampard.
Will Mabon
592 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:08:16
It's NOT over.
Mike Price
593 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:10:28
Everton have fucked my Dry January plans right up.
Geoff Lambert
594 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:13:05
Lampard Now 1/50 with sky bet it's over.
Marc Hints
595 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:15:30
It is Frank Lampard it's being reported by nearly all media
Marc Hints
596 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:16:58
It is Frank Lampard it's being reported by nearly all media i7
Rob Halligan
597 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:18:53
Richarlison has tweeted he’s happy with the appointment of Lampard. 👍👍👍
Brian Williams
598 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:20:23
Pereira, shortest managerial career in Everton history. Hired Tuesday, sacked on Friday. 🤣
Tony Hill
599 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:20:54
Looks like it will be Frank. If so, I'm delighted. A proper football man, a member of the best Premier League side I have seen (2004-2005) and someone who I think will click superbly with the fans.

He will also keep us up. It's about him, his team and us now; let's ignore all the rest of the shite.

Colin Glassar
600 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:23:12
Welcome aboard Frankie. Good luck mate👍🙏🙏
Colin Glassar
601 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:23:14
Welcome aboard Frankie. Good luck mate👍🙏🙏
Steve Dickinson
602 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:25:27
Bloody marvellous if it’s Frank. COYB!
Ron Marr
603 Posted 28/01/2022 at 21:37:19
Effing great! Good luck Frank. COYB!
Brent Stephens
604 Posted 28/01/2022 at 22:05:27
While we're still waiting...
...on the programme QI tonight it said that there was a televised football match in Scotland with one of the cameras being an AI camera, used to automatically follow the football (as in the round object). Apparently in this one game the camera picked up the bald head of a linesman and followed that around!
Joe McMahon
605 Posted 28/01/2022 at 22:22:55
This is the happiest I've been about a manager appointment since Joe Royle, Just Grand! Welcome Frank, and boy do wee need you, a proper modern day legend!

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