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Okay, I’ll preface this by repeating that I don’t think TFG will make the change. I think David Moyes will be Everton manager next season, rightly or wrongly.
But there is a discussion in the fanbase right now about who should come next, and there are some potentially intriguing selections on the market right now.
To keep it simple, I’ve kept this list to those who are now out of work and readily available. And no, Pep Guardiola is not included!
So, here’s a few available managers who perhaps could be Everton’s next boss, if TFG decided to act soon.
ANDONI IRAOLA
It seems as though Iraola would be the go-to pick for the majority of Everton fans who want to see a change made.
He has worked wonders with Bournemouth, guiding them to a sixth-place finish this season, securing European qualification for the first time in their history, despite seeing the club sell the likes of Dango Ouattara, Milos Kerkez, Dean Huijsen, Ilya Zabarnyi and Antoine Semenyo.
Iraola’s high-octane approach seems to fit in with the football Evertonians want to see.
Bournemouth finished the season as the fifth-best team for xG (essentially, the fifth-best chance creators in the Premier League), with 61.9 (they scored 58 goals).
However, on the flip side, they were fifth-worst for xG against (56.7), conceding 54 times. Yet despite Moyes’ more pragmatic approach, Everton’s xGA came in at 56.5, with the Toffees shipping 50 goals.
Across his three seasons with the Cherries, Iraola’s team regularly ranked highly for xG — they do give up chances, but they create plenty going the other way, and he is not overly obsessed with possession. His tactics are direct and he wants his side to play at speed.
But perhaps the biggest upside to Iraola compared to Moyes is his willingness to utilise younger players. If TFG’s strategy really is to buy young and develop future stars, then they may not be able to afford to miss this chance.
OLIVER GLASNER
Another name on plenty of lips is Glasner, who is leaving Crystal Palace.
Glasner led Palace to their first major trophy when the Eagles won the FA Cup last season. He followed that up by conquering Liverpool in the Community Shield and on Wednesday, he could well win another trophy, with Palace taking on Rayo Vallecano in the Conference League final.
There’s a lot to like about Glasner. He has had success in his last two jobs and the step up to Everton could be a natural one.
However, for those craving a long-term solution, I’m not sure he provides it.
Glasner’s fuse blew earlier this season, as he let rip at Palace’s board for selling Eberechi Eze so late in the summer window. He stood firm on the club keeping Marc Guehi, but then had to watch him be sold in January.
By then, Glasner had made his mind up that he was not renewing his contract, but the announcement was a bit of a mess and came amid a time when Palace crashed out of the FA Cup to minnows Macclesfield and were in danger of getting dragged into a relegation scrap.
Matters seemed to come to a head when it seemed Glasner would walk away early, but he agreed to carry on and the focus on the Conference League paid off, at least in terms of reaching the final.
However, Palace have had their worst Premier League finish since 2015-16 (15th) and only Burnley and Wolves scored fewer top-flight goals this season. Like Moyes, Glasner is not particularly keen to make substitutes and does not tend to operate with a bigger squad.
His Palace team also prefer to play without the ball (they averaged the 15th-most possession in the Premier League this season, whereas Everton ranked 17th), so, perhaps the transition would be smoother, but with the Austrian, it could just be similar to Moyes, albeit perhaps with a winning edge.
THOMAS FRANK
A year ago, Frank would have seemed like a shoo-in. Now, he could be considered as somewhat damaged goods.
He was not the problem at Tottenham, but his style of play did not gel with their supporters or some of their players, albeit those same players must take the blame for their dismal season.
Frank, though, has proved what a good manager he is during his time at Brentford. He has worked brilliantly in a data-led set-up, and his approach probably wouldn’t be quite as disgruntling for Evertonians.
The Dane has also been full of praise for Everton in the past, and would definitely understand the scale of the club, and perhaps would have extra fire in his belly after his torrid time at Spurs.
ANTONIO CONTE
This one’s hugely unlikely, but let’s chuck it in for a bit of fun.
Conte, after a typically explosive, but successful, stint at Napoli, is leaving the Serie A club. He led them to the title in 2024-25, and a second-place finish this time around.
TFG, owners of Roma, of course, will be well aware of Conte’s work in Italy, and if they want a proven champion, then they do not come much better.
But, Conte demands financial backing. He doesn’t want control of transfers as such, but he wants his owners to put their hands in their pockets and build the squad to his standards; he is not afraid to point out when he feels he has been let down.
Given TFG already have their hands full with Gian Piero Gasperini at Roma, and that Conte would demand a huge financial package, we can file this one under “extremely unlikely”.
MASSIMILIANO ALLEGRI
Another Italian veteran on the market is Allegri, who has been dismissed by Milan on the back of a failure to secure Champions League qualification.
Allegri has won all there is to win in Italian football, mainly with Juventus during the Old Lady’s period of dominance, and would bring the experience TGF seem to crave.
But his return to Milan did not go according to plan, and the 58-year-old is probably not the calibre of manager he once was.
Still, he would be a big name, but while Conte would be an extraordinary, if ultimately doomed, ride, it feels like appointing Allegri over any of the others on this list would be a step in the wrong direction.
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Mark Ryan
2 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:45:33
2 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:45:33
Ian @1.
TFG have already shown their hand by not sacking him after the last game. We are stuck with him, sad as that sounds and, like the Spurs hierarchy, footballing prowess is TFG's main agenda, at least not for now.
Spurs appear to have woken up and smelt the coffee and that started with getting Roberto De Zerbi through the door. They will be top 6 next season, mark my words, and we... well, TFG have not smelt the coffee because, where we are concerned, footballing wise, they are sound asleep.
TFG have already shown their hand by not sacking him after the last game. We are stuck with him, sad as that sounds and, like the Spurs hierarchy, footballing prowess is TFG's main agenda, at least not for now.
Spurs appear to have woken up and smelt the coffee and that started with getting Roberto De Zerbi through the door. They will be top 6 next season, mark my words, and we... well, TFG have not smelt the coffee because, where we are concerned, footballing wise, they are sound asleep.
Neil Cremin
3 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:46:50
3 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:46:50
Before I post, I do think we need to change manager after our dismal end-of-season performance but I have no idea who that should be. However, reading this piece brought a few probably unpopular thoughts to mind.
For Iraola... remember Martinez?
For Glasner... remember Silva?
For Frank... remember Lampard?
For Conti... remember Koeman?
For Allegri... remember Ancellotti
I don't mean to be negative. I will back any manager we decide to appoint... but they will be judged on their results. Frank was a favourite last year and we see how he performed at Spurs and more interestingly we saw how his successor did at Brentford after losing top players.
Whoever we appoint must be decided on a clear playing philosophy and backed by bringing in the right players to deliver. We really need our recruitment to step up to the mark and discover some really good Premier League ready players.
I'm not as confident as Mike Gaynes is that this will happen but I hope I'm wrong. This summer will tell us a lot.
For Iraola... remember Martinez?
For Glasner... remember Silva?
For Frank... remember Lampard?
For Conti... remember Koeman?
For Allegri... remember Ancellotti
I don't mean to be negative. I will back any manager we decide to appoint... but they will be judged on their results. Frank was a favourite last year and we see how he performed at Spurs and more interestingly we saw how his successor did at Brentford after losing top players.
Whoever we appoint must be decided on a clear playing philosophy and backed by bringing in the right players to deliver. We really need our recruitment to step up to the mark and discover some really good Premier League ready players.
I'm not as confident as Mike Gaynes is that this will happen but I hope I'm wrong. This summer will tell us a lot.
Andrew Clare
4 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:53:32
4 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:53:32
I agree, Spurs will be back challenging next season, while we will be boring everyone to death in the lower reaches of the table. If you opt for mediocrity, you will get mediocrity... and that's exactly what our ill-informed owners have done.
I am not looking forward to next season at all. Moyes should be gone; we are a great club being ruined by people who know nothing about football.
I am not looking forward to next season at all. Moyes should be gone; we are a great club being ruined by people who know nothing about football.
Mike Powell
5 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:25:46
5 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:25:46
Off the subject, how many on here are going to the Everton fans meet up on 27 June?
About 3 to 4 hundred turned up last year, they're trying to get more this year, it's a great day out.
About 3 to 4 hundred turned up last year, they're trying to get more this year, it's a great day out.
Mike Allison
6 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:27:21
6 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:27:21
Neil, I don’t see any relevance in your ‘equivalency list’, it makes no sense. All you’re saying is ‘changing manager is risky’. Well yeah, we all know that, but keeping Moyes, stagnating, and driving good young players away from the club is a much bigger risk.
Back to the options in the OP, Marco Silva is also available and would be better than Moyes. He made a promising start when he managed us before, I rate his team selection and tactics and he is 9 years more experienced (mostly in the Premier League) than last time.
All potential candidates come with caveats and risks and there’s always the risk that a change won’t work out. You have to ask yourself if the risk is worthwhile given the status quo. My answer is overwhelmingly ‘yes’. If Moyes stays I will be able to muster no excitement, enthusiasm or sense of hope about Everton. It won’t matter who we buy in the summer because Moyes won’t use them. We’ll see promising young players avoid us and the ones we’ve got will leave.
That last seven games of the season, with the same team selection and tactics failing repeatedly but not changing despite having 3 players out of position and talented young players being completely ignored, has to be the end of Moyes or else the entire club is effectively dead and just wants to accept mediocrity for ever as long as some money rolls in.
This is not a case of ‘needing a new striker’. This is a case of needing new ideas.
Back to the options in the OP, Marco Silva is also available and would be better than Moyes. He made a promising start when he managed us before, I rate his team selection and tactics and he is 9 years more experienced (mostly in the Premier League) than last time.
All potential candidates come with caveats and risks and there’s always the risk that a change won’t work out. You have to ask yourself if the risk is worthwhile given the status quo. My answer is overwhelmingly ‘yes’. If Moyes stays I will be able to muster no excitement, enthusiasm or sense of hope about Everton. It won’t matter who we buy in the summer because Moyes won’t use them. We’ll see promising young players avoid us and the ones we’ve got will leave.
That last seven games of the season, with the same team selection and tactics failing repeatedly but not changing despite having 3 players out of position and talented young players being completely ignored, has to be the end of Moyes or else the entire club is effectively dead and just wants to accept mediocrity for ever as long as some money rolls in.
This is not a case of ‘needing a new striker’. This is a case of needing new ideas.
Martin Farrington
7 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:28:39
7 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:28:39
Neil @ 3.
Spot on. I totally agree.
Everton is like being expected to build an F1 car from an HGV.
Spot on. I totally agree.
Everton is like being expected to build an F1 car from an HGV.
John Collins
8 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:51:00
8 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:51:00
Neil.
Is that the same Silva who's team have just finished above Everton?
Is that the same Silva who's team have just finished above Everton?
Brian Denton
9 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:53:15
9 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:53:15
Under Moyes we will never win anything. Under Moyes we will never get relegated.
It depends which of those features are more important, I guess.
It depends which of those features are more important, I guess.
Andrew Ellams
10 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:57:25
10 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:57:25
If Moyes is still in place by Saturday then we're stuck with him for next season.
Between that and what will probably be a very limited transfer budget it's gong to be a depressing summer.
Between that and what will probably be a very limited transfer budget it's gong to be a depressing summer.
Bill Griffiths
11 Posted 27/05/2026 at 11:09:21
11 Posted 27/05/2026 at 11:09:21
Mike (#5),
Where is this meet-up?
Where is this meet-up?
Dave Abrahams
12 Posted 27/05/2026 at 11:53:22
12 Posted 27/05/2026 at 11:53:22
Just as a matter of interest for those still making their minds up if Moyes should stay or go... on another Everton fans website, 629 fans have voted for keeping Moyes or letting him go.
67 have voted for him to stay
562 have voted for him to go.
Talking to fans around town, most are of the opinion to let him go and a few stating he keeps us safe although quite a few, those who go to game or those who watch us on the box, add “What's so special about him that you even have to think about keeping him?"
67 have voted for him to stay
562 have voted for him to go.
Talking to fans around town, most are of the opinion to let him go and a few stating he keeps us safe although quite a few, those who go to game or those who watch us on the box, add “What's so special about him that you even have to think about keeping him?"
Steve Brown
13 Posted 27/05/2026 at 11:57:37
13 Posted 27/05/2026 at 11:57:37
Neil @3, for Moyes remember Moyes.
If someone has been the same thing wthout results for 12 years as manager, he isn't going to change now.
There is always risk in change, but far more in paralysis.
If someone has been the same thing wthout results for 12 years as manager, he isn't going to change now.
There is always risk in change, but far more in paralysis.
Paul Hewitt
14 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:15:28
14 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:15:28
I think we should all get used to Moyes being here next season.
He will see out his last 12 months... and, if we don't make Europe, he will be let go.
He will see out his last 12 months... and, if we don't make Europe, he will be let go.
Phil Roberts
15 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:21:02
15 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:21:02
I sent a piece to ToffeeWeb which does challenge some of the narrative but as yet it, it has not appeared. Whether it will, who knows.
A lot of the negativity is because how the season ended. We had a reasonable first half but we have all forgotten that.
With 19 games gone, we were +9 points compared to the fixtures the previous season. If we had matched that in the remaining 19 games, we would have finished 6th and be in the Europa League...
And we would all be talking about Moyes has done a great job and next year we need to push on to Champions League - while still moaning about not playing like Barca at their best and winning 6-2 every match.
Our memories are short and our frustration of not matching the previous season is driving all our arguements. I wonder if TFG are looking at the whole season or also just the last 6 games?
A lot of the negativity is because how the season ended. We had a reasonable first half but we have all forgotten that.
With 19 games gone, we were +9 points compared to the fixtures the previous season. If we had matched that in the remaining 19 games, we would have finished 6th and be in the Europa League...
And we would all be talking about Moyes has done a great job and next year we need to push on to Champions League - while still moaning about not playing like Barca at their best and winning 6-2 every match.
Our memories are short and our frustration of not matching the previous season is driving all our arguements. I wonder if TFG are looking at the whole season or also just the last 6 games?
Harry Diamond
Editorial Team
16 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:28:57
Editorial Team
16 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:28:57
Hi Phil,
I'll check this for you. You can also send the piece to harry.diamond@moveup.media and I'll take a look.
Thanks.
I'll check this for you. You can also send the piece to harry.diamond@moveup.media and I'll take a look.
Thanks.
Mark Taylor
17 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:29:27
17 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:29:27
You need to pick a manager that matches the project you have.
I still don't know what our project is.
I still don't know what our project is.
Tony Abrahams
18 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:35:36
18 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:35:36
Just post it, Harry. It's really not fair Moyes getting all this stick because people have got short memories, so it would be interesting to see what Phil has written in his defence.
Good point, Mark, so taking a guess I think the most obvious answer would have to be stability?
Good point, Mark, so taking a guess I think the most obvious answer would have to be stability?
Mike Powell
19 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:45:42
19 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:45:42
Bill 11,
Meet up is the lockdown in North John Street, between 12 and 2... then on to the Caernarvon Castle at 2:30, then the Post Office about 4.
Meet up is the lockdown in North John Street, between 12 and 2... then on to the Caernarvon Castle at 2:30, then the Post Office about 4.
Stan Grace
20 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:47:03
20 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:47:03
Phil #15,
I agree that a season can't be judged by focussing on the last 7 games. However, looking at the whole season, Moyes has finished in the same position with one point more.
The suggestion of progress (and it is only a suggestion) and being close to European qualification has been based on the fact that many teams between 5th and 15th were on similar points for a time.
The difference is a number of those teams qualified and we ended up nowhere near.
In his first spell, there were even less rivals so finishing between 7th & 8th on average was no great feat.
I agree that a season can't be judged by focussing on the last 7 games. However, looking at the whole season, Moyes has finished in the same position with one point more.
The suggestion of progress (and it is only a suggestion) and being close to European qualification has been based on the fact that many teams between 5th and 15th were on similar points for a time.
The difference is a number of those teams qualified and we ended up nowhere near.
In his first spell, there were even less rivals so finishing between 7th & 8th on average was no great feat.
Soren Moyer
21 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:47:40
21 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:47:40
Well, the bad news is it's the end-of-season table that counts, not where a certain team was after 10 games!
Sack him... Sack him now!
Sack him... Sack him now!
Neil Cremin
22 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:51:47
22 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:51:47
John,
Are you suggesting Silva as an option? What happens to never going back??
Steve.
I had considered including that comparison.
Martin. This is my point. Our squad is limited and even those players we consider quality would find it hard to make a Pep managed side.
We need something new but reading the above OP, these thoughts came into my mind so I felt compelled to post it.
Are you suggesting Silva as an option? What happens to never going back??
Steve.
I had considered including that comparison.
Martin. This is my point. Our squad is limited and even those players we consider quality would find it hard to make a Pep managed side.
We need something new but reading the above OP, these thoughts came into my mind so I felt compelled to post it.
Mark Ryan
23 Posted 27/05/2026 at 13:00:09
23 Posted 27/05/2026 at 13:00:09
I cannot believe people think we were doing really well until the last 7 games.
This idiot manager dumped us out of the cup against Wolves and should have been sacked then. It was clear he simply wanted to focus on the Premier League and did not give a stuff about disappointing the fans whilst dumping us out of the cups.
He talks bollocks, week-in & week-out, and deserves sacking based on his appalling treatment of the squad players like Dibling, George, Aznou et al.
Everyone forgets we were doing really well???? Seriously, what a load of shite!
This idiot manager dumped us out of the cup against Wolves and should have been sacked then. It was clear he simply wanted to focus on the Premier League and did not give a stuff about disappointing the fans whilst dumping us out of the cups.
He talks bollocks, week-in & week-out, and deserves sacking based on his appalling treatment of the squad players like Dibling, George, Aznou et al.
Everyone forgets we were doing really well???? Seriously, what a load of shite!
Robert Tressell
24 Posted 27/05/2026 at 13:15:34
24 Posted 27/05/2026 at 13:15:34
Not posted for ages. Hope everyone is well.
Mark # 17 you have nailed it. It all depends on what the Friedkins are after - and over what timescale.
As the article notes, Moyes is more likely than not to still be here next season. That is not a disaster. It means we're highly likely not to get drawn into any sort of relegation battle and there will probably be some improvements in squad quality and (as a result) playing style.
That might well suit the Friedkins for another year as they continue to stabilise the club, improve the financials / commercials etc and hopefully lay more groundwork in things like scouting networks, data analytics, player development and the academy (i.e. all of the things which successful clubs have).
Very frustrating, I know, because it probably condemns us to another boring season.
However, to allow us all to dream a bit - hopefully the Friedkins will see that the club won't really benefit from more stability. We're now stable on and off the pitch. Moyes has done his job in that respect (and a decent enough one at that -- especially 2024-25).
However, sooner or later we need to transform ourselves from being a skint underdog (ie, the past 5 years) back to being a well-resourced (but not super-rich) club.
There's a really good opportunity to fast-forward that transformation simply because Iraola is available. He's been doing a good job in recent years, albeit backed by very substantial investment plus sophisticated recruitment and development which he has nothing to do with (bringing in Champions League quality players like Zabarnyi, Huijsen, Kerkez, Kroupi and Rayan).
However, this season he's had to oversee a rebuild and done extremely well. I was expecting them to do worse after selling 3/4 of a very good back 4. But he's ended up doing even better - and been brave enough to play Champions League style football / develop players in the process.
On top of that, he's been overlooked now by the likes of Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and Spurs. Palace, AC Milan and the RS are all rumoured to show interest but provided we can convince him of transfer kitty and recruitment and development support, I think there's a good chance that he'd join -- and to take us up a notch.
As an aside, I don't think Glasner is an especially good fit. We only have one fit centre-back who is quick and mobile enough to fit into his 3-4-3 formation. And we have no wing-backs. That's 4 or 5 new signings just to fix the defence. 3-4-3 also freezes out Dewsbury-Hall who wouldn't fit into the two-man central / defensive midfield.
The only other one I might make a case for is Kieran McKenna. Unlike a lot of managers who are massively flattered by brilliant club operations (see Brighton, Brentford and others) McKenna takes most of the credit for overseeing 3 promotions for Ipswich in 4 seasons. That's some going.
He also reminds me of Martinez, Rodgers and Kompany in his approach -- ie, he will play Champions League style football even if he doesn't have Champions League quality players.
At poorly resourced clubs that has ended in relegation - but we're not a poorly resourced club anymore. Look at what Kompany has achieved at Bayern after relegation with Burnley.
If Moyes is to stay, then hopefully the summer recruitment is geared up to a more big club style with his successor (which might be Kieran McKenna this time next year). There's no secret to this -- as with every club it's about avoiding massively over-priced and average players in the Premier League and hunting for players in:
- low cost overseas markets like France, South America and beyond
- less exotic low cost markets like the Championship and Scotland (the likes of Hayden Hackney, Dylan Lawlor and Ronan Kpakio)
- players being offloaded by relegated Premier League clubs (like Joao Gomes, Malick Diouf and Matheus Mane)
- younger players struggling for games at Champions League clubs (like Rico Lewis, Roony Bardghji and Franco Mastantuono)
Whatever the case though, soon we will be one of the richer clubs in the Premier League again, capable of routinely spending £200M or more (last season's Premier League average). We might have to kiss a few frogs, but once the investment is in place then it should be a matter of time before Europe, Champions League runs, Cup success etc all follow (just as it has for every other well resourced side in the Premier League).
Anyway, let's hope for a good summer and some real progress next time around (ie, Europe and / or a Cup trophy). It is well within grasp and long overdue.
Mark # 17 you have nailed it. It all depends on what the Friedkins are after - and over what timescale.
As the article notes, Moyes is more likely than not to still be here next season. That is not a disaster. It means we're highly likely not to get drawn into any sort of relegation battle and there will probably be some improvements in squad quality and (as a result) playing style.
That might well suit the Friedkins for another year as they continue to stabilise the club, improve the financials / commercials etc and hopefully lay more groundwork in things like scouting networks, data analytics, player development and the academy (i.e. all of the things which successful clubs have).
Very frustrating, I know, because it probably condemns us to another boring season.
However, to allow us all to dream a bit - hopefully the Friedkins will see that the club won't really benefit from more stability. We're now stable on and off the pitch. Moyes has done his job in that respect (and a decent enough one at that -- especially 2024-25).
However, sooner or later we need to transform ourselves from being a skint underdog (ie, the past 5 years) back to being a well-resourced (but not super-rich) club.
There's a really good opportunity to fast-forward that transformation simply because Iraola is available. He's been doing a good job in recent years, albeit backed by very substantial investment plus sophisticated recruitment and development which he has nothing to do with (bringing in Champions League quality players like Zabarnyi, Huijsen, Kerkez, Kroupi and Rayan).
However, this season he's had to oversee a rebuild and done extremely well. I was expecting them to do worse after selling 3/4 of a very good back 4. But he's ended up doing even better - and been brave enough to play Champions League style football / develop players in the process.
On top of that, he's been overlooked now by the likes of Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and Spurs. Palace, AC Milan and the RS are all rumoured to show interest but provided we can convince him of transfer kitty and recruitment and development support, I think there's a good chance that he'd join -- and to take us up a notch.
As an aside, I don't think Glasner is an especially good fit. We only have one fit centre-back who is quick and mobile enough to fit into his 3-4-3 formation. And we have no wing-backs. That's 4 or 5 new signings just to fix the defence. 3-4-3 also freezes out Dewsbury-Hall who wouldn't fit into the two-man central / defensive midfield.
The only other one I might make a case for is Kieran McKenna. Unlike a lot of managers who are massively flattered by brilliant club operations (see Brighton, Brentford and others) McKenna takes most of the credit for overseeing 3 promotions for Ipswich in 4 seasons. That's some going.
He also reminds me of Martinez, Rodgers and Kompany in his approach -- ie, he will play Champions League style football even if he doesn't have Champions League quality players.
At poorly resourced clubs that has ended in relegation - but we're not a poorly resourced club anymore. Look at what Kompany has achieved at Bayern after relegation with Burnley.
If Moyes is to stay, then hopefully the summer recruitment is geared up to a more big club style with his successor (which might be Kieran McKenna this time next year). There's no secret to this -- as with every club it's about avoiding massively over-priced and average players in the Premier League and hunting for players in:
- low cost overseas markets like France, South America and beyond
- less exotic low cost markets like the Championship and Scotland (the likes of Hayden Hackney, Dylan Lawlor and Ronan Kpakio)
- players being offloaded by relegated Premier League clubs (like Joao Gomes, Malick Diouf and Matheus Mane)
- younger players struggling for games at Champions League clubs (like Rico Lewis, Roony Bardghji and Franco Mastantuono)
Whatever the case though, soon we will be one of the richer clubs in the Premier League again, capable of routinely spending £200M or more (last season's Premier League average). We might have to kiss a few frogs, but once the investment is in place then it should be a matter of time before Europe, Champions League runs, Cup success etc all follow (just as it has for every other well resourced side in the Premier League).
Anyway, let's hope for a good summer and some real progress next time around (ie, Europe and / or a Cup trophy). It is well within grasp and long overdue.
Stu Gre
25 Posted 27/05/2026 at 13:48:07
25 Posted 27/05/2026 at 13:48:07
Phil would be good to read your opposing article. Never seem to be able to find fan articles anymore. The link inthe menu is broken for me.
I am biased because I think Moyes is fantastic at mid table stability, but not what we need now. I wanted him gone first time around and think he has broken our club, but would be grateful to read an eloquent opposing view.
For me TFG need to make a decision on building a team around a new manager and stick with it. Be honest with the fans and say "this could get bumpy, but we aren't backing down because this is a long term goal."
That could mean flirting with relegation but there is a 5 year plan to get to the top.
Moyes has had that luxury before and never quite made it. The law of averages says he should have won more so Imo he needs to go now.
If the board had held its nerve with Martinez or Silva and fully backed their way of working, perhaps it would be baring fruit now.
I think it should be a manager young enough to see that through, elder statesmen should stick to already successfulclubs (Allegri) or, in the case or Moyes, Allardyce, Pullis and Warnock - clubs which want mid table safety as best as you can guarantee.
I am biased because I think Moyes is fantastic at mid table stability, but not what we need now. I wanted him gone first time around and think he has broken our club, but would be grateful to read an eloquent opposing view.
For me TFG need to make a decision on building a team around a new manager and stick with it. Be honest with the fans and say "this could get bumpy, but we aren't backing down because this is a long term goal."
That could mean flirting with relegation but there is a 5 year plan to get to the top.
Moyes has had that luxury before and never quite made it. The law of averages says he should have won more so Imo he needs to go now.
If the board had held its nerve with Martinez or Silva and fully backed their way of working, perhaps it would be baring fruit now.
I think it should be a manager young enough to see that through, elder statesmen should stick to already successfulclubs (Allegri) or, in the case or Moyes, Allardyce, Pullis and Warnock - clubs which want mid table safety as best as you can guarantee.
Liam Mogan
26 Posted 27/05/2026 at 14:16:09
26 Posted 27/05/2026 at 14:16:09
The problem with Jaded Moyes is Moyes himself.
Not expectation, not recruitment, not competition, not anything else.
No matter the resources, the club, the players, he will play exactly the same way. He will dumb down our chances. He will move the goalposts weekly. He will gaslight the fanbase. He will ignore perfectly valid criticism.
He has done so for 28 seasons at numerous clubs. Its never him, its 'something else'. An average manager in the 2000s, a mediocre one in the modern era. With a complete inability to adapt or invent. A has-been with an enormous ego.
He didnt 'save' us, Sean Dyche did that. The Jaded One just jumped onto a re-birth and proceeded to bring it down to his level of incapacity.
Unfortunately he's going nowhere. Next season will be a rinse and repeat of this. Dull football, occasional hope harpooned by misery, an undermining of expectation and a narcissistic inability to address any critique.
Not expectation, not recruitment, not competition, not anything else.
No matter the resources, the club, the players, he will play exactly the same way. He will dumb down our chances. He will move the goalposts weekly. He will gaslight the fanbase. He will ignore perfectly valid criticism.
He has done so for 28 seasons at numerous clubs. Its never him, its 'something else'. An average manager in the 2000s, a mediocre one in the modern era. With a complete inability to adapt or invent. A has-been with an enormous ego.
He didnt 'save' us, Sean Dyche did that. The Jaded One just jumped onto a re-birth and proceeded to bring it down to his level of incapacity.
Unfortunately he's going nowhere. Next season will be a rinse and repeat of this. Dull football, occasional hope harpooned by misery, an undermining of expectation and a narcissistic inability to address any critique.
Ian Horan
27 Posted 27/05/2026 at 14:42:29
27 Posted 27/05/2026 at 14:42:29
My local McDonald's is closed for a refurbishment, Phil the manager there is at a loose end.
He would be just as good as the "Moyessiah" over the past 7 weeks...
He would be just as good as the "Moyessiah" over the past 7 weeks...
John Collins
28 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:12:42
28 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:12:42
Neil.
I'm suggesting a manager you give stick to,while supporting Moyes has just finished higher than him.
I would swap Silva for Moyes tomorrow. In fact, I would appoint his Uncle Long John before letting Moyes carry on as manager.
I'm suggesting a manager you give stick to,while supporting Moyes has just finished higher than him.
I would swap Silva for Moyes tomorrow. In fact, I would appoint his Uncle Long John before letting Moyes carry on as manager.
John Collins
29 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:14:04
29 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:14:04
Phil.
Are you resorting to good (?) half-seasons in defense of the manager?
Are you resorting to good (?) half-seasons in defense of the manager?
Alan Polak
30 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:32:19
30 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:32:19
Easily the best replacement for Moyes is Sarina Wiegman.
Her team Barcelona, the European Champions, play exciting and skilful football. Can you even imagine what it would be like to win at Anfield with her as manager?
Her team Barcelona, the European Champions, play exciting and skilful football. Can you even imagine what it would be like to win at Anfield with her as manager?
Pete Hughes
31 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:34:51
31 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:34:51
On the plus side, if (god forbid) Moyes is still here next season, we won't have to worry about booking hotel rooms close to Wembley!
Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
32 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:37:18
Editorial Team
32 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:37:18
Scouring ToffeeWeb Towers as I type, searching all the nooks and crannies, but still no sign of Phil's mysterious article "In praise of the Moyesiah, Our Supreme Leader."
Perhaps he's been nobbled by The Cartel...
Perhaps he's been nobbled by The Cartel...
Alan Polak
33 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:41:59
33 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:41:59
I would be happy if Sarina Wiegman replaced Moyes today.
We would be lucky to get her.
We would be lucky to get her.
Jay Harris
34 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:01:04
34 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:01:04
First of all, may I say it's really good to see Robert #24 posting again. His breadth of knowledge of all things football is second to none.
Personally speaking, I think we need to plan for Moyes's succession but I would leave him in place for next season because I feel we don't have enough stability just yet.
In terms of replacements, I would look at the German market as their coaches seem to do well in the UK.
I was watching Stuttgart play Bayern the other day and was impressed with Sebastian Hoeness and his style of play so I checked out his record and he is certainly got good pedigree.
Having said that, I do feel that Moyes has not had the full support from above in that we were obviously lacking a goalscorer and a right-back to name but two in what was already a threadbare squad.
One other thing I would criticize Moyes for is bringing his now departed mate in as defensive coach, a position that we still haven't got right.
Our defending from set pieces is nothing short of a shambles!!!
Personally speaking, I think we need to plan for Moyes's succession but I would leave him in place for next season because I feel we don't have enough stability just yet.
In terms of replacements, I would look at the German market as their coaches seem to do well in the UK.
I was watching Stuttgart play Bayern the other day and was impressed with Sebastian Hoeness and his style of play so I checked out his record and he is certainly got good pedigree.
Having said that, I do feel that Moyes has not had the full support from above in that we were obviously lacking a goalscorer and a right-back to name but two in what was already a threadbare squad.
One other thing I would criticize Moyes for is bringing his now departed mate in as defensive coach, a position that we still haven't got right.
Our defending from set pieces is nothing short of a shambles!!!
Harry Diamond
Editorial Team
35 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:08:10
Editorial Team
35 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:08:10
Tony @19
Just post it, Harry. It's really not fair Moyes getting all this stick because people have got short memories, so it would be interesting to see what Phil has written in his defence.
It hasn't been posted for any reason other than it's not showing on the dashboard. If Phil can send it to me via the email, I'll upload it.
Just post it, Harry. It's really not fair Moyes getting all this stick because people have got short memories, so it would be interesting to see what Phil has written in his defence.
It hasn't been posted for any reason other than it's not showing on the dashboard. If Phil can send it to me via the email, I'll upload it.
Harry Diamond
Editorial Team
36 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:11:21
Editorial Team
36 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:11:21
Stu @25
I've flagged the fan article link being broken. Thanks for that.
I've flagged the fan article link being broken. Thanks for that.
Phil Roberts
37 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:30:28
37 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:30:28
It was not a praise of Moyes. It was, hopefully, an unemotional analysis of the whole 38 games and that for one or more reasons - and you can debate them yourselves - we were showing improvement compared to 2024-25 until the midpoint and then all the gains were lost in the 2nd half.
As we know - the link to Fan Articles is a 4-0-4 which is how Martinez would have us playing, or was he 1-0-9? If it gets loaded up (just re-sent it to Harry and hopefully linked fixed and you can debate it to your heart's content and decide where Moyes failure really lay. Oh, and love to know you thoughts on our 17 goal a season striker we have. Guy called Barry Beto. Only Haaland and Thiago outscored him.
Mind you, I expect most will read what they want to read.
As we know - the link to Fan Articles is a 4-0-4 which is how Martinez would have us playing, or was he 1-0-9? If it gets loaded up (just re-sent it to Harry and hopefully linked fixed and you can debate it to your heart's content and decide where Moyes failure really lay. Oh, and love to know you thoughts on our 17 goal a season striker we have. Guy called Barry Beto. Only Haaland and Thiago outscored him.
Mind you, I expect most will read what they want to read.
Raymond Fox
38 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:34:32
38 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:34:32
As I have said many times before, no point in changing managers, it's made sod all difference before, has it? It's star players we need.
The Spurs game is an example, the players had no excuses for not producing attempts on their goal; not one of them did anything resembling class.
The Spurs game is an example, the players had no excuses for not producing attempts on their goal; not one of them did anything resembling class.
Adrian Phillips
39 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:47:03
39 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:47:03
Since coming to Bournemouth, Iraola has spent £400M over 2 seasons at Bournemouth, who have now spent over £60 M in 5 years.
In 5 years, Everton has spent £280M, but sold their best players. Under Moyes, they spent £110M, with Dewsbury-Hall being the only Moyes choice alongside Grealish; the rest were Kinnear trying to do a Brighton.
Dibling, who everyone raves about, cost £40M+, despite being a bench player for relegated Southampton with 0 assists and 0 goals over 16 matches with Southampton.
Everton fans rave about new owners and pockets of cash, but the gross spend was frankly pathetic, leaving no squad depth and no investment mid-season apart from another failed winger, which probably cost us Europe.
In 5 years, Everton has spent £280M, but sold their best players. Under Moyes, they spent £110M, with Dewsbury-Hall being the only Moyes choice alongside Grealish; the rest were Kinnear trying to do a Brighton.
Dibling, who everyone raves about, cost £40M+, despite being a bench player for relegated Southampton with 0 assists and 0 goals over 16 matches with Southampton.
Everton fans rave about new owners and pockets of cash, but the gross spend was frankly pathetic, leaving no squad depth and no investment mid-season apart from another failed winger, which probably cost us Europe.
Andrew Ellams
40 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:56:08
40 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:56:08
Adrian, that analogy would work better if we hadn't blown hundreds of millions under Moshiri and achieved nothing.
Bournemouth finished 6th this season, something we haven't done since before Moshiri infected the club.
Bournemouth finished 6th this season, something we haven't done since before Moshiri infected the club.
Steve Brown
41 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:02:03
41 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:02:03
Adrian, it is net spend that is relevant as club's like Bournemouth find young talent, add value and sell for a profit.
Bournemouth 5-year net spend: £-128.76M
25-26: £113.26M
24-25: £-59.67M (9th)
23-24: £-111.27M (12th)
22-23: £-78.57M (15th)
21-22: £10.08M (2nd in Championship)
So in Iraola's 3 seasons in charge, his net spend is £-57.68M. Moyes spent £114M last summer and improved us by +1 point and -1 league position.
Bournemouth 5-year net spend: £-128.76M
25-26: £113.26M
24-25: £-59.67M (9th)
23-24: £-111.27M (12th)
22-23: £-78.57M (15th)
21-22: £10.08M (2nd in Championship)
So in Iraola's 3 seasons in charge, his net spend is £-57.68M. Moyes spent £114M last summer and improved us by +1 point and -1 league position.
Steve Brown
42 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:07:31
42 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:07:31
Phil @ 15,
“With 19 games gone we were +9 compared to the fixtures the previous season. Matched the remaining 19 and we would have finished 6th and be in the Europa League and we would all be talking about Moyes has done a great job and next year we need to push on to Champions League.”
And if my granny had wheels she'd be a bike.
We didn't match it did, did we? Our form fell off a bleedin cliff wth 3 points from 21 points on offer.
“With 19 games gone we were +9 compared to the fixtures the previous season. Matched the remaining 19 and we would have finished 6th and be in the Europa League and we would all be talking about Moyes has done a great job and next year we need to push on to Champions League.”
And if my granny had wheels she'd be a bike.
We didn't match it did, did we? Our form fell off a bleedin cliff wth 3 points from 21 points on offer.
Mick Springstein
43 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:23:06
43 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:23:06
Feels like a huge disconnect at the club. Our owners haven't shown their faces. It's unclear who wields the power when it comes to buying new players.
It's unclear what TFG actually wants from Moyes and he is very closed off when discussing making demands of the owner.
We can't keep recycling players like Mykolenko and expecting another level because he hasn't got one. We need new players in most positions.
It's unclear what TFG actually wants from Moyes and he is very closed off when discussing making demands of the owner.
We can't keep recycling players like Mykolenko and expecting another level because he hasn't got one. We need new players in most positions.
Arnez Desmond
44 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:41:33
44 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:41:33
I think we need to get a bit of perspective here. David Moyes has brought stability.
Bear in mind that he asked for players -- right-back, left-back, midfield, right-wing and centre-forward. He didn't get his right-back, right-wing or possibly his centre-forward choices.
All season, David Moyes had to use players out of position. Tyler Dibling is not a right-winger, that is why he flopped. Merlin Rohl is also not a right-winger.
I do not think that Barry was his choice. Barry does not fit Everton. We need someone who can hold the ball up and is good in the 6-yard box.
I do not think that Delap (neither is Lukaku) is the striker we need as well. Everton this season is more about stability. We certainly need to get quicker players to continue the build with the right players in the right positions to target Europe.
Bear in mind that he asked for players -- right-back, left-back, midfield, right-wing and centre-forward. He didn't get his right-back, right-wing or possibly his centre-forward choices.
All season, David Moyes had to use players out of position. Tyler Dibling is not a right-winger, that is why he flopped. Merlin Rohl is also not a right-winger.
I do not think that Barry was his choice. Barry does not fit Everton. We need someone who can hold the ball up and is good in the 6-yard box.
I do not think that Delap (neither is Lukaku) is the striker we need as well. Everton this season is more about stability. We certainly need to get quicker players to continue the build with the right players in the right positions to target Europe.
Mal van Schaick
45 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:47:07
45 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:47:07
Iraola by a mile for what he did at Bournemouth. Being Kroupi and Evanillson with him.
Thanks Moyes, you did what was asked of you and kept us in the Premier League. If Nuno gets sacked by West Ham early next season, Moyes can go back there.
Thanks Moyes, you did what was asked of you and kept us in the Premier League. If Nuno gets sacked by West Ham early next season, Moyes can go back there.
Andy Meighan
46 Posted 27/05/2026 at 18:00:13
46 Posted 27/05/2026 at 18:00:13
Alan Polak.
I hope them posts were sent with your tongue firmly wedged in your cheek. A woman manager, could you imagine it, she'd be run out of Finch Farm after 5 minutes.
Never going to happen in the Premier league, and I hope to god I'm never around to see it. Dear me, the mind boggles.
I hope them posts were sent with your tongue firmly wedged in your cheek. A woman manager, could you imagine it, she'd be run out of Finch Farm after 5 minutes.
Never going to happen in the Premier league, and I hope to god I'm never around to see it. Dear me, the mind boggles.
David West
47 Posted 27/05/2026 at 18:02:54
47 Posted 27/05/2026 at 18:02:54
Why wait until the wheels come off, until 99.9% of fans are screaming at Bram;ey-Moore Dock for him to go? Why wait for mid-season and another transfer window?
Why not appoint a manager when morale isn't at rock bottom? So he's not starting from rock bottom?
Why not appoint a new manager from a stronger position, not when you're in the Bottom 3, while quality managers are available? He could have a pre-season, assess players, a full transfer window, time to implement his tactics and approach.
You have an advantage if you hire a manager from a position of strength; you can attract a higher calibre of manager... you are more attractive than when you need rescuing. The timing is now!!
I'm happy Moyes has brought stability, that is what he was brought for. Give him his 12 months wages, thank him, and move forward!
Why not appoint a manager when morale isn't at rock bottom? So he's not starting from rock bottom?
Why not appoint a new manager from a stronger position, not when you're in the Bottom 3, while quality managers are available? He could have a pre-season, assess players, a full transfer window, time to implement his tactics and approach.
You have an advantage if you hire a manager from a position of strength; you can attract a higher calibre of manager... you are more attractive than when you need rescuing. The timing is now!!
I'm happy Moyes has brought stability, that is what he was brought for. Give him his 12 months wages, thank him, and move forward!
Joe McMahon
48 Posted 27/05/2026 at 18:29:44
48 Posted 27/05/2026 at 18:29:44
If Moyes is all about stability, what the hell did he do at Sunderland? He's also been sacked 5 times, not much stability there either.
He's not made for football management anymore.
He's not made for football management anymore.
Tony Abrahams
49 Posted 27/05/2026 at 18:50:15
49 Posted 27/05/2026 at 18:50:15
He got the Everton job because he turned West Ham into winners, Joe, and they'd still be a Premier League club if they hadn't sacked him!
One thing is certain: once they get over the disappointment, those Hammers fans will have a lot more fun than us Evertonians next season if David Moyes is still here.
I obviously hope I'm wrong, 🤷
One thing is certain: once they get over the disappointment, those Hammers fans will have a lot more fun than us Evertonians next season if David Moyes is still here.
I obviously hope I'm wrong, 🤷
Phil Roberts
50 Posted 27/05/2026 at 19:18:12
50 Posted 27/05/2026 at 19:18:12
Steve #19 - that is the point! We fell off a cliff.
But for many on here, it was a disaster from just before the opening whistle of the Brighton game at Bramley-Moore Dock.
But for many on here, it was a disaster from just before the opening whistle of the Brighton game at Bramley-Moore Dock.
Joe McMahon
51 Posted 27/05/2026 at 19:32:52
51 Posted 27/05/2026 at 19:32:52
Tony, he did win them a trophy, correct. We did not know what would have happened if he stayed at West Ham this season.
The damage was done by Potter, not Nuno.
The damage was done by Potter, not Nuno.
Stan Grace
52 Posted 27/05/2026 at 19:49:21
52 Posted 27/05/2026 at 19:49:21
Phil #50,
You'd strengthen your position on this if you didn't resort to the claim that "for many on here it was a disaster from just before the opening whistle at the Brighton game at Bramley-Moore Dock."
The majority who want Moyes gone are basing their opinion on the results and performances over the whole season. While results were better earlier on, few performances during the whole season could be said to have been great or entertaining, including the home one against Brighton.
You'd strengthen your position on this if you didn't resort to the claim that "for many on here it was a disaster from just before the opening whistle at the Brighton game at Bramley-Moore Dock."
The majority who want Moyes gone are basing their opinion on the results and performances over the whole season. While results were better earlier on, few performances during the whole season could be said to have been great or entertaining, including the home one against Brighton.
John Collins
53 Posted 27/05/2026 at 19:50:16
53 Posted 27/05/2026 at 19:50:16
Jay 34.
"Personally speaking, I think we need to plan for Moyes succession but I would leave him in place for next season because I feel we don't have enough stability just yet."
How much stability are you looking for, mate?
"Personally speaking, I think we need to plan for Moyes succession but I would leave him in place for next season because I feel we don't have enough stability just yet."
How much stability are you looking for, mate?
Liam Mogan
54 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:07:49
54 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:07:49
It's impossible without spending big money on better players to win anything or improve. No one could do better than Stability Dave.
Meanwhile, Palace won the FA Cup last year and are in a European Final tonight. After selling Olise, Guehi and Eze...
Meanwhile, Palace won the FA Cup last year and are in a European Final tonight. After selling Olise, Guehi and Eze...
Billy Shears
55 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:28:33
55 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:28:33
I believe all of the above would improve us... in terms of fitness, set-pieces (both attacking and defending), passing, crossing, shooting from range, game management and even the dark arts!
I sadly believe that TFG will stick with Moyes and won't sack him till the results get worse and Blues stay away from our new stadium.
Another wasted season looming for us long-suffering Blues!
I sadly believe that TFG will stick with Moyes and won't sack him till the results get worse and Blues stay away from our new stadium.
Another wasted season looming for us long-suffering Blues!
Billy Shears
56 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:40:10
56 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:40:10
Even our "Great" away wins... we just got over the line, even the league win at Wolves?!
We were mostly on the back foot at Man Utd and Bournemouth, even at Villa too, where we were down to the bare bones and the team played well and were never seen again... for Moyes's favourites.
We were mostly on the back foot at Man Utd and Bournemouth, even at Villa too, where we were down to the bare bones and the team played well and were never seen again... for Moyes's favourites.
Liam Mogan
57 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:49:22
57 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:49:22
You're right there Billy.
The "amazing' away form could easily have been awful form if it wasn't for a few world class stops from Pickford.
In the end' it was just average form, nothing special. Certainly not exciting apart from some late winners, which the long-suffering away fans got to enjoy.
It never made up for the dismal home results, even in February, when we finished 8th and Moyes was the man.
The "amazing' away form could easily have been awful form if it wasn't for a few world class stops from Pickford.
In the end' it was just average form, nothing special. Certainly not exciting apart from some late winners, which the long-suffering away fans got to enjoy.
It never made up for the dismal home results, even in February, when we finished 8th and Moyes was the man.
Paul Griffiths
58 Posted 27/05/2026 at 21:23:45
58 Posted 27/05/2026 at 21:23:45
Conte! Conte!
Dear God...
Dear God...
Nicolas Piñon
59 Posted 27/05/2026 at 00:13:14
59 Posted 27/05/2026 at 00:13:14
Sack this dinosaur of a manager.
Stop wasting Everton fans' time, TFG.
Stop wasting Everton fans' time, TFG.
Mark Taylor
60 Posted 27/05/2026 at 00:53:23
60 Posted 27/05/2026 at 00:53:23
Tony 18,
If that's the ambition, then it's Moyes and incomings like Soucek. And we'll end up lower mid-table. Maybe next season also with a semblance of a cup run to keep matters interesting?
But maybe not...
If that's the ambition, then it's Moyes and incomings like Soucek. And we'll end up lower mid-table. Maybe next season also with a semblance of a cup run to keep matters interesting?
But maybe not...
Derek Thomas
61 Posted 28/05/2026 at 01:32:16
61 Posted 28/05/2026 at 01:32:16
Le Bris from Sunderland...
And whoever finds his players for him,
And whoever finds his players for him,
Mike Gaynes
62 Posted 28/05/2026 at 02:36:14
62 Posted 28/05/2026 at 02:36:14
Robert #24, great to see you back, and some excellent points made.
Three I'd like to expand upon:
One is patience. Success on the pitch takes time, and the more success you want, the longer it takes. Friedkin's Roma took six years to move from 6th to 3rd and secure Champions League standing. Arsenal required 6 years to move from 8th to 1st, and Edu the architect didn't even stay for the finish.
Another is the "stability" that Friedkin obviously craves and has become something of a curse word to many fans. It's hard to hear, but you're right, the organizational stabilization required when he bought the club is nowhere near complete. The solid structural foundation of personnel, policies and finances that an owner wants to build on is not yet fully in place.
And third is, as you mentioned, time frame. Friedkin won't give a fig, as you lot say, what the fans want in terms of a manager or the Champions League next season or when we win silverware. He will have his own objectives. And he will have a keen memory of what happened the last time he listened to the fans and hired the universally popular choice, De Rossi, for manager. Chaos followed. It took Friedkin three more hires over two years before everything came out right. And so I strongly doubt he will listen to the supporters again.
I share your optimism for the long term. I really do think that as time goes on we will learn to shop better in the smaller markets, including one you didn't mention -- North America. (Watch the World Cup and you'll see some talent like the teenage Mexican, Gilberto Mora. Whooo, baby.)
And yes, we will be a wealthy club again, because Friedkin and Kinnear and their marketing team have already shown they can pull in new revenue streams from high-profile sponsorships, and our SCR spending ceiling will rise, and we'll be able to afford more and better players. But this will take time, lots of time, and there will probably be more long stretches of dismal football before the process is completed.
And Mick #43, yes, I think our feeling of "disconnect" will continue, because Friedkin doesn't much care what we think, and he won't clue us in on his long-term plan. We're stuck with that.
Three I'd like to expand upon:
One is patience. Success on the pitch takes time, and the more success you want, the longer it takes. Friedkin's Roma took six years to move from 6th to 3rd and secure Champions League standing. Arsenal required 6 years to move from 8th to 1st, and Edu the architect didn't even stay for the finish.
Another is the "stability" that Friedkin obviously craves and has become something of a curse word to many fans. It's hard to hear, but you're right, the organizational stabilization required when he bought the club is nowhere near complete. The solid structural foundation of personnel, policies and finances that an owner wants to build on is not yet fully in place.
And third is, as you mentioned, time frame. Friedkin won't give a fig, as you lot say, what the fans want in terms of a manager or the Champions League next season or when we win silverware. He will have his own objectives. And he will have a keen memory of what happened the last time he listened to the fans and hired the universally popular choice, De Rossi, for manager. Chaos followed. It took Friedkin three more hires over two years before everything came out right. And so I strongly doubt he will listen to the supporters again.
I share your optimism for the long term. I really do think that as time goes on we will learn to shop better in the smaller markets, including one you didn't mention -- North America. (Watch the World Cup and you'll see some talent like the teenage Mexican, Gilberto Mora. Whooo, baby.)
And yes, we will be a wealthy club again, because Friedkin and Kinnear and their marketing team have already shown they can pull in new revenue streams from high-profile sponsorships, and our SCR spending ceiling will rise, and we'll be able to afford more and better players. But this will take time, lots of time, and there will probably be more long stretches of dismal football before the process is completed.
And Mick #43, yes, I think our feeling of "disconnect" will continue, because Friedkin doesn't much care what we think, and he won't clue us in on his long-term plan. We're stuck with that.
Mark Ryan
63 Posted 28/05/2026 at 08:41:20
63 Posted 28/05/2026 at 08:41:20
Moyes Out!
Ian Wilkins
66 Posted 28/05/2026 at 08:41:48
66 Posted 28/05/2026 at 08:41:48
I agree that our club has been stabilised financially and is in a much sounder place than the cliff-edge basket case of recent years.
TFG are due credit for this although, due to Moshiri's naivety and global circumstances, they did pick up Everton FC on the cheap.
Their way, of non-communication with shareholders and customer base, is their style of management. I find it discourteous personally but that's their choice.
Stability was needed but it doesn't have to be our go-to objective for the rest of our days.
Following stability should come transformation and that's where we should be heading now. It may not be instant, but it can be relatively quick (ask Aston Villa, Sunderland, the list goes on).
To transform we will need good management, good recruitment... are our current team good enough to deliver? Personally, I'm not convinced.
TFG are due credit for this although, due to Moshiri's naivety and global circumstances, they did pick up Everton FC on the cheap.
Their way, of non-communication with shareholders and customer base, is their style of management. I find it discourteous personally but that's their choice.
Stability was needed but it doesn't have to be our go-to objective for the rest of our days.
Following stability should come transformation and that's where we should be heading now. It may not be instant, but it can be relatively quick (ask Aston Villa, Sunderland, the list goes on).
To transform we will need good management, good recruitment... are our current team good enough to deliver? Personally, I'm not convinced.
James Marshall
67 Posted 28/05/2026 at 10:15:26
67 Posted 28/05/2026 at 10:15:26
I don't know why people are giving this so much airtime. Davey ain't going nowhere for another year in my view. The club as good as said it a few weeks ago so I don't see the point in getting so stressed out about it all the time. You just do your own head in.
Taking a stoic approach is a lot easier on the soul. Some things in life you have little to no control over, so just let it be.
I think we should change managers as well, but I just don't see it happening.
If I was forced to pick one of the above, I'd suggest Thomas Frank would be the most likely.
Taking a stoic approach is a lot easier on the soul. Some things in life you have little to no control over, so just let it be.
I think we should change managers as well, but I just don't see it happening.
If I was forced to pick one of the above, I'd suggest Thomas Frank would be the most likely.
Jason Hewly
68 Posted 28/05/2026 at 10:38:09
68 Posted 28/05/2026 at 10:38:09
Moyes is more than capable of getting us regular European football. The exposure will be good for us in terms of signing players, and the stadium revenue will help attract those players.
Anything else is a roll of the dice. It might work out with Mikeo Walkero, it probably won't. And if you want proof of that, have a look at the last 10 years we've just endured.
Also, editors, can we have a ban on all the dumbfuck alliteration? I'm sick of reading some of these idiotic posts from people who think alliteration is clever.
Anything else is a roll of the dice. It might work out with Mikeo Walkero, it probably won't. And if you want proof of that, have a look at the last 10 years we've just endured.
Also, editors, can we have a ban on all the dumbfuck alliteration? I'm sick of reading some of these idiotic posts from people who think alliteration is clever.
Stu Darlington
69 Posted 28/05/2026 at 11:14:36
69 Posted 28/05/2026 at 11:14:36
Whether Moyes goes or stays next season is really irrelevant. Even Pep Guardiola would have made little difference to our overall performance with this poor quality squad of players. Attracting better players in the positions that we all know need strengthening has got to be the priority.
Our back four are just not good enough to be selected in the starting line-up every game. With these still in place next season, we will be in for another torrid season.
Easy to say but difficult to achieve when we don't know how much money we have to spend... and being such an attractive proposition for young players.
Our back four are just not good enough to be selected in the starting line-up every game. With these still in place next season, we will be in for another torrid season.
Easy to say but difficult to achieve when we don't know how much money we have to spend... and being such an attractive proposition for young players.
Dan Nulty
70 Posted 28/05/2026 at 12:07:03
70 Posted 28/05/2026 at 12:07:03
I don't get why anyone wastes any time discussing this. He isn't going anywhere as, after the period of instability we have had, the new owners will be wanting, rightfully, to stabilise the club.
Therefore, there will be more of an appeal to sponsors in the short term and a guarantee of some return on their investment. West Ham chased better football and look where that got them.
Therefore, there will be more of an appeal to sponsors in the short term and a guarantee of some return on their investment. West Ham chased better football and look where that got them.
Tony Hughes
71 Posted 28/05/2026 at 12:32:42
71 Posted 28/05/2026 at 12:32:42
Meanwhile, us supporters hand over our hard-earned cash while the Friedkins pocket that and the Sky money with the lure of jam tomorrow?
Yes, they're businessmen with zero affinity for our club but as fans we strive for a successful team that wins trophies, stabilised tripe won't wash.
Us fans and our club will be here long after TFG have gone.
Yes, they're businessmen with zero affinity for our club but as fans we strive for a successful team that wins trophies, stabilised tripe won't wash.
Us fans and our club will be here long after TFG have gone.
Andrew Ellams
72 Posted 28/05/2026 at 12:35:55
72 Posted 28/05/2026 at 12:35:55
Palace have offered Iraola the manager's job and he's currently considering it.
Liam Mogan
73 Posted 28/05/2026 at 13:41:16
73 Posted 28/05/2026 at 13:41:16
Alliteration is awfully annoying, always.
Dismiss dithering dino Dave
Stability sucks!
Dismiss dithering dino Dave
Stability sucks!
Paul Hewitt
74 Posted 28/05/2026 at 14:32:29
74 Posted 28/05/2026 at 14:32:29
If I was Iraola and was offered the Palace and Everton jobs, I know which one I'd prefer.
And it would be the one that's won 3 trophies in 12 months.
And it would be the one that's won 3 trophies in 12 months.
Steve Brown
75 Posted 28/05/2026 at 14:54:34
75 Posted 28/05/2026 at 14:54:34
Liam @ 73, bit harsh.
Don’t discount dismal, dim, downbeat, dumbing-down, defeated, downward-descending dour Davie.
Don’t discount dismal, dim, downbeat, dumbing-down, defeated, downward-descending dour Davie.
Kevin Abbott
76 Posted 28/05/2026 at 19:08:38
76 Posted 28/05/2026 at 19:08:38
Moyes has done a great job steadying the club but, after the pathetic end to the season and his unwillingness to play young players and the rumours of the players he is interested in all north of 30, he is only capable of dogs of war football.
Instead of knee-jerk hiring, I would love the owners to take their time and recruit an up-and-coming manager. All other clubs seem to be able to do this. Moyes starts with don't get beat... and see where we are from there.
Instead of knee-jerk hiring, I would love the owners to take their time and recruit an up-and-coming manager. All other clubs seem to be able to do this. Moyes starts with don't get beat... and see where we are from there.
Jason Hewly
77 Posted 28/05/2026 at 21:24:35
77 Posted 28/05/2026 at 21:24:35
Liam 73 and Steve 75,
Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point.
Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point.
Stan Grace
78 Posted 28/05/2026 at 22:14:48
78 Posted 28/05/2026 at 22:14:48
Mike #62,
I agree with your point that "success on the pitch takes time, and the more success you want, the longer it takes."
The problem is that Roma supporters blamed the front office for failing to give De Rossi adequate time to integrate new players, which suggests that Dan Friedkin wasn't patient at all. I would also argue that he made an error appointing and siding with CEO Lina Souloukou who was unable to understand the difference between a general CEO and a football one.
I agree with your point that "success on the pitch takes time, and the more success you want, the longer it takes."
The problem is that Roma supporters blamed the front office for failing to give De Rossi adequate time to integrate new players, which suggests that Dan Friedkin wasn't patient at all. I would also argue that he made an error appointing and siding with CEO Lina Souloukou who was unable to understand the difference between a general CEO and a football one.
John Collins
79 Posted 28/05/2026 at 22:29:35
79 Posted 28/05/2026 at 22:29:35
"Moyes is more than capable of getting us regular European football."
Is he, why didn't he do it this season, Jason?
Is he, why didn't he do it this season, Jason?
Brendan McLaughlin
80 Posted 28/05/2026 at 22:56:20
80 Posted 28/05/2026 at 22:56:20
John #79
We weren't good enough?
Since Moyes left...
We weren't good enough?
Since Moyes left...
Derek Thomas
81 Posted 28/05/2026 at 23:34:58
81 Posted 28/05/2026 at 23:34:58
You can (almost) always tell when a manager's time is up... a few things happen:
1) Obviously you get a series of poor results and performances.
At the start of the season, people when asked how we'll fare say "Ask me when the clocks go back, or Halloween, oe after Bommy Night, 10 or 12 games and let's see..."
Results: L, W, W, L, W, D, L, L, D, D, L, L.
Played 12, 12 Points. pretty ordinary, though this season West Ham went down on that form.
Performances: It has to said, they got worse as they went on.
2) The dreaded Chairman's 'Vote of Confidence' -- 'Happily Dissatisfied'? Well, I'm not sure what that exactly means, it's all a bit 'Meh'.
3) A list of possible replacements, we've got that on an almost daily basis.
What we haven't had yet is... who will succeed 'xxxxxxx'? and you get 2 answers.
4a&b) Almost anybody & The Tea Lady.
My Conclusion; Short Term.
Sadly, Moyes isn't going anywhere yet... and I'm not about to wish for a poor start (although he does have previous for them, I can remember a couple of times we've been on 3 points in October) just to get rid of him.
Hail Mary options:
A) Moyes has taken the 6 weeks paid gig because he knows he's on the way out.
B) Kinnear has Road to Damascus revelation and petitions TFG to act.
Nah, I don't think it's very likely either.
My Conclusion: Medium Term.
If you keep Moyes he will, eventually,,build you a Moyes Team. This season, he failed to get at least 6th with basically a Dyche team and got 13th.
Eventually ( and who knows how long this eventually will be?) with his own team, he'll fail to get 3rd and finish with his 7th-ish Trophy.
As Lyndon Lloyd said: Yesterday's Man for Stability Today.
1) Obviously you get a series of poor results and performances.
At the start of the season, people when asked how we'll fare say "Ask me when the clocks go back, or Halloween, oe after Bommy Night, 10 or 12 games and let's see..."
Results: L, W, W, L, W, D, L, L, D, D, L, L.
Played 12, 12 Points. pretty ordinary, though this season West Ham went down on that form.
Performances: It has to said, they got worse as they went on.
2) The dreaded Chairman's 'Vote of Confidence' -- 'Happily Dissatisfied'? Well, I'm not sure what that exactly means, it's all a bit 'Meh'.
3) A list of possible replacements, we've got that on an almost daily basis.
What we haven't had yet is... who will succeed 'xxxxxxx'? and you get 2 answers.
4a&b) Almost anybody & The Tea Lady.
My Conclusion; Short Term.
Sadly, Moyes isn't going anywhere yet... and I'm not about to wish for a poor start (although he does have previous for them, I can remember a couple of times we've been on 3 points in October) just to get rid of him.
Hail Mary options:
A) Moyes has taken the 6 weeks paid gig because he knows he's on the way out.
B) Kinnear has Road to Damascus revelation and petitions TFG to act.
Nah, I don't think it's very likely either.
My Conclusion: Medium Term.
If you keep Moyes he will, eventually,,build you a Moyes Team. This season, he failed to get at least 6th with basically a Dyche team and got 13th.
Eventually ( and who knows how long this eventually will be?) with his own team, he'll fail to get 3rd and finish with his 7th-ish Trophy.
As Lyndon Lloyd said: Yesterday's Man for Stability Today.
Steve Brown
82 Posted 29/05/2026 at 04:32:01
82 Posted 29/05/2026 at 04:32:01
Alonso to Chelsea.
Maresca to Man City
Iraola to Leverkuesen.
Pocchettino to AC Milan
Rose to Bournemouth
Terzic to Bilbao
You snooze you lose.
Maresca to Man City
Iraola to Leverkuesen.
Pocchettino to AC Milan
Rose to Bournemouth
Terzic to Bilbao
You snooze you lose.
Steve Brown
83 Posted 29/05/2026 at 04:34:50
83 Posted 29/05/2026 at 04:34:50
Conte would be entertaining for 12 months until he resigned.
He could have an argument in an empty room!
He could have an argument in an empty room!
Terry Downes
84 Posted 29/05/2026 at 05:04:06
84 Posted 29/05/2026 at 05:04:06
As I said before, it would be nice if Celtic came in for him?
I can't see him turning them down!
I can't see him turning them down!
Laurie Hartley
85 Posted 29/05/2026 at 05:36:29
85 Posted 29/05/2026 at 05:36:29
Steve # 82, “You snooze, you loose” -- never truer words spoken.
Moyes Out; Glasner In.
The alternative is given by Derek @81. Oh mammy, daddy -- no no no no no!
Moyes Out; Glasner In.
The alternative is given by Derek @81. Oh mammy, daddy -- no no no no no!
Mike Gaynes
86 Posted 29/05/2026 at 17:05:47
86 Posted 29/05/2026 at 17:05:47
Stan #78, I lack the expertise to judge Souloukou as a CEO, but Friedkin clearly rated her, and there was no way in high holy hell that this owner was going to allow a new employee (eight months on the job) to demand the firing of his top executive. That is insubordination and it was going to have only one outcome.
By the way, I firmly believe that Friedkin had Souloukou lined up to be our CEO when he took over the club, but got outbid by her old boss Marinakis, who offered her full charge of his entire Forest/Olympiakos/Rio Ave operation. I have nothing to support this hunch, but it's a strong one.
By the way, I firmly believe that Friedkin had Souloukou lined up to be our CEO when he took over the club, but got outbid by her old boss Marinakis, who offered her full charge of his entire Forest/Olympiakos/Rio Ave operation. I have nothing to support this hunch, but it's a strong one.
Jason Hewly
87 Posted 30/05/2026 at 09:01:05
87 Posted 30/05/2026 at 09:01:05
John, 79, don't be fatuous.
Man is capable of going to the moon.
"Oh yeah? So why didn't we all go last night?"
Man is capable of going to the moon.
"Oh yeah? So why didn't we all go last night?"
Marc Hints
88 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:16:39
88 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:16:39
So Slot going and Iraola to become the new Liverpool manager, whilst our club sits quiet and says or does nothing and we stick with Moyes.
This is why they are successful and were not.
Pete Hughes
89 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:32:47
89 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:32:47
See Liverpool have sacked Slot?
Awaits Iraola appointment!!
Awaits Iraola appointment!!
Soren Moyer
90 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:37:33
90 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:37:33
The Red Shite just sacked Slot.
I bet they'll go for either Iraola or Glasner!
I bet they'll go for either Iraola or Glasner!
Andy Meighan
91 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:39:05
91 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:39:05
Slot sacked... Iraola leading contender to take over -- don't hang around, do they?
Meanwhile, back at Planet Toffee...
Meanwhile, back at Planet Toffee...
Ian Bennett
92 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:44:14
92 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:44:14
If I was Iraola, i'd be waiting for the best options to present themselves.
Everton will be way down that list, when Liverpool come in for him.
That's just the pecking order of football.
Everton will be way down that list, when Liverpool come in for him.
That's just the pecking order of football.
Kevin Molloy
93 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:44:22
93 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:44:22
This will have been done weeks ago.
Ian Pilkington
94 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:46:50
94 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:46:50
And we are still stuck with Moyes.
Moyes Out!!!
Moyes Out!!!
Ajay Gopal
95 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:49:52
95 Posted 30/05/2026 at 12:49:52
Liverpool sack their manager after he won them only 1 title in 2 years. Such a relief that we have our CEO "Whilst the media and other fanbases clamour for frequent managerial change, we value the stability that David brings and the ability this gives the whole Club to plan for the long term." You hear that, you kopite losers? We plan for the long term! Whoppee!
Steve Brown
96 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:00:47
96 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:00:47
Moyes out!
Glasner in.
Glasner in.
Tony Hughes
97 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:02:52
97 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:02:52
Slot gone. Over to you TFG, or are you going to sit with your thumbs up your collective stabilised arses.
Darren Hind
98 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:14:17
98 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:14:17
Amazing
Slot get's the last card in the pack after winning the title and qualifying for the Champions League.
Moyes gets a stay of execution after quite literally stinking the gaff out.
A stark reminder of the way the two clubs in this city see themselves.
Slot get's the last card in the pack after winning the title and qualifying for the Champions League.
Moyes gets a stay of execution after quite literally stinking the gaff out.
A stark reminder of the way the two clubs in this city see themselves.
Brian Denton
99 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:19:30
99 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:19:30
Michael, I know it won't happen but I'd love it if the 'Comments' section could be put at the top of the home page, rather having to scroll past all the fucking betting adverts to get to it.
After all, the comments are the main reason the fans come to the site.
After all, the comments are the main reason the fans come to the site.
Dave Abrahams
100 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:20:01
100 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:20:01
Darren (98)
Don't be surprised if our owners go for Arne!
Don't be surprised if our owners go for Arne!
Darren Hind
101 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:20:14
101 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:20:14
Dont say that, Dave.
I thought I`d seen it all when Rafa was appointed, but the way this club has been run over the past decade. I fear nothing can ever be taken off the table
I thought I`d seen it all when Rafa was appointed, but the way this club has been run over the past decade. I fear nothing can ever be taken off the table
Ian Horan
102 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:29:11
102 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:29:11
Iriola probably incoming for the RS whilst we get neck strain either facing where our defence defend or looking up to the sky watching Pickford or Tarkowsiki smashing it long and high!! But thats ok as we strive for Stability !!! It just shows the ambition of both clubs
Chris Leyland
103 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:33:37
103 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:33:37
Slot might have won them the league last year and qualified for the Champions League this season.
But he doesn't bring the stability of back-to-back 13th-place finishes with under 50 points, a woeful home record, a single-digit leading scorer each season and guaranteed early cup exits in both domestic cup competitions.
#CarefulWhatYouWishFor
But he doesn't bring the stability of back-to-back 13th-place finishes with under 50 points, a woeful home record, a single-digit leading scorer each season and guaranteed early cup exits in both domestic cup competitions.
#CarefulWhatYouWishFor
Mark Taylor
104 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:35:19
104 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:35:19
I think Slot is a little unlucky. A PL in the first season, then injuries, a death and a serious loss of form from several key players made this year harder, but he still got CL.
Anyway, as far as I can see, it's all hypothetical, our owners have made the bed that we will have to lie in...
Anyway, as far as I can see, it's all hypothetical, our owners have made the bed that we will have to lie in...
Kevin Molloy
105 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:44:41
105 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:44:41
That's my lot if they try to slot Slot in here.
Sean Herbert
106 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:51:33
106 Posted 30/05/2026 at 13:51:33
The red shite have sacked slot after a poor season by their standards, only finishing 5th.
Yet we are supposed to be happy with the so called stability Moyes brought us.
If Iraola isn't that good a manager, as Moyes fans keep telling us, how come the shite want him?
Some clubs forward think, Everton except Moyes and his mediocrity. Says it all really...
Yet we are supposed to be happy with the so called stability Moyes brought us.
If Iraola isn't that good a manager, as Moyes fans keep telling us, how come the shite want him?
Some clubs forward think, Everton except Moyes and his mediocrity. Says it all really...
Keith Harrison
107 Posted 30/05/2026 at 14:02:12
107 Posted 30/05/2026 at 14:02:12
Slot gone, Shite approach Iraola.
Horse has bolted. Oh dear
Horse has bolted. Oh dear
Mike Doyle
108 Posted 30/05/2026 at 14:26:03
108 Posted 30/05/2026 at 14:26:03
No sentimentality at LFC. Since the days of Shanks their management (Hicks & Gillette aside) have looked to improve/ refuse to accept mediocrity. Perhaps we could learn a lesson or two from them?
Brian Denton
109 Posted 30/05/2026 at 14:30:50
109 Posted 30/05/2026 at 14:30:50
I'm already dreading next season. Can you imagine the shite we'll be watching if the only aim is to finish 6-10 points above relegation?
As our history disappears ever faster in the rear view mirror, I don't know where we go next.
As our history disappears ever faster in the rear view mirror, I don't know where we go next.
Pete Hughes
110 Posted 30/05/2026 at 14:45:14
110 Posted 30/05/2026 at 14:45:14
Liverpool, a club with a high bar while ours is on the deck.
Tom Bowers
111 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:03:18
111 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:03:18
Slot inherited a ready made squad from Klopp to win the league and then found his true level although still qualifying for Champions league. What have you got to do ??
Should have gotten at least one more season or at least a half.
Anyway we have our own problem in Moyes who stumbled badly in the end and is still here.
No announcements yet !!!!
Should have gotten at least one more season or at least a half.
Anyway we have our own problem in Moyes who stumbled badly in the end and is still here.
No announcements yet !!!!
Merle Urquart
112 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:07:04
112 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:07:04
I see Liverpool have sacked Slot and are going for Iriola but don't worry we've got charisma by-pass Davey
Dave Abrahams
113 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:08:58
113 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:08:58
Jesus the way Liverpool are praising Slot today you’d think they were hiring him not firing him!
Alan J Thompson
114 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:28:55
114 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:28:55
Dave(#112); Probably means they are unhappily satisfied.
Peter Mitchell
115 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:30:31
115 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:30:31
Not sure that it makes any difference if the shite go for Iraola - he was never coming to us, even if Moyes leaves (which is highly unlikely before the end of his contract). If by some miracle, TFG actually pay us enough attention to get rid of Moyes, then I would like Glasner (but probably we wouldn't get him either).
As we don't ever really win anything except under ex-players, what about Lee Carsley, when the time comes?
As we don't ever really win anything except under ex-players, what about Lee Carsley, when the time comes?
Paul Griffiths
116 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:46:24
116 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:46:24
Horse has bolted! There was no way on God's earth that Iraola was coming anywhere near us at all. He's ambitious. Forever smiling at the 'give Iraola what he wants' brigade. But wouldn't it be lovely if he goes over there and does a Frank.
Meanwhile, the news from Everton is .........
Meanwhile, the news from Everton is .........
Jack Convery
117 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:54:29
117 Posted 30/05/2026 at 15:54:29
Has he gone yet?
John Collins
118 Posted 30/05/2026 at 16:12:03
118 Posted 30/05/2026 at 16:12:03
Just got a call,hope its wrong.
Them counts across the park are in talks with Enrique.
Them counts across the park are in talks with Enrique.
John Collins
119 Posted 30/05/2026 at 16:14:55
119 Posted 30/05/2026 at 16:14:55
Jason 87
What you smoking there brother?
What you smoking there brother?
Ian Horan
120 Posted 30/05/2026 at 16:17:00
120 Posted 30/05/2026 at 16:17:00
@ JC 117;
I am in talks with Kylie Minogue, Nicole Scherswinger and Dua Lipa for an orgy!!!
I have the same chances as the RS with PSG's manager.
I am in talks with Kylie Minogue, Nicole Scherswinger and Dua Lipa for an orgy!!!
I have the same chances as the RS with PSG's manager.
John Collins
121 Posted 30/05/2026 at 16:17:54
121 Posted 30/05/2026 at 16:17:54
Ian,
That's a lot on your plate buddy,pass two of them over to me
That's a lot on your plate buddy,pass two of them over to me
Ian Wilkins
122 Posted 31/05/2026 at 12:24:00
122 Posted 31/05/2026 at 12:24:00
Liverpool sack Slot because Owners and fans want success.
The current manager merry go round is because Owners, and Managers have ambition, want to progress, want to win things.
TFG, not so much, stability provided by Moyes, stay in the Premier League, milk the stadium, at the cheapest possible outlay.
I’m afraid it’s not the most inspiring model.
The current manager merry go round is because Owners, and Managers have ambition, want to progress, want to win things.
TFG, not so much, stability provided by Moyes, stay in the Premier League, milk the stadium, at the cheapest possible outlay.
I’m afraid it’s not the most inspiring model.
John Collins
123 Posted 31/05/2026 at 16:37:07
123 Posted 31/05/2026 at 16:37:07
Looks like the flash-in-the-pan, inexperienced, flavour-of-the-month manager is signing for Liverpool.
Definitely not good enough for us though.
Definitely not good enough for us though.
Phil Roberts
124 Posted 31/05/2026 at 22:11:52
124 Posted 31/05/2026 at 22:11:52
Interesting thread in one of the national papers about Iraola. A number of comments that he may be another Potter at Chelsea, Frank at Spurs, Moyes at Man Utd and could be sacked in the new year - and he hasn't even got the job yet! It could be too big a job and they needed a more experienced manager.
One other point is Bournemouth had 50% possession and so how will he cope with a team who had 60% and therefore be faced with more men behind the ball than he has been used to in the current job.
It would be such a shame for him if he was a failure -- but only for him.
One other point is Bournemouth had 50% possession and so how will he cope with a team who had 60% and therefore be faced with more men behind the ball than he has been used to in the current job.
It would be such a shame for him if he was a failure -- but only for him.
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1 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:17:01
Please stop this "13th is progress, we were not relegation haunted". This mentality is holding us back. What happens next will tell us a lot more about TFG and their ambitions and objectives for EFC.
I fear they will opt to stick with Moyes who suits their plans.