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In an interesting move announced by the club in a letter to all shareholders, Everton are planning to pay a £20 Dividend per share, on the back of their acquisition of Everton Women. The total payout will be around £44M, with vast majority of it (99.7%) going to The Friedkin Group via Roundhouse Capital. 

The payout comes off Everton's bottom line, and therefore substantially reduces the monies available in January for the opening of the transfer window, at least adding context to the management of expectations by David Moyes as 1 January approaches. 

This news followed a series of complex financial restructurings by the club's owners, The Friedkin Group (TFG), operating through their investment vehicle, Roundhouse Capital Holdings, who own both Everton FC and Everton Women.

The move is rooted in the sale and separation of Everton Football Club Women (EFCW) from the main football club to create a self-standing independent entity.  


1. The Sale of Everton Women (EFCW)

The dividend is funded by the proceeds from the internal sale of Everton Football Club Women Ltd:

  • Ownership of the women’s team was transferred from Everton Football Club to Roundhouse Capital Holdings, which is the same parent entity that owns the men's team.

  • The deal, which includes the transfer of Goodison Park (now the permanent home for the women's team), was reported to be worth between £44M and £65M.

  • By selling the women's team to a parent company, Everton can record the sale as "pure profit" on the accounts of the main company, EFC Co Ltd. This helps the club comply with the Premier League’s Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) as well as the upcoming Squad Cost Ratio (SCR) rules.

2. The Dividend Proposal

On 24 December 2024, it was revealed that the Everton Board of Directors proposed using these sale proceeds to pay a dividend to all existing shareholders:

  • Amount: Approximately £20 per share.

  • Total Payout: Given there are roughly 2.2 million shares in issue, the total distribution is approximately £44M.

  • Who gets it? While the payment is "to all shareholders," the vast majority (99.7%) will go back to Roundhouse Capital Holdings (ie, The Friedkin Group) because they own almost all the shares. The remaining amount will be paid to the small minority of individual shareholders.

3. Financial  and Capital Reduction

A key part of the TFG takeover last year involved putting in place key strategies to tackle the huge accumulated losses, which were partly funded by Moshiri's shareholder loans to the tune of £451M, as well as highly dubious "payday" loans at high interest from the likes of 777 Partners. 

Moshiri's loans were converted to equity (ie, Everton Shares) by TFG as the first step of the takeover, while the other problematic loans were resolved. 

To legally allow the payment of a dividend despite years of losses, the club had to sort out the dreadful state of its balance sheet:

  • The club used credit from its Share Premium Account to offset its Accumulated P&L Deficit (just over £650M as of June 2025).

  • The deficit had been allowed to build up by the end of June 2025, over the blighted years of mismanagement by Farhad Moshiri and his cohorts.
  • This required a 75% shareholder vote and a solvency statement from the directors. This process effectively resets the Profit & Loss account on the balance sheet to zero, a necessary step that legally enables the company to distribute cash as dividends.

It may also reflect the huge investment that had to be made to fund the construction of the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock while the ongoing operations of the club were maintained.

However, the more direct impact was to available transfer funds, which had withered away under Moshiri, largely as a result of sanctions placed on Russian oligarchs that were brought in by the UK government in response to the brutal invasion of Ukraine, 4 years ago

The Inevitable Controversy

The timing of the announcement could not be more precipitous with the Everton men's team in desperate need of reinforcements during the upcoming January transfer window.

However, David Moyes has already spoken out to pour cold water on the prospect that significant new player acquisitions will be made in January. Perhaps the removal of £44M in cash from the potential transfer fund is a more cogent reason for his management of fans' expectations?

More concerning might be the underlying objectives of Everton's American ownership by TFG, where capital is king, with the perennial need to show that their investments are producing a decent return. What better Christmas present for the Dan Friedkin Family than getting back some of the huge sums they have invested?

£43M extracted from plucky little Everton Football Club will do for starters! 

 

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Brian Harrison
1 Posted 27/12/2025 at 11:12:29
I read with interest a piece on Twitter this morning by Paul Quinn.

Paul has been a big supporter of The Friedkin Group's takeover of the club, but the piece he wrote today is a bit worrying to say the least. He says " financial news released around this holiday period can often be viewed as companies wishing to bury news."

He says this is something our previous owners did, and he thought it surprising that our new owners, acting in the name of Roundhouse Capital Holdings, would inform shareholders of the dividend they would pay on some or all of the proceeds from the sale of the women's team.

They propose to pay around £20 per share, he estimates the pay out would reduce Everton's balances by around £43.98M.

He then rightly questions is this the right time to make such a payment given the recruitment requirements that will be needed in this January window.

Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
2 Posted 27/12/2025 at 11:29:39
Thanks for putting that up, Brian.

I've had a go at trying to explain what has been going on, and what it might mean -- not for poverty-stricken Everton Shareholders -- but for the transfer kitty, which appears to have been plundered by The Friedkin Group.

Follow the money…

Jimmy Carr
3 Posted 27/12/2025 at 13:20:42
Brian (1),

I read about this on Everton NewsNow I think, which I would admit is a terrible site full of non-existent transfer speculation and other assorted bullhit. (Toffee Web's going that way.)

Anyway they spun the story as a positive, claiming our transfer kitty could be boosted. I think I'm more likely to believe Paul Quinn's interpretation. Bit worrying.

Michael Kenrick
4 Posted 27/12/2025 at 14:56:31
Just some details from the club's Shareholder Dividend letter that was published on Christmas Eve.

If you are a minority shareholder, you should have an account at Signal Shares.

Michael Kenrick
5 Posted 27/12/2025 at 14:56:31
I hope Mike Gaynes gets a look at this story overnight and provides some better context than I have been able to find.

But, any way you cut it, this seems like a massive kick in the balls to all Everton fans who want to see real progress being made with team building in very single transfer window.

We all know what players we need till we're blue in the face reading it on here. But this surely sends a very clear message: that extracting a profit from the club takes a high priority over team building.

Or am I wrong?

Tony Abrahams
6 Posted 27/12/2025 at 21:48:17
Whilst not being totally clued up on the financial side of things, my reading of this is that TFG, are going to be paying themselves a lot of money, with this dividend.

To an uneducated person like myself, it looks like Usmanov, tried to put money into the club, by paying overinflated sponsorship prices, but TFG, are taking money out of the club, by selling the women’s team, to another one of their investment companies?

Hopefully I haven’t quite read this right, because it doesn’t look very good if what I’m writing has got any truth in it.

Nicholas Ryan
7 Posted 27/12/2025 at 21:57:25
Why are we surprised, when ruthless capitalists behave ruthlessly?!
James Newcombe
8 Posted 28/12/2025 at 08:08:28
They did step in, put the money up, and -- quite realistically -- saved us from oblivion. TFG are not wealthy Evertonian benefactors, happy to pour cash into a hole. Even Kenwright wouldn't do that!

Presumably there's a medium-term plan here, and as long as we are safe in the Premier League there's no need to panic. I'd still be surprised to see nobody coming in.

Steve Brown
9 Posted 28/12/2025 at 08:32:48
Basically, the payment of the dividend by Everton will load the debt incurred by Roundhouse Capital in purchasing the women's team and Goodison back onto the club.

A move straight out of the Glazer playbook frankly. Hence the context of the CEO's statement: “We will work towards identifying and executing opportunities that will make us stronger in the long term. But these opportunities will need to be exceptional, and we will avoid short-term fixes that will weaken our hand for phase two of our rebuild next summer."

Pretty cynical stuff but hardly surprising with American owners. Even if they flipped the club today now they would make an enormous profit given Moshiri agreed to convert his £450M of shareholder loans into equity.

Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 28/12/2025 at 08:43:42
Michael #5, sorry for not responding yesterday -- I briefly visited the game threads and then moved on for the day. If anything in my reply is wrong, I'll happily hold up my hand, but this is my best available answer to your query.

I know nothing about TFG's operations, because it's a privately held company, and so I have no clue why they declared the dividend, but based on information from a CFO consultant I once worked with, it's likely the dividend will have zero impact on our ability to buy players in January.

The EPL is transitioning from the old PSR system to Squad Cost Ratio (SCR), which focuses on player spending as a percentage of team revenue. And through a loophole in the rules first spotted by Chelsea, a club selling its women's team to a fully owned subsidiary was allowed under PSR to book the sale as revenue -- pure profit -- which Everton did. (I think the loophole was closed recently by SCR.) Generally, I believe a club can spend 85% of revenue plus the profit on player sales.

The point is that revenue, not cash on hand or P&L or the bottom line, is what determines SCR limits on player spending. Just football-related revenue. By selling the women's team, TFG jacked its 2025 revenues and thus would have raised Everton's SCR ceiling.

It's vital to note that dividends are paid not from revenues, or from cash on hand, and certainly not from the "transfer kitty", but based on a percentage of net income. I'm surprised the Esk didn't discuss that, but his expertise vastly exceeds mine and I would await further information from him.

Now I will briefly indulge in pure speculation (given my dearth of knowledge about TFG), but on the question of whether a £44M dividend payout will impact cash resources, I would just point out that TFG has annual revenues somewhere around $15 billion and Dan Friedkin's personal fortune is almost $8 billion. I know nothing about TFG's business operations or priorities, but I'd be willing to guess that cash is not a problem for these guys.

I believe the Esk is mistaken with his negative interpretation of the timing of the announcement. Remember, we're dealing with Yanks. US companies almost always declare dividends at the end of the quarter, or fiscal year if it's an annual or onetime dividend. Lots of dividends get announced around this time of year.

And finally, Michael, I will take issue with your description of the timing as "precipitous" because we're in "desperate" need of January reinforcements. I know many fans feel that way, but the public statements by Kinnear and Moyes made clear that they and the owners feel no such urgency. They've both said not to expect big business in January, and they didn't mention lack of funds as the reason.

Again, I have no clue why the Friedkins are distributing dividends. I just hope my £20 actually arrives, given that I'm still waiting for the stock certificate for my one share more than a year after I bought it.

Mike Gaynes
11 Posted 28/12/2025 at 08:47:25
Steve #9, that's quite an assertion. Please share the specifics that have gone into that conclusion, because as one who has written a fair few press releases announcing corporate dividends, that's not my understanding of where dividend money comes from.
Tony Abrahams
12 Posted 28/12/2025 at 09:03:56
If the manager and the owners feel that we have no need to strengthen the squad Mike, then the only logical reply I can give, is god help us.
Steve Brown
13 Posted 28/12/2025 at 09:20:47
Mike, if it is wrong then I am sure that TFG can provide clarification on the financial news they sneaked out on Xmas Eve.

The shareholder dividend will be financed by the club, and will be reflected in our results. The main beneficiary is Roundhouse Capital who funded the sale of the women’s team and Goodison. The sale price and the dividend return are broadly comparable.

Maybe I am just being cynical but it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

Mike Gaynes
14 Posted 28/12/2025 at 09:26:03
Tony, you read the same interviews I did. Certainly seemed to me they recognize the needs but were trying to reduce our expectations for January. You know better than I how sparse and expensive the pickings can be in the winter window, and I think the quote Steve cited about "phase two" coming next summer sorta says it all.
Tony Abrahams
15 Posted 28/12/2025 at 09:28:29
Fucking hell Steve, imagine if our owners actually came out and spoke to us, never mind act like they are aware of what they have bought and what Everton Football Club, could become once again, if we had owners who had a real desire to make us great again?
Mike Gaynes
16 Posted 28/12/2025 at 09:40:06
Steve, that's certainly one way to look at it. Time will tell, even if the Friedkins don't. I do think it's a bit of leap to compare this to the Glazers, who leveraged debt (half a billion, I believe) to scoop up their dividends and triggered massive interest payments that came out of the club coffers. I'm not aware of the Friedkins having pulled any such stunt at Roma, where they've poured in capital -- unlike the Glazers. But we'll see I guess.
Steve Brown
17 Posted 28/12/2025 at 09:45:54
Tony, I would be excited if they actually turned up to watch a game.
Tony Abrahams
18 Posted 28/12/2025 at 09:47:41
I’m an arrogant so and so Mike, and rarely listen to anything spoken by the players, the manager, or from anything else coming out of the club, unless it really takes my interest and resonates with me mate.

It’s mostly just lip service anyway, and why I go by that old adage about actions speaking a lot louder than words.

At least TFG, haven’t given us empty promises, but they haven’t filled me with much confidence either. I have a feeling that they are here for the long haul, (because I believe the scope around the stadium is absolutely incredible for people with serious money, and the obvious connections having money and owning Everton, will bring) but I’m not sure if Everton, is the biggest part of the agenda, for these very successful businessmen. I obviously hope I’m wrong.

Paul Griffiths
19 Posted 28/12/2025 at 10:50:43
Mr. Gaynes, so out of step with most of of us on TFG who keeps waving his cheerleader bangles and does not really understand what our club means to us.

This is Mr. G. who said he could 'guarantee' that big Dan was falling for us but now tells us that 'Now I will briefly indulge in pure speculation (given )'.

Well, I'm bemused. Where does your 'guarantee' come from Mr. G.?

People, bookmark 'my dearth of knowledge about TFG'.

Exactly.

And I can't wait for Mr. G to be proved right about Barry and our smashing recruitment team this next window where any fool knows that we need incoming.

Paul Griffiths
20 Posted 28/12/2025 at 10:52:11
Shite, sorry, I'm 'obsessed' in calling out bullshit.
Brian Harrison
21 Posted 28/12/2025 at 10:54:17
Michael 2

I think you encapsulate everything far better than me, but what I will say is Paul Quinn as you know is very clued up and financial matters and if he says it will cost EFC £43.9M then I believe him. I am sure TFG havent put all this money into the club without having plans to recoup their outlay, now whether they do what the Glasiers have done I don't know.. I was really disappointed to hear Kinnear our CEO suggest that little would be spent in Jan, yes its not a great time to buy players but sometimes needs must.

I would just reiterate Paul Quinn has been a big supporter of TFG but when he raises concern we should all sit up and take notice,.

David West
22 Posted 28/12/2025 at 11:07:35
Isn't this 44m a drop in the ocean when you consider the huge amount of money TFG have invested to buy the club and clean up our finances?

I'm no expert but I don't think Dan was scratching round Christmas eve looking down the back of the couch for cash to buy the missus a nice present.

Seems this was always the plan when the women's team was sold, I don't think they are sitting round celebrating about 44m when they are sitting on billions.

Michael Kenrick
23 Posted 28/12/2025 at 11:55:51
Addressing points raised in reverse order...

David @22, I'm not sure it makes that much sense to context £44M in cash removed from Everton Football Club's bottom line, with the billions The Friedkin Group are 'sitting on'.

Of course they don't 'need' the money, but they clearly had an objective here -- to put the company back in profit (where we have not been for many many years), to facilitate payment of a substantial dividend (relative to EFC's finances, not TFG's). As far as I can tell, it's a completely above-board way to extract profit from the club they bought -- a classic 'Return on Investment'.

As Brian @21 says: I am sure TFG haven't put all this money into the club without having plans to recoup their outlay. I would change that to "without having plans to show it making a profit. 'Recouping their outlay' would likely only happen when they sell us on to someone else.)

I can't compare TFG to the Glazers because I don't know enough about what they've done at Man Utd but the fundamental Yankee principle at play here surely is to get an income stream back from your investment. If it's making a loss all the time, that can't be done.

But if, by moving money around internally as they have done to balance the books, and that enables them to pay themselves a massive dividend (£44M is one heck of a lot of money), I'm having a very hard time believing that has no impact on the club's ability to fund new transfers.

Mike @ I'm sorry but the Squad-Cost Ratio argument is a complete red herring: PSR remains in full effect for the current season. This is the final season where clubs will be judged on the rolling three-season loss limit of £105M.

SCR comes into effect next season. From the start of this season, the Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) will be scrapped and replaced by the Squad-Cost Ratio (SCR) and the Sustainability and Systemic Resilience (SSR) rules.

And let's ratackle this assumption that TFG have billions they could pump into Everton if they wanted to... isn't that where the Saudi PIF came a little unstuck after their purchase of Newcastle Utd, but were unable because of the rules to just [pump money in. I suspect the same rules apply here... which is where I think TFG have been a lot smarter with these equity swaps and the like.

So I think very definitely the money for the dividend could certainly have been counted as cash available to fund transfers. But TFG and their minions have clearly made a choice... and the choice appears to be to make a profit rather than fund squad rebuilding.

David West
24 Posted 28/12/2025 at 12:21:56
MK.

Oh I get that £44M taken out of EFC is massive for us, but not to them.

So seems a bit odd doesn't it, to weaken our transfer position after the good work done to strengthen it since the takeover?

So I'm now a bit concerned that they may be happy how we are now and that's the limit -- sitting mid-table, Premier League status, sell-out stadium, and the money it generates enough to keep pulling profit from EFC.

No real ambition to go to next level, which we know requires a lot more investment at bigger levels for better players.

Brian Harrison
25 Posted 28/12/2025 at 12:50:51
Michael @23,

Just read another post on Twitter by Paul Quinn under the heading of

The Analysis Series: Value extraction in the Global sports economy

Its quite a long article and he goes through the different types of sport ownership. These include the leveraged Buyout, Sale and Lease Back transactions.

He goes into depth about the Glazer buyout at Man Utd, also the Derby County ownership model under Mel Morris and the sale of Pride Park, also relates what happened at Derby to what happened at Sheffield Wednesday.

I am a philistine when it comes to such matters but Paul explains in such a way that even I can understand, well, I say 'understand'... I mean get the jist of it anyway.

Mike Gaynes
26 Posted 28/12/2025 at 15:46:18
Michael #23, of course SCR comes into effect next season, but isn't it correct that the calculations will be based on this year's revenues? Won't the revenues booked in 2025 for the sale of Goodison and the women's team be used to set the 2026 ceiling? Wasn't that the reason, or at least a reason, for those transactions? To expand our regulatory limits on buying players because, as you so correctly point out, Friedkin can't just pour money into the club? I'm not "making an argument" here -- I think we're discussing facts about SCR, not opinions.

My only other question would be why you believe the funding of the dividend is being pulled specifically from the TFG-provided transfer kitty, given that this is a Roundhouse Capital transaction. We'll never know, obviously, unless Kinnear comes out on January 31 and announces we couldn't afford X striker because of funding the dividend. But I really believe that regulations are the concern, not cash.

Brian #21, I'm not casting doubt on Quinn's concerns about the transaction. His corporate financial knowledge exponentially exceeds mine. I'm only questioning his implication that the dividend declaration was "buried" or, in Steve's words, "sneaked out" under cover of the holiday. Sending a letter to every shareholder would seem to me a very strange way of hiding something. More like blowing trumpets.

As for post #19, all I can do is laugh at the ongoing fixation and the utter irrelevancies of my compulsive admirer. For the record, I have never expressed a single opinion about the efficacy of our recruiting team, nor about the quality of TFG's ownership of the club (except to criticize the hiring of Moyes -- oops, my bad!). But am I a cheerleader for them? Damn straight I am. Rooting for them like crazy. As every good Evertonian should.

Mike Gaynes
27 Posted 28/12/2025 at 15:57:14
Brian #25, thanks for posting about the Quinn article. Just read it, and it's fascinating.

The section on the Glazers is particularly relevant given the concerns expressed by some here about the Friedkins. I've previously read about the staggering debt and asset skimming inflicted on Man Utd by the Glazers, but the article really hammers it home.

Steve Brown
28 Posted 28/12/2025 at 17:20:55
Mike,

TFG have a fiduciary duty to communicate the dividend pay-out to shareholders. The timing is their choice, and I am very suspicious that it went out on Xmas Eve. The communication to shareholders came two days after our CEO’s interview stating “ we will avoid short-term fixes that will weaken our hand for phase two of our rebuild next summer” i.e. no money for transfers.

As Michael states, the payment of the dividend generates immediate ROI for Roundhouse Capital (TFG). It will be reflected in the club’s financial results as a cost. Unless the club can generate profit elsewhere comparable to the dividend amount, it will remove £44 million from the business; some of that could have been invested in transfers this January.

Of course, if TFG do commit substantial funds for transfers in January, then I will stand corrected.

Also, the SCR will not include 2025/2026 season revenues - it is being trialed on a non-binding "shadow" basis this season to allow clubs and the league to evaluate how it works in parallel with the current rules. Clubs must comply with the current PSR only this season.

Tony Abrahams
29 Posted 28/12/2025 at 17:35:59
Looking in from the outside then this statement simply reads that first things first, we are businessmen.

Kenwright had a lot of people rejoicing when he first purchased Everton, with what I thought was a very similar buyout to The Glazier’s, so although I’m not particularly enchanted with TFG, at least they aren’t telling us any lies.

They will have to be careful imo though, because the logistics for the new stadium aren’t very good, so once the novelty wears off, if it looks like the owners aren’t that serious about trying to turn Everton into a successful football club, once again, then it’s quite possible that apathy could set in.

Kevin Molloy
30 Posted 28/12/2025 at 17:46:26
I wouldn't get too bogged down in the minutiae with this one. They're billionaires, and they'll either invest in this or they won't.

They could be taking money out this month, putting it back in the next. I don't think it much matters how the balance sheet reads from season to season, as they can elect to change it at any point.

Michael Kenrick
31 Posted 28/12/2025 at 18:30:51
Kevin, I think they might have to follow UK Company Law and the Rules of the Premier League.

If you remember, this is what stopped the Saudi Public Investment Fund (PIF) from doing exactly what you describe at Newcastle Utd.

Kevin Molloy
32 Posted 28/12/2025 at 18:49:44
Michael yes fair point. I don't expect them to just go out spending, but I think they are v familiar with how to inject money in, the sale of the ground being a case in point. I'm sure there are other one off 'tricks' that can be used, if they want to. In any event, I don't read too much into them taking 40m out after the outlay this year. There's been an awful lot going in so far.
Mike Gaynes
33 Posted 28/12/2025 at 19:31:30
Steve #28, re your final paragraph, fair enough and thanks for the correction. That differs a bit from what I have read, but I'll concede the point to your greater expertise.

Re your second paragraph, I will again point out that the SCR restrictions will be based on revenues and revenues alone. Not ROI or club costs or profits.

Yes, the dividend removes £44 million from the business, but regarding your suspicion that it could limit our transfer business, I would point out that we have no idea of the size of the kitty, the availability of additional Friedkin cash or the PSR limits on our spending. So that point seems speculative to me -- possible, but unsupported.

As to your conclusion that TFG can only correct you by providing extensive funds for January transfers (which Kinnear and Moyes already called unlikely), I disagree. I would say that large-scale summer spending would disprove that concern as well, and that's the "phase 2" that Kinnear said they are targeting. That'll be the test of ownership's financial commitment to Everton excellence. Not January.

Paul Hewitt
34 Posted 28/12/2025 at 19:37:56
All smells dodgy to me
Brendan McLaughlin
35 Posted 28/12/2025 at 20:43:52
Dividends paid to shareholders don't hit the Profit & Loss Account.

They are a Balance Sheet item.

They won't impact PSR.

Michael Kenrick
36 Posted 28/12/2025 at 20:46:09
Mike, here's my understanding of some of the key differences between PSR and SCR:

Unlike PSR, which often resulted in punishments for previous seasons' behaviour, SCR will be assessed for the current season on 1 March each year to allow for sanctions to be applied within the same season.

Unlike PSR, which looked at what a club had already spent in previous seasons, the SCR assessment on 1 March is based on agreed projections for the current season.

1) At the start of the season, the League and the club agree on a Projected Revenue Base.

2) On 1 March (after the January transfer window closes), the club must submit its total squad costs for the current season — which are much easier to track in real-time (wages, amortized transfer fees, and agent fees).

Because the "squad cost" is mostly fixed by contracts and the "revenue" is largely predictable (TV money, sponsorships), the Premier League can calculate the Squad-Cost Ratio for the current season immediately, and impose fines or points deductions straight away.

So, to your earlier point, it seems the 2025 transactions you referenced will have no bearing on the application of SCR next season.

Michael Kenrick
37 Posted 28/12/2025 at 21:16:47
Brendan,

I understand that the P&L Account tracks everything through the year, and that, if there is a profit, then that can fund the dividend payout after the end of the year.

But the money has to come from somewhere, so is it not money that could be used for something else... like retained earnings... used for future investment... say in new players, for example?

Paul Quinn claims to be an expert on this stuff. Why would he ask these two 'fundamental' questions:

(i) Given Everton's recruitment requirements in this January window, is this a wise use of cash? and

(ii) What does it say about Roundhouse Capital's future investment policies regarding Everton?

He seems to think paying the dividend has some sort of impact on the amount of money available for players.

Brendan McLaughlin
38 Posted 28/12/2025 at 21:57:41
Michael #37

I like Paul's stuff but, unless I read it on here, I don't see it. So I'm not necessarily sure that what I'm posting contradicts Paul.

I'm not an expert but essentially Everton calculate their profit and loss on normal trading activities and, if they make a profit, that's transferred to the balance sheet.

As you've stated, any dividend to shareholders is then deducted from the profit transferred to the Balance Sheet but in terms of PSR I believe it to be irrelevant as PSR doesn't concern itself with what happens post Profit & Loss.

Of course it we pay out a significant dividend it has an impact on certain areas... on cashflow not least... but not on our transfer budget.

Mike Gaynes
39 Posted 28/12/2025 at 21:57:52
Michael #36, very helpful and good research. Thanks for those corrections, and happy to hold up my hand.

Now a follow-up question: I read that the loophole through which Chelsea and Everton generated PSR-enhancing revenue by selling their women's teams to themselves had been closed last month under the new SCR agreement. Do you know if that's correct?

David West
40 Posted 28/12/2025 at 22:06:45
Having read the esks article, it only makes me even more suspicious of TFG.

Why wouldn't you want you invest that £44M or at least some in this transfer window, giving you a better chance of finishing in a higher league position, even a European spot, and therefore increasing revenue from prize money and participation in the European competition next season?

As I said, it's not like they need this £44M urgently now, is it? Seems we won't be looking to compete at the top end of the league if this affects our ability to spend. Do they want us to get into Europe?

We know that would be a headache with them owning Roma too, so are they just happy floating along safe every year in the Premier League?

Paul Hewitt
41 Posted 28/12/2025 at 22:18:11
Take money from Everton.

Spend it on Roma.

Brendan McLaughlin
42 Posted 28/12/2025 at 22:53:49
Paul #41,

This is a thread for grown-ups. Did you fake your ID again?

Paul Hewitt
43 Posted 28/12/2025 at 22:55:57
Very good.
Brendan McLaughlin
44 Posted 28/12/2025 at 23:15:06
Paul #43,

If only everyone from the "virtual pub" that is ToffeeWeb could take the craic as well as you mate.

David Currie
45 Posted 28/12/2025 at 23:37:21
I think the owner's ambitions should be on making Everton great again; if they don't have that ambition, then I hope they don't stay long term and sell the club.

The last thing we want is owners who think Top 10 and playing in the Europa League is success. Everton FC demands trophies... starting with the FA Cup in 2026!!!

Michael Kenrick
46 Posted 29/12/2025 at 07:34:08
Mike @39, this what my friend Al said when I asked him your question:

Yes, you are correct. The Premier League officially voted to close that loophole on 21 November 2025.

Under the old PSR system, clubs could sell "fixed assets" (like hotels, training grounds, or even women's teams) to a sister company owned by the same people and book the proceeds as "revenue." Chelsea famously did this with two hotels and their women's team, and Everton followed suit with a sale of their women's team to their parent company, The Friedkin Group, earlier in 2025.

What has changed?

With the move to the Squad Cost Ratio (SCR), the rules regarding these transactions have been significantly tightened:

Removal from Revenue Calculations: Starting in the 2026-27 season, any income generated from selling capital assets (like a women's team or stadium) to a "related party" will be excluded from the revenue figure used to calculate a club's spending limit.

Focus on "Football Revenue": The SCR is strictly based on 85% of relevant football revenue (TV money, tickets, kit deals). Since selling a building or a separate sporting entity to yourself isn't considered core "football revenue," it won't help a club's ability to buy players or pay higher wages.

The "One-Time" Nature: This move effectively prevents clubs from using "paper profits" to inflate their spending power. While clubs can still legally sell these assets to restructure their business, there is no longer a sporting advantage for doing so.

It is important to note that these changes are not retroactive. Chelsea and Everton's previous sales were approved under the rules active at that time (PSR). Because PSR remains in effect for the current 2025-26 season, those clubs have already banked those "profits" to stay compliant for this final PSR cycle. The loophole is essentially being "shuttered" just as the door closes on the PSR era.

Why did it take so long?

The Premier League originally tried to close this in June 2025, but they couldn't get the required 14-club majority to pass the vote. It wasn't until the full SCR/SSR package was finalized in November that the league secured the 14-6 majority needed to ban the practice.

Brian Harrison
47 Posted 29/12/2025 at 10:30:00
I do wonder why anyone would spend over £700M on a new business and never bother to visit that business. He found time to come over and play in the Dunhill golf in Scotland for 3 days, so would a flight when it finished to see the new ground have disrupted his schedule that much?

Paul Quinn also mentions that we no longer own Goodison, so seeing the women's game is starting to generate more funds, Everton under TFG will not benefit.

My other concern is what is to stop TFG separating the Hill Dickinson Stadium to Roundhouse Capital and benefit from all the profit it will generate from non-Everton games, like the Euros in 2028 and the concerts and other sporting events that may be staged at the stadium.

Also, if we manage to qualify for a European competition and Roma also qualify for the same event, then, as Palace found out that their owner John Textor also owned another club that had also qualified for the Europa League, so Palace had to drop into the Europa Conference League.

David West
48 Posted 29/12/2025 at 12:19:05
I'm sure they have brought in rules, or trying to now that if an owner wants to separate the ground from the club, it needs government approval. It will be a lot harder to do in future... hopefully.

I think they see the docks area as an opportunity to develop, maybe not to the benefit of the club but to TFG.

The SCR seems to make the gap between the clubs who already have massive revenue and those who don't harder to bridge, which we know the top clubs want.

If it's only TV money, kit deals, sponsorship and tickets how are clubs supposed to compete?

Man Utd get £90M a year just from Adidas for kits. By comparison, Everton get £18-20M. Then the unbalanced way TV shows games, giving more to the "Big 6"

It may stop clubs over overspending but it's stifling to competition!


Michael Kenrick
49 Posted 29/12/2025 at 21:33:52
Brian,

If I had billions of dollars and had bought plucky little Everton to give me a stake in the Premier League bonanza, would I give a fuck that some balding old fans wanted me to show my face?

I have a lot more respect for the bloke sticking to his personal priorities and schedules and not wasting his time with a trip to The Dick when he can watch it all on telly every week, and he has delegated all responsibilities to Chairman Marc Watts and CEO Angus Kineear.

It seems perfectly sensible to me for the Men's Everton (EFC) and the Women's Everton (EWFC) to be separate, self-sustaining entities with their own means of revenue generation. They want equality, after all what more could you ask? But maybe the Goodison pitch is 9% smaller than the Hill Dickinson?

David @48 might be right; I think your fear that the Stadium is somehow hived off to Roundhouse Capital and all the revenues go directly to them is a complete fantasy. I'm sure the stadium is and will remain a wholly owned subsidiary of EFC -- as has always been the case.

David West
50 Posted 29/12/2025 at 22:49:40
MK. I was saying it will be difficult to separate EFC and the stadium, in response to Brian @47.

However easy for them to develop the dock area and have the revenue benefit TFG rather than the club, if they wanted.

Eric Myles
51 Posted 30/12/2025 at 01:19:25
I agree with Steve #28.

In hindsight, it appears that the CEO's dumbing down of expectations in the transfer window were because he knew that TFG were about to take £44M out of the club and that would affect transfer business.

I don't agree that TFGs transfer spending commitment will only be shown in the summer 'cos that's when we receive a tranche of the broadcast revenue; even Chairman Bill was able to fund player purchases in the summer.

David #40, exactly what I said in another thread.

On SCR revenue. If it excludes non-football revenues, does that mean concerts, rugby matches, weddings and conventions etc are excluded from the revenue calculations and thus benefit Roundhouse only? Or does the fact that they are hosted at a football ground make them eligible for inclusion to the benefit of the club?

Mike Gaynes
52 Posted 30/12/2025 at 03:25:10
Eric, per ESPN's reporting, it's everything. Game, hospitality and TV revenues, sponsorships and gear sales, net profits from player transfers, and yes, concerts and other stadium events.

I assume, but do not know for sure, that the latter applies even to clubs who don't own their stadium (City, Hammers, Chelsea, Skunks).

Eric Myles
53 Posted 30/12/2025 at 03:45:07
Well that's good news, Mike. We just have to make sure we optimise the off-field marketing and income to help the team.

With other clubs, it would depend on their lease agreement I'd guess. Wasn't Kenwright's objection to his mate Paul Gregg funding Kings Dock 'cos his mate would get the non-football revenues, not the Club?


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