Everton vs Manchester United Player Ratings: Little output in front of goal extends winless streak at home

The corners began to frustrate me, but this is what you get with a David Moyes team. Loads of effort but not much variation, although I definitely thought we deserved at least a point for those efforts last night.

They competed quite well but the lack of decision-making and the poor end product on the final ball is a book we've read time and time again.

Last night the expectancy was on Ndiaye, Dewsbury-Hall as being chief creators but it just didn't look like happening for either player.

Ndiaye can't seem to play two halves of football anymore... I don't know why.

Iroegbunam and Gana is not a midfield that will ever create or produce goals and that's pretty much what we got. I don't see either as long-term Everton midfielders, to be honest with you.

People will say the striker was isolated but again, Barry just doesn't do enough for me, doesn't anticipate enough and give defenders enough of a hard time... but that's not something we are only just learning.

However,12 identical corners reminded me of the saying that madness is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result.

Once Beto came on, he and Barry should have decided which one would attack the near post. One frustrating ball in was cut out with both attacking the back post.

On the marks, I think you are a bit tight on Keane, who aside from the goal was solid and also, as usual, looked like our best centre-forward and Dewsbury-Hall, who had a far better game than your 6 suggests.

It was frustrating, but at least we always felt in the game, unlike many performances against strong opposition. And finally, the charge down from Barry in the opening seconds could have gone anywhere and changed the whole scenario.

How did Tarkowski deserve a 7, nowhere to be seen when his man Sesko scored. Gana 4, Tim 4.

I think you are one of the very few who would.

For me, we went for the win in the second half and paid the price by leaving ourselves vulnerable to the counter. Barry is a china doll who needs to toughen up but, to be fair, how many crosses went into him when we began to dominate the second half?

Brainthwaite, Dewsbury-Hall, Gana, Armstrong and Ndiaye provide very poor crosses into the area. I thought Gana covered a lot of ground and he did what we expect him to do. Iroegbbunam did okay, sloppy in passing, but bust a gut when he did lose a ball to recover it.

Finally, our corner tactics were disgraceful. Don't know if we have a set-piece coach but our efforts at trying to neutralise the skill of Lammens claiming corners seems to be born out of our own keeper's inability to do the same. No thinking outside the box.

Idrissa is past his sell-buy. He's been brilliant for us but past it. Aznou and Rohl have brilliant games then are not see again. Moyes is failing with the best squad we've had for a while.

Tarkowski and Keane have been good but their lack of pace was totally exposed. Where is Alcaraz? Moyes is gonna cost us good players and you can't blame them for leaving.

What game did Aznou have a brilliant game?

Surely you are not talking about his cameo against Sunderland?

Yes, mate, I'm talking about the 20 minutes vs Sunderland.
He showed enough then for me. The kid's got talent... we're gonna lose him. (Bayern weren't happy losing him.)

#MoyesOut

The sooner the two centre-backs are replaced by O'Brien and Branthwaite, the better.

Even if we would've scored, you're leaving yourself wide open for VAR to find something to disallow it with all the pushing and pulling going on.

It's individual choice on what you think the scores are. No one is right or wrong.

Mind you, the buffoon in the Echo gave him 6!

If Moyes had prime Diego Maradona, he'd keep him on the bench, giving him 10 minutes to win us the game...

Sick to my back teeth of this fraud. He's stuck in a different era.

But his stubbornness is costing us at home. Please try something different, we won't get into Europe with our home form, so try and change it.

Those players who you don't think are good enough -- Dibling, Anzou, Rohl, Patterson -- cannot do any worse than your favourites.

Please make home games enjoyable.

I would be very surprised if we got back into the top half this season.

Drop Tarkowski, Keane and Gana asap. They're so last season!

I didn't realise I was your mate, however, from what I saw of Aznou, and he was just in front of me at the game, was a player full of enthusiasm, trying to prove something. But he was all huff and puff, lost the ball a few times, fell over in the box and we got a very soft penalty.

That being said, if I may presume that he would come in in place of Mykolenko, then the questions are, can he defend, can he cross a ball? For me none of those questions were answered in his cameo.

Yes, I would like to see what he is made of and, if I were Moyes, the only option is to see if he can play both in attack and defence as a wing back with 3 centre-backs.

For balance, Patterson had a very good game that day and I would prefer that he be picked instead of O'Brien. I agree with you that Rohl did enough in the Villa game to get a start.

Yes, I am also frustrated with Moyes's lack of imagination and trying things out but, for me, last night we had a poor Man Utd there for the taking if we:

1. Could provide accurate crosses.
2. Could be more creative in set pieces.
3. (Dare I say it) Committed to all-out attack which left us vulnerable at the back.

I could see Moyes clearly on the sideline encouraging us to play forward and that was before they scored and we were dominant.

I like Tarkowski but I would be inclined to give him a 0 simply because of the way he leads and enjoys the action at corners — fuckin' sickening to watch... and as someone else said, the manager and coaches deserve the same ‘0' for allowing and condoning this anti-footballing mess.

As Tony (@1) said, we deserved a point simply because Man Utd were as poor as us, with both teams contributing little to enjoy in this game.

The difference in the match, they could bring a £70M striker off the bench and he won the game.

Sadly, Everton can only dream of the above.

But his stubbornness is costing us at home. Please try something different, we won't get into Europe with our home form so try and change it.

Those players who you don't think are good enough --Dibling, Anzou, Rohl, Patterson -- cannot do any worse than your favourites.

Please make home games enjoyable.

Maybe if he had subbed them three, it might've been different... we will never know.

"Couldn't argue with the team selection or tactics."

We all must presume that Moyes is your uncle or your neighbour. I suspect that 98% of us here would happily "debate" your conclusions. With very nearly the whole squad available, only 4 had to play out of position and 2 of those are our best centre-back (who would have kept pace with Mbuemo) and our best midfielder, who would likely have created some chances for our strikers to miss.

Team selection and tactics were shameful, negative and appalling. Please tell me if I am wrong.

You say Keane was never going to come out on top in a footrace with Mbeumo, but that is exactly what he did. He got goal side of his man and held him up. What else could he have done?

Tarkowski is becoming a caricature of his former self. He had a 2-yard start on the Man Utd scorer and was quite literally left for dead. His behaviour throughout that sequence of corners was excruciating... And you give him a seven???

Getting ridiculous.

The failure to address this will cost us at least five places by season's end... although TFG may well have budgeted for 14th place, anyway!

Once that goes, and it inevitably will, there are too many tough games upon the horizon to keep churning wins in all of them, the tide will become harder to swim against.

Fans aren't happy and rightly so with the whole transition of going to a new stadium, which is difficult to get to and from, and it's even more problematic on bloody midweek nights and all they are seeing really now is home failures.

At one time, night games under the lights at Goodison were special occasions, they weren't over frequented like this nonsense we are having this season, and opposition teams dreaded coming to Goodison under the floodlights.

Fans aren't happy, I don't think anyone can say it's been a good transition from Goodison Park to the new stadium. We all expected teething problems, that's a natural occurrence going to any new home, but they are being served less than appealing football, not enough goals; wins and overall entertainment value is low.

It's putting pressure on getting results in every away game. Up to Newcastle on Saturday and frankly, if we play like we did in the first half at Fulham and Brighton, we'll get smashed.

Burnley next Tuesday will be another banana skin on every step, small club coming here with nothing to lose, on a slightly upward curve, it's a fixture that's got Wolves written all over it again.

Tarkowski was too far up the pitch, Sesko went past him like he was standing still. Keane did at least enough to prevent Mbeumo from going in direct at goal.

Enough has been said about players being asked to play out of position but can I mention Coleman being on the bench? I'm a big fan of Seamus, a great servant to the club, but I'm afraid as far as being a Premier League player, he's finished. So why is he taking a place up on the bench when we could have had Alcaraz or Aznou there?

As for the corners, as one poster has already said, if we had scored, I feel it would have inevitably been ruled out by the Ref or VAR.

The question for me is whether the modern player is a robot? Programmed to follow out tactics no matter how the game is going? Was there not anyone who was able to think to try something different when the same nonsensical tactic failed time and time again?

I would love to know what goes on at Finch Farm and, in particular, what the coaches do.

As far as the wrestling from corners goes, it takes two to tango and the deliberate holding a player around the waist with 2 hands that is the tactic of a certain Man Utd player -- but never seems to get punished -- causes what is being called a wrestling match.

Last night's performance was strictly on Moyes's team selection and their performance, and he should be reprimanded by the club and not offering excuses for the team he trained and selected. He is the one responsible for picking players who offer nothing every game, and sends out a team that seem void of direction, tactics and understanding of each other.

It seems that our new owners are not aware of what is going on at the club and rely on people they placed in the boardroom. I think they should understand, it is easier to lose money sliding down the Premier League rather than climbing it.

Everton had got into a decent position in the Premier League but experimental team selection is going to cause more problems than answers and a sign of poor team selection and tactics; it is the responsibility of the manager who definitely failed last night.

The only satisfaction this season from last is we are not fighting against relegation... but that is no excuse for last night's experimental nonexistent performance -- that is on the manager's inept team selection and not worth his inexcusable comments.

We have the pride of Merseyside in a brand new stadium and that is being shamed with performances on the pitch that are fully on the manager's team selection. Their performances have been... let's just say, not very good.

Other clubs have not allowed poor performances to go unnoticed and have made changes; is Everton close to becoming the same?

Moyes came back to the club nearly 14 months ago. The way he talks in pressers, you would think he took over last week.

He described the pre-match welcome led by Everton supporter group 1878s as "spine tingling and concluded that Everton are still searching for home comforts."

"This was the 4th defeat in 6 home games, and for all their industry and endeavour, they are desperately lacking a cutting edge; when they find it, this place will become a fortress."

0.4 mate

Bizarre blaming Keane for their goal, he'd done his job, got goal side. Tarkowski floundering behind Sesko was the issue.

I watched the game in a bar with a split audience. Man Utd fans referring to us as Stoke City following the corner kick fiasco.

It did look shocking to be fair. Brainless. Man Utd were very average, as were we. It was a poor game for TV.

I'm sick of his faux hard man routine, he's more interested in getting snide digs in at corners etc than looking for space,

I can’t stand him, he's a yard dog, honestly can't wait to see him gone

I said exactly the same on Michael's after-match report.

Tarkowski is no longer fit for purpose and, because he is so slow, it's having a negative impact on how we play.

As well as Tarkowski being the main problem for Man Utd's goal, I don't think Branthwaite's positioning is great either. He is neither looking to go forward nor covering a possible break and was in no-man's land when the ball was played to Mbeumo.

The only one who came out of that scenario with any credit was Michael Keane, he got goal side of Mbeumo, preventing him having a shot but couldn't stop him squaring the ball for Sesko to score.

Sadly, all Tarkowski wants to do is get into a physical battle and those days are long gone. When in possession, it usually ends in either a 40-yard diagonal ball but mainly it's the 30-yard hoof forward that usually runs through to their keeper.

He reminds me of Ashley Williams when his pace went and his form collapsed. All fake belligerence to mask his poor performances.

We have also lost creativity and control of games since Jack Grealish got injured. In addition to his goals and assists, he really helped us retain possession and his impact is missed.

I'm so sick of excuses being made for Tarkowski, but we have to be very careful here.

We have to remember what a tremendous servant he has been for this club. In our darkest hour, he more than anybody personified the defiance which, against all odds, kept us afloat. I want to focus on the ridiculous decision to keep playing him more than direct my anger at him personally.

Moyes has previous for damaging a player's legacy by playing him for too long. He's not alone. We as a club have been guilty of it for years.... Remember Reidy?

Tarkowski's antics the other night made no sense to me at all. The one thing he still has is a prodigious leap. He is very powerful in the air. So why did he keep going onto the opposition line to get himself locked down in an all-in wrestling contest? Was he acting under instructions?

He'll still have his moments, but as a dependable centre-back, he is finished... has been for some time. He needs to be taken out of the firing line or the affection in which he is held by huge sections of the fan base will continue to erode.

The Man Utd goal was not on Tarkowski for no longer having the pace; it was entirely on Moyes for putting him in there knowing that to be the case.