Sean Dyche talks about Premier League survival and Everton exit

Dyche wasn't sacked — he packed in, the new owners wanted him to stay but he felt he had gone as far as he could with the players he had.

The noise of the Evertonians, the power of the sheer volume, it was almost shaking him, and he can still feel it in his body to this day.

I talk a lot of shite, who doesn't? But the one thing I don't think I can say often enough is how powerful Evertonians genuinely become when they truly unite.

I have had a few of those spine-tingling moments watching Everton, moments that can still get me shivering to this day. It's all about coming together and creating loads of noise, although I would say my favourite moment is still when I think about the rendition of We Shall Not Be Moved when I was walking out of the stadium in Rotterdam all those years ago.

We never ended up winning the fucking lot, but what a moment!

The one I look back on is Wembley in 1984. I was chatting to an elderly man next to me about how long we had been away from the big time,a very proud Evertonian with some great stories.

As Abide With Me played, he stood to attention with tears rolling down his face. I was more happy for him than myself that we won the FA Cup that day.

Dyche also did and interview with Henry Winter and he said that, before the final game, there were some players who said they didn't want to play in it. He obviously didn't name those players but it just highlights that a lot happens at clubs that the fans have no idea what is happening.

I also respect Dyche for admitting he had taken us as far as he could and he also recommended we get David Moyes in. Funny Moyes was Walter Smith's choice to take over from him, there must be a reason 2 very experienced managers chose Moyes.

Dyche also said he has already had offers of managerial jobs since leaving Forest, so I am sure he won't be out of work long.

The strain managing the club during that period must have been immense. Also, he has the decency to admit that the players had lost faith and it needed a change of manager at that time.

If Forest do go down this season, it will be the owner's fault, not the managers' he's sacked.

On that day, Bournemouth played with an intensity that I did not expect -- they had nothing to play for and I expected them to fold once we got that goal. But, no, they went looking for the equaliser as though they wanted us relegated.

My heart was in my mouth when, in the dying seconds, the Bournemouth player (Vita?) curled in a shot from the edge of the box that seemed to be destined for the top corner, but Pickford clawed it away. If that had gone in, oof.

The terrible football, the blanks we fired, all down to him and his coaching staff. Having said all that, he did well when we were shafted with the points deductions.

Still, I couldn't wait to see the back of him.

40 points Dyche got in the points deduction season. Dyche would have achieved a 50-point season without the deductions, I believe.

Will David achieve same this season?

So despite all the crowing about breathtaking improvements. St David needs another seven points just to achieve parity?

Staggering when you look at the numerous advantages he has enjoyed in comparison.

You’ll work it out.

He's free just now, shall we have a poll?

They should get out of it, but there home record is terrible for a team that has good players.

Since march 2025 played 20, won 3, draws 5, lost 12.

Next 4 matches: Atletico away, Liverpool away, Atletico home, Forest home.

Personally, I think the man has integrity and I'd be more than happy to buy him a pint and chat about all things football,

I think the nasty digs at him are a bit out of order — he looked drained by the time he left the club (and I know some fans would say they were drained by the awful football we often played under his tenure!).

He gave us a base to move on from, something that Moyes has also mentioned.

I remember thinking at the time 'How does he do it? Turn up for these games with this suffocating pressure, week after week'.. He certainly earned his money whilst he was here.

That's why players like Tarkowski and Coleman are so valuable, they lead the rest when the chips are down.

I don't think you would notice much difference if Sean replaced David.

Moyes wouldn't, couldn't have hacked it working for them. He demonstrated his ability to act under real pressure when he took Sunderland down.

This club owes Dyche big time.

If we had been relegated, then this club would have gone bankrupt – the club's auditors said there were doubts we could continue as a going concern.

Given what he faced, he deserves thanks and praise from all Everton fans.

We will finish in or around 12th position this season, yet the bouquets of flowers are being prepared for Moyes?

My offer to buy you a season ticket still stands if we finish 6th.

What stand do you sit in now?

What he is, is experienced, and his experience told him what he was trying to do wasn't working, with the players, they'd given up on his approach.

It's an okay approach to dig you out a hole in a short time frame, but it drained the players, sucked the life and joy from them, and the fans.
He deserves credit for the shit he had to fight against, many wouldn't have coped or would have given up.

He was the right man at the time, for that time, like Moyes is the right man now in my mind for this time to get us stable, strong on a good footing ready for the main man (whoever that maybe) in 18 months or 2 years to take us to the top!!!

He achieved 40 points and had 8 deducted. We will certainly beat that total this season and breach the 50 point margin for only the 4th time since Moyes was last here.

So thanks Sean but we have improved since you left.

I get to about 3-4 games a season.

Where he does very much have my respect is being the person effectively holding the club together following the effective resignation of the owner and the understandable low profile of the notional CEO, Chong. I would love to read the book about that time, he will surely write one.

Are you being serious? That's absurd. They are supposed to be fucking professionals with an employer.

Tarkowski had a Weston and nearly sent us down – see highlights for reminders – and Seamus didn't play.

I hope the games you get to are good performances, you lads who travel a distance deserve that.

I decided with my son to make one final trip to Goodison, before I thought it would be knocked down. I understood Dyche’s time might be up, and was pleased that Moyes was being seen as a successor.

What peeved me off was the timing of the departure. Why it had to be announced as we were leaving to watch that final game I will never understand. I did not know whether to celebrate the win or not at the time.

We changed managers more often than we won matches back then. Don't understand your reluctance to celebrate.

I don't understand why people suddenly expected him to be Pep Guardiola. Not saying I'm a fan of his but we knew what we were getting so you can't complain if he does what you expect him to do.

Our association with Dyche went as it was supposed to; he restored and was subsequently moved on.

I'm going to copy those posts and paste them when Moyes moves on.

Dyche indicates that he wasn't too keen on the way the new American owners came in at Burnley and were looking to make numerous changes to the way the club operated, no doubt positive changes, but not necessarily wanted or needed at what is essentially a traditionally run club.

So he ends up at Everton, where new American owners come in: I wonder if history was about to repeat itself so Dyche thought I'm off etc.

I think Sean Dyche is a decent guy, very knowledgeable about the game and will find another club to manage some time...

I agree with Steve @21, Dyche is due some credit for effectively leading the club, not just the team, at a time when our owner had already mentally exited, our Board had disappeared and nobody spoke for Everton FC, or had a clue what was going on.

Add to this points deductions and we were spiralling downwards.

He stayed calm, kept things steady and earned us enough points. His brand of football was probably to nobody’s taste, but it was necessary for that moment in time, then we all move on.

That should get you around mid table in most seasons.

That'll do wont it?

He doesn’t deserve much credit for the football, we were playing by the end of his tenure, even if he got draws at both Arsenal and Manchester City, in the Christmas period, not long before he left, but he does deserve massive credit for keeping us in the premier league, imo, when the club was absolutely, and I mean abso-fucking-lutely, on its knees.

The Brentford game did it for me, playing against ten men for the whole second half, it became apparent that no work was being done on trying to attack, and Everton, had become a 99.9% defensive minded team.

Those draws before Christmas, showed that we weren’t a complete basket case though, just a team who was completely set-up to defend, and I think this is something that David Moyes acknowledged himself, because when you take over a club near the bottom, they are usually leaking goals.

We haven’t had a relegation threatened team for three seasons now, of course the previous two seasons weren’t great for different reasons, but until we unite and start demanding more than stability, then people will always be looking back and arguing about who was the better manager, whilst the year since we last lifted silverware, will just continue to grow bigger and bigger.

We haven’t got a Devine right to win anything, I know, but surely we should start demanding more?

I did fear a Valencia style situation of an incomplete stadium and being stuck in a mountain of debt.

I have slagged off Dyche with mates so often. But with benefit of hindsight... now adore him. (I lie. Right place, right time.. Just. Our luck.)

Last club I myself bought we had similar dilemmas.

Self interest, good intention or something in between?

Usually something in between in my experience but in the end, the bottom line was me and who I owed money to.

I now own Moon Athletic (our fans are called Stellas… my idea that!) and backed by NASA and Trump. Negotiating with a major agent and sponsorship deals.

Games played when a full moon (never a Saturday) and the fan(s) will deliver a noise the clever smart arses on planet Xob only dream about. But... they have made progress on developing vocal cords that work for more than 2 mins.

New rules but not too different. The Shite can get another lunar year if not winning and in my discussions, God's agent saying he is a red.

See any prob?

Word is Beto interested.

This time it will work comrades.

Will set up some kind of Stella site and we can exchange financial details.

But now? Prepping Sunday dinner.

So, so boring to this dreamer

(PS Sorry not to pick a fight/debate on a Sunday!)

We needed a goal. The crowd was restless and exhausted. The camera panned to the sideline and focused on this man. In a moment of self awareness, he caught view of the camera on him.

He gave an admitted surrender to the moment, showing the camera and all watching, what the Everton experience is at the most human level.

He then produced a defiant expression, raising both fists and yelling "Come On!". Doucoure scored a few minutes later.

I have always taken indomitable pride in our club from that. It was the epitome of the Dyche experience for me. And I am proud of it.

Nothing can beat the defiance of Evertonians when we are at our strongest.