Season › 2024-25 › News Michael Ball: 'Dyche is turning us into Burnley' Lyndon Lloyd 25/11/2024 17comments | Jump to last The ex-Everton full-back pulls no punches in his latest column for the Liverpool Echo: "[This season is] starting to become memorable for all the wrong reasons. The crowd look bored, they look like they’re finding it all tiresome."Brentford had 10 men, but they were more proactive and made a substitution before us and brought a striker on because they could smell blood. They knew if they got an opportunity, and showed a bit of quality, then they could nick it."For Everton, that’s pathetic, that’s abysmal. Sean Dyche’s press conferences, both before and after games, have left me scratching my head in terms of the way he’s been argumentative to reporters but the questions they’re asking are only what everyone else is thinking. "All we do is try and play the long ball, huff and puff, hope for knock downs and if our set-pieces are good, we might nick a goal. "Because we’re Evertonians and we love the club inside out, we turn up at Goodison Park, hoping that we’ll see something different. However, realistically we know it’s the same old stuff, with no surprise element whatsoever.... we’re turning into Burnley, with an attitude of ‘that’s enough,’ but it’s not enough." » Read the full article at Liverpool Echo Reader Comments (17) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Mihir Ambardekar 1 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:06:29 Playing boring football that doesn't enable teams to win, I'm surprised how poor he is as a manager. He is setting up teams to be defensive against average opposition, showing little courage to set his team up to get the best or optimum from the players. Nor he is making effective substitutions that impact the game positively. It's criminal we are not winning games against Fulham, Brentford and Bournemouth. Jim Bennings 2 Posted 25/11/2024 at 19:52:08 The difference is Burnley played two strikers every game.We just twat the ball 90 yards to one striker and don't get bodies around him. Ivan Meer 3 Posted 26/11/2024 at 12:49:55 Burnley's approach was far more dynamic — two strikers always keep the opposition defense on their toes. Ed Prytherch 4 Posted 26/11/2024 at 14:40:34 Michael is on the ball. My only disagreement is that "Dyche is turning us into Burnley" — he has done that already. His next step will be to get us relegated if he is left in charge. Jerome Shields 5 Posted 27/11/2024 at 12:18:22 I thought he already had. Barry Rathbone 6 Posted 27/11/2024 at 13:27:14 Blimey, did Dyche steal his last Rollo? Rob Hooton 7 Posted 27/11/2024 at 13:43:01 Well said, Ball. You never hear Dyche say he wants the players to express themselves or enjoy themselves.It's rigid, boring tripe and he's not shown that he's brave enough to try anything else. We are a chore to watch, but we keep coming back hoping for more. Rennie Smith 8 Posted 27/11/2024 at 13:45:59 Bally is spot on for me. I said before the weekend the journos could cut and paste any previous match report because we all know what's going to happen. We all know what the play will be like, what the subs will be like, what the crowd will be like. Eat, sleep, shite, repeat... Fred Quick 9 Posted 27/11/2024 at 14:31:21 Some believe that Sean Dyche has lost interest, due to his Everton contract coming to an end in June next year, but the potted history of Burnley's 2021-22 season, on the UpTheClarets fan site would suggest that might not be the case at all. Everton at Goodison next and another defeat from another game in which we should have got something. We went in front too but then somehow managed to concede three goals in a six minute spell from which there was no return.The big news coming out of Turf Moor in the following week was of Sean Dyche signing a new contract that would see him remain at Burnley until the end of the 2024/25 season. “We are huge fans of what Sean Dyche has achieved at this club,” chairman Alan Pace said. “It was important for everyone to get this deal over the line and look towards the club's future starting with this current Premier League season. I look forward to working closely with Sean and his team over the coming seasons as we seek to raise the bar and build on the solid foundations that have been laid over the past nine years.”Later in the season:Everton, who had cried off on Boxing Day, were next and they were finding themselves in trouble too. We led 1-0, fell behind to two soft penalties, but then, in a storming second half, won the game 3-2. Collins, who had done well since replacing Mee, scored his first goal, Jay Rod got the second and Cornet, who hadn't scored since the game at Leeds, netted the winner.We were only a point behind Everton now. They had Manchester United at the weekend and we had Norwich. This was, everyone thought, a real opportunity for us. Everton beat United and we lost at Norwich in a performance best described as feeble.As shocking a performance as it was, no one could have expected the news that came five days later on Good Friday. Dyche was sacked alongside Ian Woan, Steve Stone and Billy Mercer. We had eight games remaining with Alan Pace reportedly set to bring in an interim manager. Until then, it was Michael Jackson, the club's interim under-23 coach, in charge with Paul Jenkins, the academy director, Mee, the club captain, and Connor King who is the transition goalkeeping coach. That was to be the set up for all of the remaining eight games.Highlights of the season? There haven't been too many but I suspect most would point to the last few minutes at Watford alongside that home win against Everton. Lowlights? Too many of them but I still shudder at the defeats at Newcastle, Leeds and Norwich.A season to forget Martin Mason 10 Posted 27/11/2024 at 14:53:06 We knew exactly what Dyche was, total mediocrity by any standard, and yet still took him on. Colin Crooks 11 Posted 28/11/2024 at 08:40:37 He certainly knows which way the wind is blowing does our Michael.The "Turning us into Burnley" accusation has been levelled at Dyche by a fair percentage of fans in and around Goodison since he got here. There are 2-3 lads (from that area) who have been posting the same thing on here all season. Once this jibe started to gather legs it was only a matter of time before it found it's way into one of Bally's articles.Nice work if you can get it, but hardly revelatory.Never seen Dyche on matchday (cept in his technical area) but see Michael nearly every game. Would love to be there if they ever meet face to face. There is clearly no love lost between them. Justin Doone 12 Posted 29/11/2024 at 11:43:06 To put a different perspective on this, I think it's clear that Dyche over-achieved with Burnley.He managed to survive and keep them in the Premier League for several seasons despite the lack of funds, ambition shown by the owners and having to sell their best players every season. Despite this, he is generally perceived as a dinosaur of a manager with a one-dimensional playing style from the '80s.Kompany on the other hand stunk the Premier League out with a bigger budget and more ambitious owners. He consistently kept blind faith in trying to play pretty football out from the back and now manages Bayern Munich.I didn't want Dyche but, with the squad and cards dealt, Dyche is doing a decent job.But have a word with the groundsman, our pitch is too nice and giving visiting 'footballing' teams an advantage. Martin Mason 13 Posted 29/11/2024 at 12:21:01 Another possibility is that Burnley would have done better with any other manager – and the same for Everton, Dyche not keeping them up but dragging them down. Sam Hoare 14 Posted 29/11/2024 at 13:43:10 Martin, theres very little evidence for that assertion, or at least the first part. Dyche consistently had Burnley higher in the table than their lowly wage and transfer bill suggested possible. Getting that squad to 7th was very impressive.At Everton its a slightly different story. Our wage/transfer bill probably indicates an expectation of finishing around 15/14th. Last season he bettered that expectation (if you include deductions) but this season he has us performing below expectations and is consequently under pressure. Derek Knox 15 Posted 29/11/2024 at 14:25:35 I can't exactly say I was elated or over the moon, when Dyche was appointed after a long line of managerial disappointments/sackings etc. However, it sort of made sense at the time, and he proved to be the right appointment, when post Lampwick it looked like relegation was a strong possibility. Then again, last season amidst the adversity of points deductions, not once but twice, he somehow got the players to pull off some tremendous results, again resulting in safety for another year.That ' other year ' is now approaching midway, and it doesn't look good with the fixtures already played, and what is to come. I'm afraid Dyche can't just pin hopes, on any sort of repeat escape, especially when the football is saying something entirely different.The take-over dragging on is no help either, and not only puts pressure on Dyche, the team, the fans, and the new owners to prevent the almost unthinkable possibility of relegation. Not a good time to be an Evertonian. Kieran Kinsella 16 Posted 04/12/2024 at 05:24:30 Michael Ball should be sacked for suggesting Dyche is turning us into Burnley. What has he been watching the last two years? Dyche isht turning us into Burnley he has already turned us into Burnley. Get with the programme Bally. Danny O'Neill 17 Posted 04/12/2024 at 05:48:49 Didn't mean to post here. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb