Marco Silva supposedly a candidate to replace Nuno Espirito Santo

Forest sacked Nuno.

Am I right in thinking that the forest owner put the club into a blind trust, to get around European issues, got Palace kicked out of the Europa League, acted like a spoilt brat at the end of last season, humiliated Gibbs-White, and now sacked Nuno.

Who is exactly blind, Uefa or the trust?

Taxi for Nuno. Ridiculous but you have to imagine there's been some shit going on with the owner behind the scenes.

Be interesting who they appoint. I can't imagine they don't have anyone lined up. Maybe Seany Dyche.

The rumour over summer was Postecoglou, Denver. I think they’ll have a few candidates. Possibly good for us as they’re probably our main rivals outside of the rich 7 or 8.

Not quite, Ian. The Forest blind trust was dissolved, and Marinakis restored to control, when there was no longer any danger of his two teams Olympiakos and Forest ending up in the same competition. Olympiakos made the Champions League. Forest got a slot in the Europa League due to the Palace issue.

After tossing away MGW he changed his mind and paid him bigtime. As for Nuno, he and Marinakis simply stopped liking each other. Nuno said just what he needed to say to be sacked -- and get paid for his contract through 2028.

Marinakis is a load to deal with. Pugnacious as hell. Stole our CEO right out from under Friedkin's nose right before she was to be announced. Lot of the Forest fans love the guy.

Interesting to see what happens to Forest from here. Whilst their fans will have been delighted with the progress made under Marinakis, it has not been plain sailing with very heavy spending and points deductions, the shenanigans with Olympiakos, and now the sacking of Nuno (despite doing a good job).

The owner appears to be gambling with the club, spending in the hope of Champions League football. At some point this unravels – as West Ham and Villa are now finding out (and their spending was more measured in any case).

It wouldn't surprise me if Forest end the season with a different manager to the one they appoint now as Nuno's replacement…

Robert, it wouldn't surprise me if Forest were at some point given another hefty points deduction or even demoted. Some of the goings on at that club appear highly dubious.

Good for us if that happens Ray. Our rightful / natural place in the short to medium term under sensible owners is alongside Spurs, Newcastle and Villa - putting pressure on the more established players of Arsenal, Chelsea, the RS, City and United.

We're a window or two off that now - but it should mean Champions League runs in better seasons, Europe most seasons and regular cup trophy contention too.

Getting rid of upstarts like Forest helps to speed up the transition back to the upper echelons!

Got to object to the use of 'upstarts', Robert, as I think every club deserves their place in the sun (RS excepted of course), however fleeting it may turn out to be.

Remember, we are largely considered by the corrupt authorities and their favourites as being upstarts.

The expectations last season before a ball was kicked were Forest may struggle, but unbelievably Nuno produces a miracle of a season and, within weeks of the start of a new season, he is gone. I would imagine any serious manager already employed in the Premier League would have serious misgivings about going there.

Seems the bookies favourite is Postecoglou and Mourhino as another possible candidate. I can't see the Forest fans being happy with a change of manager, and wonder if there will be a kick back from them.

Well, I think the smart money would be on Ange Postecoglou.

Widely being reported as being the most likely replacement.

Eric, think that was tongue in cheek from Robert. Soon we will be upstarts!

I'm expecting us to be part of the establishment soon enough.

It's our rightful place under proper owners.

Brian (5),

Looks like you are correct with some reports saying Postecoglu will be appointed today.

Dave,

Apparently Postecoglu is at the Forest training ground so I would imagine sometime this afternoon he will be officially appointed.

Postecoglu has been appointed the new Manager.

Nuno must be as sick as the proverbial parrot.

Jack, I imagine Nuno will be disappointed but also pleased he's escaped the madhouse. He won't be short of job offers...

It's just picking the one with a stable owner and board.

Totally polar opposite styles of football, from what I know of the managers.

Nuno liked to sit back, soak pressure, and explode on the counter-attack. Didn't care about possession of the ball.

Ange likes to get his defence extremely high up and play in the opposition's half, press high and force turnovers.

This could be a catastrophe for Forest if players don't adapt quickly or they simply don't have the players capable to pull it off.

Spurs seemed to struggle even more whenever their quickest defenders was missing.

Not sure of Forest's overall pace in the back line to play Angeball…

Postecoglu, 2-year deal supposedly, his Greek hereditary probably helped.

I don't like the owner, a Greek bully, as we saw when he confronted Nuno last season. He also got his say in with Uefa over Palace, which didn't go down well with the Palace fans. I hope it backfires on him this season.

It's all Greek to me...

So the manager who got Forest to 7th place last season is replaced by one who got Spurs to 17th!?! Welcome to the crazy world of football management.

This is what happens when you have an overbearing billionaire owner who really wants to manage the team himself but doesn't have the qualifications.

Postecoglou replaces Nuno as Forest manager.

Is he any better than Nuno? I doubt it. Nuno was sacked plainly because the owner didn't like him.

Seems it doesn't matter how much you fuck up in football, the merry-go-round is all-inclusive. even to failures. I wonder if they all have the same agent?

Nuno just recently signed a 3-year extension on his contract. He'll be collecting some fat checks from Marinakis to ease any ill feelings he may have.

In fact, Ange's shiny new contract runs shorter than Nuno's... 2 years versus 3.

I think this is good for us. This is a mess for Forest - and Forest have the best squad outside of the big(-ish) 7.

It looks like Forest are bringing in a man who can win a Europa League trophy but wobbles in the League. Let him wobble – especially with a squad designed for a Nuno defence and counter attack – rather than a Postecoglou no defence and possession game.

Our chances of finishing 7th or 8th have just improved.

Agreed Robert.

A meddling owner and a gung-ho manager give us a better chance of finishing above them despite the vast fortune spent on players and the risk of PSR although, having made an example of us, Masters seems to have retreated his dictatorship approach.

I expected to see Forest start to struggle a bit more when their European campaign kicks in and when they lose quite a few players to Afcon but I think this just might amplify that struggle a little bit more.

It's definitely a backward step, and they got what the owner deserves.

But I think him bringing in Edu left Nuno completely on the outside, he even said he'd no input in transfers.

Unangelic got Spurs to win the devalued Europa League last season. Remember we went out to Forientina in the Europa League on penalties who found themselves demoted from the Champions League for finishing third in their group.

So we went out to a team rated between 17 and 24 in European pecking order while Spurs played in a tournament where the highest rating would have been at 37 to 72.

I wonder if Postecoglu will continue his record of winning a trophy by the end of year two or sooner even !

Frank #20. Re your last paragraph; you mean like Everton half a dozen years ago?

Frank #20. Re your last paragraph; you mean like Everton half a dozen years ago?

Can't agree more with Robert T.: the more Forest is to be imploded and struggled, the more we will benefit.

Another potential concern for Forest is that Anthony Elanga, almost an indispensible part of the Nuno Counter-Attacking Machine last season, is now a Barcode in the North East. Ange would love to still have him in the squad as a Poor Man, but younger, version of Son Hueung-Min.

Mmm! ANGE and evANGElos! I wonder how long this will last. Two strong personalities again!

And, just desserts to any of the quality players that chose Forest over us in the summer transfer window!

MK - I wish the Benitez error was forgettable - still gives me sleepless nights

Eric #8, most neutral fans seem to regard us as the turd that won't flush.

Nuno to Man United before Christmas anyone?

Jeff #35, more chance of Nuno ending up at Everton as Moyes answers the call from up the East Lancs Road mumbling something about "unfinished business".

I'll take a fiver on Nuno to OT. Their fans are no longer amorous towards Amorim.

Jeff @ 35; there's no vacancy as yet, but there probably will be one, just not sure if Nuno is the guy to fill it...or Silva.
Of the usual suspects I'd like to see Big Ange there.

Hopefully the Untd situation will get a lot worse before it gets better. They need a total reset, the Ratcliffe attempt is not doing to well right now.

I must be one of the few people who is going to wish Forest’s, new manager, loads of luck.

Spurs had more injuries than anyone last season, and because of this they had a terrible season in the league. The manager was under pressure, even ridiculed in some quarters, and it looked like the media, were waiting for him to fall flat on his outrageous claim, that he always won a trophy in his second season.

Spurs, hadn’t won a trophy for years, so he must have given some of their supporters, one of the best nights in their lives, whilst also guaranteeing them a champions league place.

Trevor@27 made me smile, because although he has educated me and made me realise that the Europa league, has now become a competition, that has become easier to win, but if he was highlighting it to show us how unlucky Everton and Moyes, both were all those years ago, my own thoughts are that if David, would have had the inner belief and confidence of Forest’s new manager, then he would have surely won a few trophies by now?

Please don’t take this as me being an hater who wants to constantly criticise David Moyes, but look at things logically and pray that our manager has changed

If Moyes had Pistecoglou’s false confidence he’d be as likely to have more relegations than trophies.

I also doubt Nuno for Utd. That would be a Hodgson to Liverpool type move. Man Utd need a big club manager. Nuno failed at Spurs. Man Utd need someone with a big enough presence to sort out a mess - or hire an Arteta type and show patience until the team has been developed. Amorim could be an Arteta but I think he’s lost his shit to be honest and his tactics / formations are weird

Robert, I agree that Nuno wouldn't be the right fit for Man Utd, but I wouldn’t go as far as saying he failed at Spurs. If anything, Spurs failed him just as much. He probably wasn’t the ideal appointment to begin with, and once in the job, he was never really given a proper chance.

That’s fair Ian. And he’d get the same experience at Man Utd tbh.

Enjoyable that Man Utd are still in disarray but probably won’t last.

Robert (42) I’m glad United were not in disarray under Fergie they kept Liverpool from winning a few titles—— which kept us happy and Kopites tearing their hair out!

United will fire Amorin. They won't have the patience to oversee the overhaul needed.

Really difficult situation. Paying big wages, no champions league and making big losses in the transfer market that's only being covered by selling home produced players.

It is now or never for united to turn it around. In one or two years time there will be a host of players to replace, no home players to sell and fans looking at Liverpool picking up trophies in a stadium past its best. A lot of this sounds familiar.

Ian # 44, you are right. But their situation is also solved by hiring a 4231 manager to make best use of Fernandes and their strong attacking trio of Cunha, Mbeumo and Sesko. That could be Iraola or Silva or even McKenna of Ipswich. However, these would need big balls to handle it. Not sure there’s an obvious established candidate. Possibly (almost laughably) Brendan Rodgers or maybe the guy from Stuttgart.

Postecoglou gives terrible interviews, its to be hoped he comes across better to his players.

I dont think he will last long there either.

That made me smile Robert@40, because although I’m aware that a trophy, is a trophy, David hasn’t won many in his long career.

I suppose he still wins 3-1, with his old third division title, plus a charity shield and a conference cup, against only one relegation, though.

Seriously I hope Moyes delivers for Everton, because with every single Evertonian, desperate for success, then both the noise and the scenes, will be off the scale🤞

Reading this thread and people’s opinions on Manchester United, makes me think about when Moshiri, purchased Everton, and Kenwright remained, just like The Glazier’s have remained, even though Ratcliffe, is now involved.

Amorim will be under severe pressure if they lose to City this weekend, but I think Utd are wirse than ever under his reign, he won't change from a back five, and Casemiro and Fernandes are back together in midfield which never worked, and how Mainoo can't get a game is crazy.

Tony I know Postecoglu lost his centre-backs, but they were in total free fall, and they were steeped it was Utd they met in the final, one manager was worse than the other.